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Proud Republican

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Shouldn't you have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check since I have to pass one to earn it for you?

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How can you be soooo mean. I mean only if you work you have to pass a drug test. Some jobs they can call you in anytime to pee in that bottle.
If you are collecting benefits today you don't even have to show up anyplace to renew them. Just a phone call. Now a drug test would be to inconvenient, just like voter ID.
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Shouldn't you have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check since I have to pass one to earn it for you?
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We could cut the number of welfare recipients by more than half, if that were the case.
Problem is, all of a sudden you also cut down on the number of gubment workers needed to staff the welfare program.
So we could NEVER do THAT, could we?
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Nov 8, 2012
 
We could because some of them lack intergrity and morals and shouldn't even be working where they are. If yo sister's friend's mother's uncle Joe needs a hand out, Nevaeh will make sure he gets its one way or another.
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We could cut the number of welfare recipients by more than half, if that were the case.
Problem is, all of a sudden you also cut down on the number of gubment workers needed to staff the welfare program.
So we could NEVER do THAT, could we?
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nuffsaid wrote:
We could cut the number of welfare recipients by more than half, if that were the case.
Problem is, all of a sudden you also cut down on the number of gubment workers needed to staff the welfare program.
So we could NEVER do THAT, could we?
That is not true. Florida did drug testing one year, state wide, and only found 2% couldn't pass the drug test. You'd have thunk it woulda been more, huh? Google it.

These kinds of measures only cost the TAXPAYER MORE $$$$$. Considering they only find 2 out of every 100 recipients, and the kits (walgreens price )$18, that's $1800 wasted to find two drug users.

Stupid.
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Besides, some of the snazziest, most concienscious, intelligent, fast, accurate, considerate, reliable, well-spoken people are drug users.

Myself included.

If you can't tell that I'm high, I WIN!
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OUtbound wrote:
Besides, some of the snazziest, most concienscious, intelligent, fast, accurate, considerate, reliable, well-spoken people are drug users.
Myself included.
If you can't tell that I'm high, I WIN!
High no....stupid, YES...

So basically what you are saying is these "sucessful" people,(including yourself ?) are only capable of "operating" in an drug induced state...I hope too hell you aren't a surgeon...pilot would be fine since most of the time they are high...off the ground that is.
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Why, that would make me an addict, wouldn't it?

Clue: pot makes you high for two hours. Do some math and figure shit out for yourself, know-it-all.
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EVR wrote:
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High no....stupid, YES...
So basically what you are saying is these "sucessful" people,(including yourself ?) are only capable of "operating" in an drug induced state...I hope too hell you aren't a surgeon...pilot would be fine since most of the time they are high...off the ground that is.
Plus, you'd better tell all that to Oregon and Washington. I'm sure there are surgeons and pilots there also. Not just trees and rain.
I'm already 100% certain that their 'victory' will be lost. The feds are giving them a little 'law vacation' to let them think it's all cool, but don't worry, they'll squash it in a couple months.
I'm kinda pissy about that: seems to me if ONE state gets to vote on a law like that, ALL states should be able to vote on the same law. But shit doesn't work that way.
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OUtbound wrote:
Why, that would make me an addict, wouldn't it?
Clue: pot makes you high for two hours. Do some math and figure shit out for yourself, know-it-all.
Take another toke and get back to the fryer..those fish filets aren't going to cook themselves.
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One more thing..Your comment "drug users"...so all drug users just smoke pot?? Next time clarify (if you can) your statement..I have no problem with pot users, thou I choose not to partake myself (anymore) since I grew up.
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Plus, you'd better tell all that to Oregon and Washington. I'm sure there are surgeons and pilots there also. Not just trees and rain.
I'm already 100% certain that their 'victory' will be lost. The feds are giving them a little 'law vacation' to let them think it's all cool, but don't worry, they'll squash it in a couple months.
I'm kinda pissy about that: seems to me if ONE state gets to vote on a law like that, ALL states should be able to vote on the same law. But shit doesn't work that way.
Again I agree, to me pot is no worse (actually probably less harmful/dangerous) than alcohol..don't read alot of stories about "stoners" running people over, into houses, etc. As far as the feds, I think they are going to have their hands full with alot of other, more pressing shit than pot smokers.
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OUtbound wrote:
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That is not true. Florida did drug testing one year, state wide, and only found 2% couldn't pass the drug test. You'd have thunk it woulda been more, huh? Google it.
These kinds of measures only cost the TAXPAYER MORE $$$$$. Considering they only find 2 out of every 100 recipients, and the kits (walgreens price )$18, that's $1800 wasted to find two drug users.
Stupid.
and those losers in the 2% category still probably get their cheques.
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EVR wrote:
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Again I agree, to me pot is no worse (actually probably less harmful/dangerous) than alcohol..don't read alot of stories about "stoners" running people over, into houses, etc. As far as the feds, I think they are going to have their hands full with alot of other, more pressing shit than pot smokers.
Agreed. Prohibition isn't working. You'd have thought they'd learned their lesson the first time with alcohol. BTW, I'd never sell anybodies SS #- that's cold-blooded. It's not even bad for your lungs. I can smoke day after day, and workout - ramping myself up to 45 minute pounding cardio sessions, and not run out of breath. EVER. Tobacco? yea, I'm done after 20 minutes, but pot? I can keep on going, NP.
Here's the stick, for the govt, I think ---- it's the paper mills, and the thousands of criminal justice system workers (judges, lawyers, guards, probation officers) that will have to be laid off when there aren't as many POT criminals around to manipulate.
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Agreed. Prohibition isn't working. You'd have thought they'd learned their lesson the first time with alcohol. BTW, I'd never sell anybodies SS #- that's cold-blooded. It's not even bad for your lungs. I can smoke day after day, and workout - ramping myself up to 45 minute pounding cardio sessions, and not run out of breath. EVER. Tobacco? yea, I'm done after 20 minutes, but pot? I can keep on going, NP.
Here's the stick, for the govt, I think ---- it's the paper mills, and the thousands of criminal justice system workers (judges, lawyers, guards, probation officers) that will have to be laid off when there aren't as many POT criminals around to manipulate.
I don't know about the layoffs in the criminal justice system...seems there are plenty of other criminals that need to be in jail (or dead) and would be, if they weren't busy locking up people for pot (big amounts and small)...plus, like I have seen hundreds of times, think of the taxes (not that I like that, but hey it's lost revenue)if it were legalized in all 50 states. Years ago, I had a neighbor that smoked pot like it was coffee,,,get up in the morning and fire up, smoke on the way to work, go out to lunch and smoke, come home, relax and smoke. His house was the nicest in the neighborhood, grass always cut, house clean, neat inside and out. The neighbor on the other side made enough money to hire someone to do anything he needed, but wouldn't...it would cut into his alcohol money....it was like living in Geist on the one side and the projects on the other. Sorry about the negative comments...if pot is all you do and it makes you do it better, more power to you...just (for your sake and everyone that loves you) move on to the stonger stuff...as Neil Young said " I saw the needle take another man"

Interesting this morning on the radio (Q95 of course) they had a story about people who use meth don't get the flue...who the f**k paid for this study ???
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should have been "just don't move on" I need a drink!

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EVR wrote:
I don't know about the layoffs in the criminal justice system...seems there are plenty of other criminals that need to be in jail (or dead) and would be
There is no shortage of inmates in this country. There are many thousands doing time for marijuana related offenses. Even if every single one of them were to be released all of those bunks could be used to house violent felon who otherwise would have been granted parole to ease overcrowding.

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