Brizzi: Police weren't told of abuse

Marion County Prosecutor Carl Brizzi wants to know why the state Department of Child Services did not notify police after a caseworker determined TaJanay Bailey was physically abused in 2006. Full Story
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A Taxpayer

Peoria, IL

#1 Nov 29, 2007
Have you met Brizzi? He cannot have an IQ over 100.
wonder why

Chicago, IL

#2 Nov 29, 2007
You wonder why things like this happen, it is because government no
matter what level (city, county, state) is to big and everything is made to be so gray and no one really knows what the rulles are because they are written by people that don't want us to know that they really don't know what they are doing and thus everyone builds walls around what they perceive to be there little kingdom. Don't believe me, try getting anything done that requires more than one agency, then try working with the attitude,it is enough to say the hell with everything
all children go to heaven

South Bend, IN

#3 Nov 29, 2007
child welfare can throw there arms up in the air and say we can`t protect every child!what a disgrace!someones head should roll for this one!the animals and children have no voice,they depend on us to protect them.this sad death is a complete break down of the system,this little girl didn`t fall through the cracks,they gave her a death sentence.
Ronald

Indianapolis, IN

#4 Nov 29, 2007
Another case of lowlife people living off the system which allowed them to continue to live a life of debachery. Our system has failed, too many children are living in these conditions and in poverty. It's time to hold the parents accountable for this negligence. Anyone who conceives and lives below the poverty level is doing a grave injustice to our societies children. We should take these kids away, put them into institutions and put the parents in prison.
KLM

Heltonville, IN

#5 Nov 29, 2007
uhhhhh, if a judge makes the decision to take a child OUT of a home, doesn't a judge also have make the decision to put the child BACK in the home? you know it will pan out that the judge wasn't given the correct information on which to base his decision; whereby letting him off the hook. cps is, once again, using the "too few caseworkers, too many children", excuse. meanwhile, this poor, defenseless child, becomes another statistic. I don't know how some people sleep at night.
Poster

United States

#6 Nov 29, 2007
Until CPS stops encouraging 'reunifying' families we'll continue to witness more of these tragic events. Sometimes a foster parent is a better option than a natural parent. Bailey and Green did NOT build a family unit; they built a pig sty and treated their kids with less care than a mother sow.
wonder

Noblesville, IN

#7 Nov 29, 2007
i wonder how many more need to die?
Shameful

Richmond, IN

#8 Nov 29, 2007
It is horrible that this girl was not fully removed and the "parents" stripped of their parental rights. Unfortunately, the "parents" completed all the classes and training. They jumped through every hoop that they were told to go through. WHY IS THERE NO OUTRAGE OVER THE JOKE OF PARENTING CLASSES AND COUNSELING THAT THESE "PARENTS" PASSED? There is a lot of blame on the caseworker, but her hands are tied. They completed everything. In fact, when the homicide investigators came in the apartment, Green's parenting class certificate was laying on a chair. By the way, he had just passed that class that said he was a fit parent. The system that failed this poor girl the most is the rehabilitation system.
Hoosier Daddy

Louisville, KY

#9 Nov 29, 2007
So you can torture your child all you want, as long as you follow up with a couple of parenting classes. That wipes the slate clean and CPS puts the child back into a home that they KNOW to be abusive. You'll finally be arrested AFTER you've done the inevitable...beaten the poor child to death. And this makes sense on WHICH planet?

"Because of the sheer volume of cases in the county, it is possible that the information on some cases may not make it to law enforcement."

In other words, "We're far too busy to report child abuse to the police." What a crock! Then this other guy basically shrugs and says, "Hey, we can't protect every child. So sue us."

It seems that the so-called department of child services is not about protecting children AT ALL, but rather about protecting the parents' "rights" to maim or even kill their child. Well, if that is indeed their aim, I think we can all agree they're doing a bang-up job.
appalled

Indianapolis, IN

#11 Nov 29, 2007
KLM wrote:
uhhhhh, if a judge makes the decision to take a child OUT of a home, doesn't a judge also have make the decision to put the child BACK in the home? you know it will pan out that the judge wasn't given the correct information on which to base his decision; whereby letting him off the hook. cps is, once again, using the "too few caseworkers, too many children", excuse. meanwhile, this poor, defenseless child, becomes another statistic. I don't know how some people sleep at night.
so what your saying is if your poor you shouldnt be allowed to have kids? granted this situation was terrible i cant fathom losing my child in anyway, heck im poor too but i shouldnt lose my kids. the system just needs to be reevaluated, there are too many child abuse cases being repeated, it just needs to change, protect these kids
Ronald

Indianapolis, IN

#13 Nov 29, 2007
appalled wrote:
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so what your saying is if your poor you shouldnt be allowed to have kids? granted this situation was terrible i cant fathom losing my child in anyway, heck im poor too but i shouldnt lose my kids. the system just needs to be reevaluated, there are too many child abuse cases being repeated, it just needs to change, protect these kids
Every day we see stories and hear of the terrible things that happen to children raised in poverty. They don't stand a chance, from lower grades in school to reduced opportunities for employment to illnesses and involvement with gangs drugs and crime.

It's time to stop the cycle. We simply cannot stand by and allow this crime to be perpetuated on children. We know we can't fix the problem with government assistance, it only makes it worse. Time to make it illegal for those below the poverty level to reproduce. Only those with an income above the poverty level should be allowed to have kids.
Concerned

Fishers, IN

#14 Nov 29, 2007
I am so appalled at what the system let happen. I had my son taking away from my family because I did smack my son in the mouth for calling his grandmother a very bad name. It was a reaction. I lost my son for 1 year while we took all kinds of parenting classes and court dates. When he was allowed to come home we had monthly caseworker visits. Home counseling and a weekly therapist. We had a Gaurdian Ad Litem that did home visits. We had someone in our home every week for another 6 months at least. We had weekly reports due to our case manager. How did these people get their kids back so fast? Why?
want justice

Carmel, IN

#15 Nov 29, 2007
...it doesn't matter if the case-workers or supervisors were 'too busy & overwhelmed'. They are being paid to do a job; PROTECT CHILDREN!!! I'm tired of a faulty system; but its people that work in & use the system. If proper paperwork was not filed or the wrong "box" got checked to okay reunification, then, such case-worker/or supervisor should be fired.(Can they be held for contributing to this crime?) These folks need to realize that nearly everything they do --or fail to do-- impacts a life. Especially because they are sooooo busy. If you choose these jobs, never treat your day as routine, as this can be the result.
Timothy Duffie

Cicero, IN

#16 Nov 29, 2007
While we spend billions in Iraq, the greatest threat to our nation is ourselves. We have reared a generation of children that like our enemies in Iraq have little regard for life or property of others. They live for the moment through drug use, sex, and violence. And,they blame everyone else for their shortcomings.

But lets be concerned about Iraq.
Mel

Indianapolis, IN

#17 Nov 29, 2007
Concerned wrote:
I am so appalled at what the system let happen. I had my son taking away from my family because I did smack my son in the mouth for calling his grandmother a very bad name. It was a reaction. I lost my son for 1 year while we took all kinds of parenting classes and court dates. When he was allowed to come home we had monthly caseworker visits. Home counseling and a weekly therapist. We had a Gaurdian Ad Litem that did home visits. We had someone in our home every week for another 6 months at least. We had weekly reports due to our case manager. How did these people get their kids back so fast? Why?
I blame James Payne and the Caseworker.
Pass Juror

Carmel, IN

#18 Nov 29, 2007
Life without parole is too good--seek the death penalty since we do not have caning or stoning as options
IMHO

AOL

#19 Nov 29, 2007
a couple of thoughts...
...How about NOT giving these people any kind of public assistance and see how quickly they give back the kids...Many of these torturers only want the free money that a child in the household brings...

....Does anyone else wonder about the extended family?? Did the child NEVER go to grandmothers, aunts, uncles, close friends of the parents? Where is the bio Dad and HIS family in all this? Did they stay isolated for the entire Thanksgiving holiday? I find that very odd....

...
Part right

Shelbyville, IN

#20 Nov 29, 2007
Ronald wrote:
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Every day we see stories and hear of the terrible things that happen to children raised in poverty. They don't stand a chance, from lower grades in school to reduced opportunities for employment to illnesses and involvement with gangs drugs and crime.
It's time to stop the cycle. We simply cannot stand by and allow this crime to be perpetuated on children. We know we can't fix the problem with government assistance, it only makes it worse. Time to make it illegal for those below the poverty level to reproduce. Only those with an income above the poverty level should be allowed to have kids.
You are partly right - this is a problem that not only cannot be fixed with government assistance, that assistance only makes "the problem" worse. "The problem" as I see it is not a matter of economics. In fact, there was a study or something along those lines that showed that children in poverty level families that attend church and have dinner with their family at least once a week do just as well development/education wise as the norm, or something along those lines. Although the report mentioned church and dinner, I don't think it is so much the activity, but an indication that those kids had a parent or parents who loved the child and were actually being parents. Virtually everyone was poor during the depression, and poor parents found a way to take care of their children. The problem, as I see it, is that we have a system that essentially turns babies into meal tickets - the more babies, the more benefits - and makes no distinction in giving money to those who are disabled and cannot (I call that assistance) and those who are not disabled and can, but find it more attractive to live off government hand outs and think the world owes them a living (I call that handouts and sucking the system to the detriment of those that really need it). Perhaps we would see less of this with a "workfare" system and time limits on benefits (6 months to a year) for able-bodied persons; and instead of increasing benefits after the first baby, providing assistance in the form of terminating parental rights and putting the child up for adoption.
TV Boy

Decatur, IL

#21 Nov 29, 2007
As usual, the child welfare dept dropped the ball and now is hiding behind the law. A perfect case of no accountability. So these two freaks passed the parenting classes? What does that prove? A wife abuser will appear to the the nicest guy in town to everyone else. The foster mother knew more than these so called professionals. And now the welfare department is going into damage control to cover their own butts.
Report it

Shelbyville, IN

#22 Nov 29, 2007
Understanding Neighbor wrote:
Carl Brizzi is a large part of the problem. He conspires with several corrupt Republican judges in Marion and Hamilton Counties to cover up child abuse. In my childrens' case, Judge Nation accepted a bribe of $25,000.00 to protect the child molester who continues to abuse my children. Why is child Protective Services so much better? They destroy all records of child abuse after six months if the abuser can pay his bribe to the Republican judge. It sure helps the statistics to only have six months worth of data at the end of the year to tally up. Outside of abuse cover up and "criminal protection," Governor Daniels has done nothing. Indiana still ranks #1 EVERY year in child deaths and preventable child deaths. By the number ranking, I mean more children die from abuse in Indiana year after year than any other State in the union. What a great job@
I believe that bribing a judge is a crime. If you have proof that this occurred and are not just making things up and spouting off because you are obviously anti-Republican, file a complaint or provide your proof to the Star or some such for them to investigate.

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