Insulation retrofitters push 'green' ...

Insulation retrofitters push 'green' alternative

There are 22 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Jan 13, 2008, titled Insulation retrofitters push 'green' alternative. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

Many companies are jumping on the "green" bandwagon. A closer look * Who: FoamXperts, 10087 Allisonville Road, Suite C, Fishers.

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hhh

Indianapolis, IN

#1 Jan 14, 2008
BEING GREEN---------this is not a new trend, just another political power ploy to make you feel better>
Mikey

United States

#2 Jan 14, 2008
Boy, where did this self-promoting ad come from? Come on Indy Star, there must be some actual news to write about today somewhere, anywhere.
ignoroids

United States

#3 Jan 14, 2008
the two nitwits above skipped school today. Hey, kids, your mama is calling you.

Anyway... this and the recycling story demonstrate how new jobs are created and the local economy boosted by green businesses. I hope a lot of homebuilders pick up on this insulation product. I'll certainly look at it next time I do a project. Brrr, I hate fiberglass!
Stevie

Indianapolis, IN

#4 Jan 14, 2008
ignoroids wrote:
the two nitwits above skipped school today. Hey, kids, your mama is calling you.
Anyway... this and the recycling story demonstrate how new jobs are created and the local economy boosted by green businesses. I hope a lot of homebuilders pick up on this insulation product. I'll certainly look at it next time I do a project. Brrr, I hate fiberglass!
Foam insulation ain't new! It's been around since at least the 70's. It ain't that good! Does it make you feel warm & creamy whenever they use the term "green" ? I personally find it silly and insulting. Brrr, I hate pompous assses!
Green

United States

#5 Jan 14, 2008
Hey Stevie,

Where do you get your info? Foam insulation has a higher R factor per inch than fiberglass and it seals air infiltration better also. The downside has typically been the formaldehyde and the foaming agent.

There has also been a problem with foam being flammable.

If they have a product that answers those problems while maintaining the good aspects of foam, that's news.
Levi

Indianapolis, IN

#6 Jan 14, 2008
When are we going to get in our area the recycled blue jeans insulation?
Brad

United States

#7 Jan 14, 2008
A friend of ours was in the foam insulation business a number of years back. Another friend of ours decided to have him insulate the sidewalls of his older house. He continuely kept saying how much more foam he was using than they normally apply. A few months later I was asked to help the homeowner do some re-modeling, which also involved removing the drywall to one of the exterior, recently foam insulated walls. We were both amazed at how none of the wall cavities were completely filled, and the number of gaps and holes were actually not filled. The homeowner stated that if this was a really overdone foam job, he felt sorry for those who got the "regular" amount. The product is not that good or thorough, and I thought had gone the way of other scam type products. I guess it's back now, being sold for it's "green" value. The only "green" value is your money (green), going to the foam salesman.

Since: Mar 07

Indianapolis, IN

#9 Jan 15, 2008
Brad wrote:
A friend of ours was in the foam insulation business a number of years back. Another friend of ours decided to have him insulate the sidewalls of his older house. He continuely kept saying how much more foam he was using than they normally apply. A few months later I was asked to help the homeowner do some re-modeling, which also involved removing the drywall to one of the exterior, recently foam insulated walls. We were both amazed at how none of the wall cavities were completely filled, and the number of gaps and holes were actually not filled. The homeowner stated that if this was a really overdone foam job, he felt sorry for those who got the "regular" amount. The product is not that good or thorough, and I thought had gone the way of other scam type products. I guess it's back now, being sold for it's "green" value. The only "green" value is your money (green), going to the foam salesman.
These liquid foam products often leave voids when they are "poured" into a cavity. But the only way to use batt insulation in an existing building is to tear out the drywall. Foam can do a good job of reducing energy loss, which is a good thing. The best scenario is if the product can be applied to a new home before the drywall goes up or if the existing house can be gutted. Either way the product is far superior to fiberglass. By the way, fiberglass is a carcinogenic, so that is one more thing in foams' favor.
FoamXperts

Indianapolis, IN

#10 Jan 17, 2008
Levi wrote:
When are we going to get in our area the recycled blue jeans insulation?
We have it now!
Jack

Indianapolis, IN

#11 Jan 17, 2008
Technology is a great thing, old or new! You should do your homework before you make statements like you have. What a know-it all. You are probably the idiot that has been paying a $600 a month gas bill. I cut my gas bill in half when I had this installed.
FoamXperts

Indianapolis, IN

#12 Jan 17, 2008
Green wrote:
Hey Stevie,
Where do you get your info? Foam insulation has a higher R factor per inch than fiberglass and it seals air infiltration better also. The downside has typically been the formaldehyde and the foaming agent.
There has also been a problem with foam being flammable.
If they have a product that answers those problems while maintaining the good aspects of foam, that's news.
Green, Thanks for setting Stevie straight! We do offer a wall insulation product that has NO formaldehyde in it and we use a nontoxic, water- based foaming agent. Additionally, Tripolymer has a 2 Hour burn rating! No other insulation product even comes close to that.
FoamXperts

Indianapolis, IN

#13 Jan 17, 2008
Here is a short, third party video presentation of foam insulation products, showcasing the benefits and drawbacks. Go to:

www.onnetworks.com/video/mainstream-green/ins...

Since: Mar 07

United States

#14 Jan 17, 2008
FoamXperts wrote:
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Green, Thanks for setting Stevie straight! We do offer a wall insulation product that has NO formaldehyde in it and we use a nontoxic, water- based foaming agent. Additionally, Tripolymer has a 2 Hour burn rating! No other insulation product even comes close to that.
Except perilte and vermiculite. Be careful with those bold statements.
FoamXperts

Indianapolis, IN

#15 Jan 18, 2008
That's correct, IndyDevil. I was thinking "foam" insulation when I typed that comment, but did not say it specifically. I apologize for that oversight - it was not my intention to make too bold a statement. I never wished to mislead or confuse anyone. Our foam insulation product has a far superior burn rating when compared to other foam insulations. It also has a far superior insulating ability when compared to most any other insulation.

Since: Mar 07

United States

#16 Jan 18, 2008
FoamXperts wrote:
That's correct, IndyDevil. I was thinking "foam" insulation when I typed that comment, but did not say it specifically. I apologize for that oversight - it was not my intention to make too bold a statement. I never wished to mislead or confuse anyone. Our foam insulation product has a far superior burn rating when compared to other foam insulations. It also has a far superior insulating ability when compared to most any other insulation.
Apology accepted. Have you explored the use of your product in a core-fill application? I would be interested to see how your product compares to other materials.
FakeFoam Ripoff Xperts

Chicago, IL

#17 Mar 15, 2008
Foam xperts is a joke Period. This man hired me in december of 07, told me there was a company truck, No, I had to drive to almost every jobsite from fortville to mooresville. The hole time i was there we were using product that comes in 55gal drums. The product is only good for a certain anmount of time. dufis deff installed old foam in customers walls, it dosent go around everything, and when the water dries out of it. The foam shrinks considerable, plattipus boy is a slob and a horrible to do bussniss with. Can i get that check early. what a moron.

The only reason it looks like that in the video is cause they can see what there doing, however you can't when filling real walls, he also tried to fill brick houses haha, we blem out more walls than foam we put in. 150-200psi in hose 1/2big, whats going to happen. duhh, bryan never paid me right either, he must need to invest in a calulater and mabey a money now loan, cause he's brokedown and so is his company, has to borrow money off his hole family. Like others have said this is just not me, this is a SCAM. If you are thinking about putting foam xperts in your house i strongly hope you find another option.
J jackson

Indianapolis, IN

#18 Jun 21, 2008
I don't know what the guy above is talking about. I had the put in my house and it has saved me about $180.00a month from December - March. Mr. Kuhn knows how to save people money. Keep up the good work!

J. Jackson
SarahP

Indianapolis, IN

#19 Jun 21, 2008
Hey FakeFoam Ripoff...

Why is it that you are bad mouthing this company? Is it that you got fired? Sounds like it to me.

Grow up and have a little self respect.
Disgruntled Customer

Rushville, IN

#20 Oct 12, 2008
This past winter we decided to use this company to insulate our farm house. The company said it would be no problem to blow the insulation into cavities with existing insulation in them. After a couple weeks of a slow working crew, we ripped the plaster off of a wall to examine if the job that they were doing was up to par. Turns out the insulation didn't fill all the cavities. There were gaps and lines trough the walls that air and leaks would easily penetrate. As so, we fired the company on the spot. After the fact we called the manufacturer of the foam and asked about the insulation process. They said under no circumstance should the foam be put into walls with existing insulation. The company doesn't follow product standards and uses bad company practices. A year later we re-examined the foam in our walls. As said above by another blogger, the foam has shrank in our crawl space walls. We had clear plastic put up on the studs and the foam blown into the crevices. The foam on these walls had nearly shrank 12 inches from the top of the wall. DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY!!!! YOU WILL NOT GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!!!
Disgruntled Customer

Rushville, IN

#21 Oct 12, 2008
This past winter we decided to use this company to insulate our farm house. The company said it would be no problem to blow the insulation into cavities with existing insulation in them. After a couple weeks of a slow working crew, we ripped the plaster off of a wall to examine if the job that they were doing was up to par. Turns out the insulation didn't fill all the cavities. There were gaps and lines trough the walls that air and leaks would easily penetrate. As so, we fired the company on the spot. After the fact we called the manufacturer of the foam and asked about the insulation process. They said under no circumstance should the foam be put into walls with existing insulation. The company doesn't follow product standards and uses bad company practices. A year later we re-examined the foam in our walls. As said above by another blogger, the foam has shrank in our crawl space walls. We had clear plastic put up on the studs and the foam blown into the crevices. The foam on these walls had nearly shrank 12 inches from the top of the wall. DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY!!!! YOU WILL NOT GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!!!

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