Immigration bill draws heated House d...

Immigration bill draws heated House debate

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CR Eastes

United States

#1 Feb 14, 2008
"He would also like to raise the threshold, in effect only prosecuting companies that hire 50 or more illegal workers, rather than just a handful".

Well then doesn't that mean that I can murder, or rape 1-2 children and get a miniscule fine but cannot be punished for those 1-2 until I murder or rape 50 or more -? Putting a threshold on a limit of being wrong certainly doesn't mean it's right. You are only right back where you were in the beginning. Accomplishing nothing -!

Observer

Cincinnati, OH

#2 Feb 14, 2008
I watched the whole thing and thios is a misrepresentation, hardly anyone excepting the one kook mentioned mentioned anything racial, the only applause was for the bill 335. The same kook also asked the Senator if he had bothered checking with the mexican consulate before drafting the bill, need I say more? This story, once again, mischaracterizes the warm supportive welcome of the Bill and portrays a very small fringe element there that had no saupport in attendance. Shame on Star, do not buy it folks!
Jenny

Cincinnati, OH

#3 Feb 14, 2008
I thought it was funny how the nutcase from the illegal chamber of coommerce tried to make everyone there feel like we should feel horrible if a crimnal gets arrested, what about the kids at home? I do not know, what happens to anyone who breaks the law with kids at home? The fact thatthey are here illegally should get them less sympathy than Americans who violate the law and have kids at home. This thing about race is a rope a dope distraction from the issue!
George

Cincinnati, OH

#4 Feb 14, 2008
Observer wrote:
I watched the whole thing and thios is a misrepresentation, hardly anyone excepting the one kook mentioned mentioned anything racial, the only applause was for the bill 335. The same kook also asked the Senator if he had bothered checking with the mexican consulate before drafting the bill, need I say more? This story, once again, mischaracterizes the warm supportive welcome of the Bill and portrays a very small fringe element there that had no saupport in attendance. Shame on Star, do not buy it folks!
They always do that, there is one person at a meeting speaking for something stupid and they only put the camera on him when the other 99.9% has been on the main issue.No one believes that illegal aliens do anything but take, take , take and demand more. I tell my kids how important education is because if you have no education, you have noting to contribute, illegals on average have a 5th grade education. We need the jobs back because we are losing more and more and they must keep the jobs for those who can legally work them!
CR Eastes

United States

#5 Feb 14, 2008
These people still don't have a clue as to the damage these companies are doing with their magnet approach of hiring people from another country who have already broken our Federal Laws in entering the U.S. It remains an issue of MONEY to be made and not what's right or wrong or the welfare and safety of the citizens -! "Such Narrow Minded and Inconsiderate People" -!

The "Big Problem Predicted" should be obvious:
It will turn off this magnet of Illegal Aliens flooding the U.S. by companies hiring anyone of Illegal status. This will have no effect on Legal Immigrants who follow the rules.
Roberta

Cincinnati, OH

#6 Feb 14, 2008
The illegal aliens have just as much right to US jobs as citizens do. After all this is the land land and really everything here technically belongs to Mexico anyhow. The US has no right keeping undocumnted from geting free health care. It is the least they can do for them.
Great Country

Kariya, Japan

#7 Feb 14, 2008
Roberta wrote:
The illegal aliens have just as much right to US jobs as citizens do. After all this is the land land and really everything here technically belongs to Mexico anyhow. The US has no right keeping undocumnted from geting free health care. It is the least they can do for them.
You are up very late and obviously you are stirring the pot or totally, totally ignorant.

I am happy that you have the money to give everyone free stuff. Maybe in your world it is 72 degrees and sunny.

Please lie down with a cold washcloth on your forhead, you will feel better soon.

“oneoldvet.com”

Since: Jan 07

Indianapolis

#8 Feb 14, 2008
I can't begin to tell you how shocked I was to see District 99 representative Vanessa Summers as she entered the hearing late, waddled to her seat, clutching a bag of McDonalds breakfast sandwiches and a large drink.

Rep. Vaness Summers is absolutely one of the most ignorant, rudest and unprofessional political hacks I have even seen.

She interrupted the ugly shoving of breakfast sandwiches into her mouth only long enough to ask Senator Delph why he didn't consult the Mexican Consulate before he brought SB 335 to the House.
To Delph's credit he responded by saying he didn't work for the Mexican government and only answered to the American Citizens in his district.

The gallery broke out into huge applause at his response.

I also watched as Mary Jane Gonzales of the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce and
Marco Dominguez of Univsion fed her questions to grill Delph on.

It was obvious that Summers is in the hip pocket of those of those advocate on behalf of ILLEGAL aliens instead of representing the interests of Hoosiers.

District 99, you must be very proud of your representative.

But after watching the self-serving performance of the lobbyist from the Chamber of Commerce, the priest from Notre Dame, immigration lawyers, self-described "business men", it was obvious that Rep. Vanessa Summers wasn't the only person prostituting herself.
interested citizen

United States

#9 Feb 14, 2008
They have broken the law. Father, if you are concerned about their children going hungry, perhaps, since your church is one of the wealthy's institutions in the world you could go down to Mexico and create jobs and health care for them so we taxpayers , after paying our taxes, would have the money to feed our children. How many of ur jobs have been moved to Mexico?
Maya

Cincinnati, OH

#10 Feb 14, 2008
I agree that race is a "rope a dope". Most of the illegals aren't colored and don't get along with Americans of color, I know.
HM Smith

Bedford, MA

#11 Feb 14, 2008
Send them packing with all employer's who hire them. What part of illegal don't you under stand? This is against the law and should be stopped. Your so called cheap labor is destroying the American way of life.

NOTE: THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE!
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HM Smith

Bedford, MA

#12 Feb 14, 2008
Roberta wrote:
The illegal aliens have just as much right to US jobs as citizens do. After all this is the land land and really everything here technically belongs to Mexico anyhow. The US has no right keeping undocumnted from geting free health care. It is the least they can do for them.
YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS. BUT WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO SEND THEM BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM. IF YOUR PEOPLE ARE HARD WORKERS WHY IS YOUR COUNTRY A PIT OF TRASH. TAKE YOUR HARD WORKERS HOME AND CLEAN IT UP AND STAY THERE. DO'NT BRING YOUR PROBLEMS TO US!
bruce

AOL

#13 Feb 14, 2008
folks this is just window dressing...these hearings will accomplish nothing more than free political advertising for the reps involved...as long as the federal government allows the wholesale invasion of our borders by people from the south...the states are stuck with the fall-out.we,as voters can change this by removing the people from office that fail to honor the majority of americans wishes.in our state lots of money is spent showcasing political events that solve no problems and NEVER get enacted into law.
Legal Citizen

Columbus, IN

#14 Feb 14, 2008
To the people that are supporting the illegal aliens that are breaking state and federal laws. If you want them here in Indiana then you foot there medical bills and you start funding our state and federal programs that they are depleting. They are breaking the laws of this country and state and you are assiting them. These jobs were filled with Hoosiers before the Hispanic element arrived and will be after they are gone. With legal citizens of this state that need and deserve thses jobs. I very gald to see this issue of lawlessness being addressed. Go Sen Mike Delph
n m p 1

United States

#15 Feb 14, 2008
Here's how I see it.We are fighting to keep job's in Indaina. Only to be fighting with each other over keeping ILLEGAL'S here.HOW STUPID have we become? Send the LAW BREAKER'S HOME get the lazy'soff their free riding WELFARE BUTT'S and let's move on to something worth fighting over. Like getting rid of our Representative who don't listen to the VOTER"S THEIR BOSS..........
Big O

Fort Wayne, IN

#16 Feb 14, 2008
Be leagle,or be gone,is that so hard to understand ?
doit

Louisville, KY

#17 Feb 14, 2008
Greedy Corporate America needs to start paying fair wages to Americans.
RGW

Redwood City, CA

#18 Feb 14, 2008
I have a friend who works in the construction industry and his take on the illegals certainly sheds some light on the situation. During a conversation we had this week he told me that it is becoming more and more difficult for him to find consistent work. I asked him what is the problem, besides the economy. He informed me that it is difficult to find work because illegals are doing the same job that he does for half the pay or less. He said that more and more Americans, who are very qualified, can't find work because subcontractors, like him, can't stay in business with this kind of unfair economic condition created by illegal aliens.

He went on to say that if the illegals are doing the same work for half the price, then why are the new housing prices not going down? In addition, he said someone is making a lot of money because of the low cost illegal alien workers and it is sure not the consumer nor the subcontrators like him.

Sign the bill and get on with the "legal" business of the State of Indiana.
JanetP

Swansea, SC

#20 Feb 14, 2008
I am so pleased to see the citizens of Indiana responding to this in such forceful voices. I hope it culminates in joining Oklahomans, Georgians, Texans, and the many other who are demanding to take back our country.

Remember always, that the people who are discussing the issue are supposed to representing YOU. Let them know loudly and publicly that you want to end illegal immigration.

SPM

Since: Jan 07

Indianapolis, Indiana

#21 Feb 14, 2008
This should be passed. Only the illegals will have anything to fear. People who are legal and not breaking laws will fined employment others who bring down our society and place a burdon on tax payers will have to move on.

Again the Law is the Law. Illegals (of any race, color, or creed) should not find employment in our state placing a burdon our society.

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