Daniels defends child services reforms

Gov. Mitch Daniels this morning defended reforms he's made to the state Department of Child Services in light of the recent death of 3-year-old TaJanay Bailey. Full Story
cindy

New Albany, IN

#21 Dec 7, 2007
So, we have gone from leaving them alone with their abuser to die
to
watching them die and doing nothing.

How in the world is that better?

Rip two children from the arms of neglectfully stupid parents, but leave a three year old with documented physical abuse to die all the while watching.

What a wonderfully better system we now have in place.

Kudos Daniels, Kudos to you for making sure the system now watches the deaths of children rather than ignoring it all together.
Theo

United States

#22 Dec 7, 2007
Where does the buck stop, Mitch?
Not Surprised

Louisville, KY

#23 Dec 7, 2007
And the political squirming continues... Not so long ago DCS chose to give an infant baby back to a family that has lost their last five children. I'm sure that will go well. The poor judgement that comes out of the child welfare system is staggering. Mitch should just not comment about things he doesn't understand. Of course, that is the problem. These Governors are in charge of managing things they don't know. Perhaps it is child welfare that should be privatized. Where hiring could be done on competance and not political savvy.
Mary

Indianapolis, IN

#24 Dec 7, 2007
COMMON SENSE wrote:
<quoted text>
This little girl died because her mother killed her. Her uncle who is a minister blamed everyone but his niece. I can't understand where this minister was when he was needed. His church could have helped these people, but all they want to do is point the finger after the fact.
DCS still needs work, but all of these people who are taking away blame from the mother and her boy-friend, are simply allowing welfare folks to continue living in the cycle they have been in for years
None of this will change until we demand responsibilty from those the government is helping. Any one who is caught a second time abusing, drugs, the system, their children what ever should be put on probation from the system and must attend classes and get a job etc., before any more money is given.
I really dont care about the money I hear my tax dollars..blahblahblah...but lets get a new stadium and streets...thats more important than a life huh? sadistic people like you are why they feel the system is the only way they can survive. I would gladly give my return if it would bring this girl back to the foster mother who loved her. The pastor is just asshamed that he didnt help and wasnt there...being a man of god, he knows who is to blame...the whole family. One bad apple ruins the whole bunch. This orchard should have been burnt down long ago.
They Are Baby Killers

Indianapolis, IN

#25 Dec 7, 2007
I will not vote again for Mitch. I think this is inexcusable. I think Scott Peterson could do a better job as governor - oh, wait - he's a baby killer too. ER, the dem will win.
Better not enough

Bloomington, IN

#26 Dec 7, 2007
Since when does death still correlate with better? What a joke... let me guess this is "collateral damage" in the "war" to improve the DCS.

My Man b(*)!h.
Curious

Atlanta, IN

#27 Dec 7, 2007
COMMON SENSE wrote:
<quoted text>
This little girl died because her mother killed her. Her uncle who is a minister blamed everyone but his niece. I can't understand where this minister was when he was needed. His church could have helped these people, but all they want to do is point the finger after the fact.
DCS still needs work, but all of these people who are taking away blame from the mother and her boy-friend, are simply allowing welfare folks to continue living in the cycle they have been in for years
None of this will change until we demand responsibilty from those the government is helping. Any one who is caught a second time abusing, drugs, the system, their children what ever should be put on probation from the system and must attend classes and get a job etc., before any more money is given.
Excellent point. There should be a cap on welfare payments. Make these people take classes that offer job skills. Make them show they are attempting to be independent. If they don't follow certain criteria, then their benefits could be stopped. I've seen some of the vehicles that these welfare recipients drive. Sorry, hard to believe you can pay for an Escalade while on TANF.

Taypayers are the ones paying for these worthless people to sit at home on their butts, do drugs, be of no value to society, and then bring children into their already poverty-stricken situation.
Sharon

Indianapolis, IN

#28 Dec 7, 2007
God Help us all. If he feels things are working ok within that system.
Mary

Indianapolis, IN

#29 Dec 7, 2007
Better not enough wrote:
Since when does death still correlate with better? What a joke... let me guess this is "collateral damage" in the "war" to improve the DCS.
My Man b(*)!h.
Thank you...with this acceptable loss bs my bit*h mitch is some bush flunky and needs a reality check!
angry social worker

Indianapolis, IN

#30 Dec 7, 2007
How many times did DCS visit in the home? Home Based is required to visit weekly in the home and make recommendations. Home Based sees the family weekly and is the one who updates DCS on their progress made. If HB made weekly visits and recommended removal, why didn't DCS look into the concerns by visiting at home. DCS is required to see the client each month but does that really happen? I would think not. I have known families that cannot get in contact with their DCS worker and also do not visit in the home. DCS and her supervisor is clearly in the wrong on this case. Why don't DCS worker take more time and put more efforts on their cases.Also that DCS supervisor involved on the case, I have worke with on cases. As a caseworker she was unreliable and at times would neglect the needs of her families. If DCS puts HBC in place then why don't they listen and support recommendations made. They are the ones that see the client weekly not DCS. The systme is clearly messed up and justice needs to be done to the DCS supervisor.

From a HBC
Marie

AOL

#31 Dec 7, 2007
The only thing that is "dramatically better, provably better, recognized nationally now as better" is the blather that hack politicians like Daniels spew out trying to get a few political points out of this horror.

What is so difficult, my man mitch, about saying that obviously something is wrong and you are going to fix it? Would that be so difficult if you were a real man instead of a political man?

NO, NO. That's too difficult. No, for a hack politician like Daniels, this is the time to bray that things are "dramatically better, provably better, recognized nationally now as better."

Shame! Shame! Shame!
AGHAGH

Indianapolis, IN

#33 Dec 7, 2007
Observer wrote:
What about changing department policy so that if there is a split decision among counselors about whether a child should be removed from a home or not, the child is REMOVED pending the dispute hearing? This little girl suffered and died because professionals couldn't agree.
Couldn't agree with you more!
GetheFacts

Muncie, IN

#34 Dec 7, 2007
plh,

I agree with your post for the most part. I have not said much about Trabue because I have already this morning's paper. HOWEVER, there may be reasons that have not been voiced yet and, I too, am waiting to see if she will speak up. What I really think is, she too, was working within the confines of the law. And I ONLY say that because by LAW a child cannot be removed unless there is just cause of imminent danger. Obviously, and at that time, no such cause existed. And I make that statement because the article even stated that the POLICE went to the home, talked with the couple and did NOT report THAT CALL to DCS! I wish the police would explain that one!!! Anyway, I am not so sure that Trabue is at TOTAL fault either. There are rules, regulations and guidelines that even a supervisor must follow. So, before I pass any judgement I would like to know what her reasonings were. And I KNOW what the paper said...but the media has tendency to distort the truth. Anyone and everyone should realize that.

Common Sense,

Thank you for the common sense. I agree! There are requirements that must be met. I think we ALL already know that.

This feeding frenzy needs to stop and the blame needs to be placed where it belongs...on the mom and boyfriend. And as far as that minister goes, he is a mess. Yes, he could have helped and didn't. In my opinion he is just another Jesse Jackson; just talking the talk without really helping his own.
Pam

Indianapolis, IN

#35 Dec 7, 2007
COMMON SENSE wrote:
<quoted text>
This little girl died because her mother killed her. Her uncle who is a minister blamed everyone but his niece. I can't understand where this minister was when he was needed. His church could have helped these people, but all they want to do is point the finger after the fact.
DCS still needs work, but all of these people who are taking away blame from the mother and her boy-friend, are simply allowing welfare folks to continue living in the cycle they have been in for years
None of this will change until we demand responsibilty from those the government is helping. Any one who is caught a second time abusing, drugs, the system, their children what ever should be put on probation from the system and must attend classes and get a job etc., before any more money is given.
Amen!!!!
This is happening all the time. No one is there to help until it's too late, then they start crawling out from under rocks to point fingers & have nite vigils. Your right, were were the grandparents, uncles, aunts, friends & minister while this child was living in hell. The mother & her boyfriend killed this child & need to be held accountable & so does every other single mother that chooses to put her boyfriends before the safety of her children. This is what is happening in our society & it's time that the families & clergy start to address this or we will see more babies die....
Compassionate Mother

Pryor, OK

#36 Dec 7, 2007
It is sad what happened to this child but I totally agree with "Common Sense" the persons responsible for this tragedy is Lawrence Green and Charity Bailey. If Charity was a good mother to her child DCS, Mitch and no one else would be involved and this baby would still be here. Stop putting the blame on this person and that person, the person to blame is the persons who committed this unhumanly murder of a 3 year old child.
DCS

United States

#37 Dec 7, 2007
Nothing is better about your system Mitch! A baby just died due to the "better of your system" That is a horrible thing to admit, you say she was checked on 8 times in the past 3weeks??? Then WHY WASN'T SHE REMOVED FROM THE HOME????? IT IS OBVIOUS SHE WAS BEING ABUSED...If she was checked on like she should of been then someone should of seen these people's living conditions & the abuse that was taking place over the past few weeks. The parents should definitely be held responsible for their actions but same for the case worker that left Tajanay in that hell hole.
david b of Indy

Cincinnati, OH

#38 Dec 7, 2007
its not just here in marion co that the dfc is screwed up its in other counties too....I think they shouls all be fired and new ones hired that care for the children and not the almighty $$$$$ MITCH
Nam Vet

Noblesville, IN

#39 Dec 7, 2007
When counselors pull you aside TWICE, there's yer sign! Wake the he** up! Get a clue, Mitch!
eee

United States

#40 Dec 7, 2007
So none of you have ever made mistakes?? All you over-righteous do-gooders, if only everyone cold be like all you finger-pointing posters.

Since: Feb 07

Indianapolis, IN

#41 Dec 7, 2007
The supervisor is the person at fault. Does she still have ajob? I hope not. How many more times does this supervisor not accept the advise of the counselor and how many more children die because of her. Mitch--you need to get rid of this supervisor!

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Indianapolis Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Meridian and Morris streets 21 min Wood chuck 1
Lashonna Bates, murder victim in Indianapolis (Feb '10) 1 hr damon 35
Where can we go to find a third for the wife an... 2 hr hornedup 1
More lessons for Black people 10 hr Portman 12
Amy Blackford 12 hr Blackford 1
Indy bath houses? Mon Assbandit 4
Lessons For Black People Mar 1 Simon 27

Flood Warning for Marion County was issued at March 03 at 10:59AM EST

Indianapolis Dating
Find my Match
More from around the web

Indianapolis People Search

Addresses and phone numbers for FREE

Personal Finance

Mortgages [ See current mortgage rates ]

NFL Latest News

Updated 3:57 am PST

Bleacher Report 3:57AM
Colts Final Free-Agency Outlook and Predictions
NFL 6:51 AM
Pat McAfee jokingly begins recruiting Ndamukong Suh
Bleacher Report 8:11 AM
Luck Says Goodbye to the Neckbeard
Bleacher Report 8:57 AM
Colts Punter Trying to Recruit Suh
Bleacher Report 9:47 AM
Insider Buzz: Mutual Interest Between Andre Johnson and Indianapolis Colts