Gay marriage now legal in Indiana

Gay marriage now legal in Indiana

Posted in the Indianapolis Forum

average joe

Indianapolis, IN

#1 Jun 25, 2014
The Court just ruled Indiana's law against gay marriage is unconstitutional. The clerk in Indy will start issuing marriage licenses. Bravo. I was afraid Indiana would be the last State. Greg Garrison and the conservative crowd down at WIBC must be coughing up blood. The same old tired arguments were used that were used to defend separation of the races. Tradition. Religion. Blah blah. Some people just don’t understand how entrenched their hatred had become. Didn’t matter that heterosexuals also had oral sex. That heterosexuals have anal sex. They just hated homosexuals so much. And that tired religious refrain “hate the sin love the sinner” was only trotted out by the ugliest of the haters. Its good that they will be forced over the years to confront their bigotry. The world is changing. Just the other day the Episcopaleans decided to embrace gay marriage. Its been legal for years in Europe and the sky hasn’t fallen. The pope himself said “who am I to judge these gay people.” Of course Greg Garrison judges us every day and has us sentenced to fiery hell. But I think its the other way around. These lovely gay people, all angels. And those horrible Christian haters, they’ll burn for their evil thoughts.
Russell Haney

Cincinnati, OH

#2 Jun 25, 2014
1st 9th and 14 amendment says this ruling is right!
Linda Bledsoe

United States

#4 Jun 27, 2014
This really shouldn't be news. Black people can vote, gay people can marry. Eveything is how it should be.
reality check

Zagreb, Croatia

#6 Jun 28, 2014
who cares... the end big whoop
franklin from the bible

Greenwood, IN

#7 Jun 28, 2014
homosexuals are not a miniorty it a choosen life style
no such things as gay rights

Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1
Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them."
1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#9 Jun 29, 2014
No, it's not. You know what IS a chosen lifestyle? Religion. So I guess there are no such things as reli8gious rights. We'll be shutting down all places of worship and burning all religious texts soon.
franklin from the bible wrote:
homosexuals are not a miniorty it a choosen life style
no such things as gay rights
Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1
Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them."
1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."
average joe

Indianapolis, IN

#10 Jun 29, 2014
The highest court to hear these issues so far is the tenth circuit court of appeals which upheld a Utah judge’s decision striking down the State’s ban. This appeals court set a precedent by finding that voter-approved bans on same-sex marriage — such as Utah’s Amendment 3 — violate the constitutional rights of same-sex couples to equal protection and due process. Unless the U.S. Supreme Court invalidates, this is the law of the land in the tenth circuit. Indiana’s 7th Circuit may reach the same conclusion, or it may split from the tenth. It can still go either way. But the language from the Court’s opinion reflects consensus from some 14 federal cases in a row to reach similar result. “We hold that the Fourteenth Amendment protects the fundamental right to marry, establish a family, raise children and enjoy the full protection of a state’s marital laws,” the majority wrote in its decision, posted on the court's website. “A state may not deny the issuance of a marriage license to two persons, or refuse to recognize their marriage, based solely upon the sex of the persons in the marriage union. A similar case in Oklahoma is pending before the 10th circuit. And a Virginia case that struck down that state’s ban has been argued on appeal and a decision is pending. Its anyone’s guess what the 7th circuit will do with Indiana’s decision. Wait and see. But the strong trend is to find both equal protection and due process arguments in favor of gay marriage. Unless we quickly see a split between the circuits, this will be the law of the land. There was a strong dissent from Judge Kelly in the 10th circuit opinion who warned the court was overstepping it authority, but that is the kind of sovereign state argument that few judges believe trumps the 14th amendment. The smart money is still betting on gay marriage nationally. Greg Zoeller had a hard time even getting his stay. He has very few moves left.
Kentucky too

Indianapolis, IN

#11 Jul 1, 2014
A federal judge has struck down Kentucky's ban on same-sex marriage, ruling that gay couples have the right to marry in the Bluegrass State.

"In America, even sincere and long-hold religious beliefs do not trump the constitutional rights of those who happen to have been out-voted," U.S. District court Judge John G. Heyburn II wrote in the ruling, which concluded that the state's ban violated the U.S. Constitution's Equal Protection Clause.

The judge stayed the ruling pending an appeal in the 6th U.S. Circuit Court, meaning same-sex weddings are not yet allowed in the state. However, Heyburn criticized Kentucky Gov. Steve Beshear (D) for arguing that the ban preserves the state's birth rate and therefore contributes to Kentucky's economic stability.

"These arguments are not those of serious people," Heyburn wrote.

Beshear plans to appeal Tuesday's ruling.

Earlier this year, Heyburn ruled that the state must recognize same-sex marriages performed in states where the weddings are legal. That decision is also temporarily on hold pending legal challenges.

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