Fatal blaze was arson-homicide, offic...

Fatal blaze was arson-homicide, officials rule

There are 44 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Apr 4, 2007, titled Fatal blaze was arson-homicide, officials rule. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

A fatal fire Tuesday on the Northeastside was an arson-homicide, Indianapolis metropolitan police said Wednesday.

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mykidzmom

Greenfield, IN

#1 Apr 5, 2007
HOW HORRIBLE.PEOPLE ARE EVIL.
perry twnshp

United States

#2 Apr 5, 2007
Something is up with this. Why did the family hire an attorney so quickly?
Duh

Bridgeport, WV

#3 Apr 5, 2007
perry twnshp wrote:
Something is up with this. Why did the family hire an attorney so quickly?
Gee, could it be they're suspected of arson???
Erika

Indianapolis, IN

#4 Apr 5, 2007
perry twnshp wrote:
Something is up with this. Why did the family hire an attorney so quickly?
They probably hired an attorney because the police were hounding the wife and she didn't know what else to do. HE went back in the house for the phone... she didn't make him? HE woke her up and got her out of the house. If anything, someone he upset in the past did this heinous crime. Scary how people don't care about a human life...

Since: Feb 07

On your PC screen

#5 Apr 5, 2007
perry twnshp wrote:
Something is up with this. Why did the family hire an attorney so quickly?
I assume because she is the only one that "witnessed" his exit and re-entry to the home. The spouse more than not is the first suspect. There may be more to the story than being told. I'm sure there are details that are not being released. The lawyer hiring to me if in this situation is understandable in this day and time.
Common Sense

Indianapolis, IN

#6 Apr 5, 2007
Erika wrote:
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They probably hired an attorney because the police were hounding the wife and she didn't know what else to do. HE went back in the house for the phone... she didn't make him? HE woke her up and got her out of the house. If anything, someone he upset in the past did this heinous crime. Scary how people don't care about a human life...
According to the other story I read, she is the only one that has said that HE went back in the house. They have no witnesses that ever saw him come outside. I am sure that they are now looking for the drugs in his system or the bump on the head. She is obviously a "person of interest" and an attorney is necessary.
Backdraft

United States

#7 Apr 5, 2007
The wife seems fishy. She had burns to her hands, and they found accelerant burns on the stairs? How did they exit the house together and get down the stairs if they were on fire? Did anyone see the husband outside of the house except for the wife?
Elaine

Indianapolis, IN

#8 Apr 5, 2007
This is unbelievable!!! Dave Kirch was loved by all who knew him. He was such a witty and lovable guy. And Gwen is such a gracious and loving person.
Duh

Bridgeport, WV

#9 Apr 5, 2007
Common Sense wrote:
<quoted text>According to the other story I read, she is the only one that has said that HE went back in the house. They have no witnesses that ever saw him come outside. I am sure that they are now looking for the drugs in his system or the bump on the head. She is obviously a "person of interest" and an attorney is necessary.
If she did do it, she wasn't very bright. Accellerants are easy for police to detect, and why would you want to set your own house on fire? Maybe someone connected to his home business did it. Either way, she needs an attorney.

MDB

“Only time will tell”

Since: Mar 07

Crawfordville, FL

#10 Apr 5, 2007
Common Sense wrote:
<quoted text>According to the other story I read, she is the only one that has said that HE went back in the house. They have no witnesses that ever saw him come outside. I am sure that they are now looking for the drugs in his system or the bump on the head. She is obviously a "person of interest" and an attorney is necessary.
That's what I thought also. Why would he go back in for a phone twice instead of going to a neighbors to call 911?
Casandra

Carmel, IN

#11 Apr 5, 2007
How can this be called a homicide it he re-entered the house after the fire had started? It appears if he didn't re-enter, this would have been just an arson.
Mr Obvious

AOL

#12 Apr 5, 2007
Something is real fishy with the whole story about him going back in to the house to get a phone and then discovered it's dead. How did she know that? What did he do run back out and discover the phone wouldn't work and then run in again? Why not run to a neighbors house and beat on the door? Nobody other than the wife saw him outside.... I bet she offed him and did a poor job of hiding it.
skeptical

Indianapolis, IN

#13 Apr 5, 2007
I think the wife did it. If no one else witnessed the man come outside, he probably never came out. Why would he go back in a burning house to call 911? I think he was a smarter man than that. The cordless on the first floor doesn't work, so he goes upstairs to find the cell? She should have stopped him from going back in if that's what really happened. Why not go to a neighbor? Several neighbors called 911 anyway. This is her story and she's sticking to it. But I'm not buying it.(Just one man's opinion)
Common Sense

Indianapolis, IN

#14 Apr 5, 2007
Duh wrote:
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If she did do it, she wasn't very bright. Accellerants are easy for police to detect, and why would you want to set your own house on fire? Maybe someone connected to his home business did it. Either way, she needs an attorney.
Exactly, and the police are always going to look at the spouse, followed by the rest of the family, first.
concerned friend

Lebanon, IN

#15 Apr 5, 2007
How incredibly sad that a spouse is being interrogated about this situation. I know this woman personally and she is an extraordinary upstanding woman who is being scared to death by all this. How horrible it is to grieve your husband's death with police breathing down your neck. Im sure she was instructed to hire an attorney by law enforcement so they do not rairoad her for something she did not do!!!! Its funny how people are so quick to assume the worst in a person. How about innocent until proven guilty??? Our society is truly sad.
Casandra

Carmel, IN

#16 Apr 5, 2007
Elaine wrote:
This is unbelievable!!! Dave Kirch was loved by all who knew him. He was such a witty and lovable guy. And Gwen is such a gracious and loving person.
Myself, and a few other co-worker has a boss with this same name. We are trying to figure out if, this Dave worked for AT&T. You sound like someone that would know. Our prayers are with the family , either way.

paisleyposey

“END THE FED!”

Since: Feb 07

DON'T TREAD ON ME!!!!

#17 Apr 5, 2007
Hard to fathom, being married so long and having such good reputations, that she could've done this. In light of the fact that they've hired and atty., and the police say they've ruled no one out yet, I'd be quicker to look at the sons, and where they were before I looked at her. I hope none of them were involved. I can't even begin to imagine going back into a mostly burning house after a cell phone, though. Doesn't add up.
Duh

Bridgeport, WV

#18 Apr 5, 2007
concerned friend wrote:
How incredibly sad that a spouse is being interrogated about this situation. I know this woman personally and she is an extraordinary upstanding woman who is being scared to death by all this. How horrible it is to grieve your husband's death with police breathing down your neck. Im sure she was instructed to hire an attorney by law enforcement so they do not rairoad her for something she did not do!!!! Its funny how people are so quick to assume the worst in a person. How about innocent until proven guilty??? Our society is truly sad.
It's part of the process, and she IS the last person to see him alive, and the only person to say he went back into the house. Cops are just doing their job, but yes, if she's innocent, this must be very hard. I hope she is.
james schmid

Terre Haute, IN

#19 Apr 5, 2007
Erika wrote:
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They probably hired an attorney because the police were hounding the wife and she didn't know what else to do. HE went back in the house for the phone... she didn't make him? HE woke her up and got her out of the house. If anything, someone he upset in the past did this heinous crime. Scary how people don't care about a human life...
YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, IT WAS ON HER SAY SO, THAT HE WOKE HER UP, WE WILL NEVER KNOW, BECAUSE HE DIED INSIDE.
Common Sense

Indianapolis, IN

#20 Apr 5, 2007
Casandra wrote:
How can this be called a homicide it he re-entered the house after the fire had started? It appears if he didn't re-enter, this would have been just an arson.
But, he supposedly did re-enter. Therefore, if you set a fire and someone dies, it is considered a homicide.

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