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Ind. could be first to require armed school employees

There are 583 comments on the USA Today story from Apr 3, 2013, titled Ind. could be first to require armed school employees. In it, USA Today reports that:

The Indiana House Education Committee approved legislation Tuesday, April 2, 2013, that would mandate the creation of a protection officer for each school.

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Since: Mar 13

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#104 Apr 4, 2013
What wrote:
Looking forward to getting back to land of the free, home of the brave. Where a Christian pizza driver can shoot a crack head over $14 in his pocket. Amen. Pass the fried chicken.
A few weeks ago, pizza delivery robberies were nearly an epidimic in this city. It seemed like there were 4 or 5 of them in a very short time span. The thieves were reported to be armed in every incident. This isn't about how much money the delivery guy was carrying, it is about who that money belonged to. The very last pizza delivery robbery we heard about on the news, was the one that ended with the driver shooting the thief. As it turns out, the "gun" the kid was carrying was a toy, but what difference does it make? He made a decision to attempt a robbery, using a toy gun. You can bet that he used a toy gun, because he didn't have a real one. How can you point fingers at Americans that choose to defend themselves against, what are really nothing less than terrorists. If you don't like the word "terrorist", look it up and see if this intimidation, and fear tactic doesn't fit very well with the definition.

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#105 Apr 4, 2013
see the light wrote:
<quoted text>They don't even follow the laws now, what makes you think more stricter background checks will work?
More laws is not the answer. It doesn't matter how many times we say it, it will never change the fact that criminals will have guns. What will change things, is to enforce the laws we have, and to increase punishment for not following the laws already established. In Indy a couple of nights ago, the police shot and killed a suspect that pulled a gun during a traffic stop. This suspect had five prior convictions for carrying a handgun without a license, among numerous other violent, prior convictions. Guess what? He was on the street and carrying a handgun once again. There is no way that someone should get five, in this case, six opportunities to break the same law regarding firearms. It very well could have cost the officers their lives, and would have surely brought death to someone else eventually, if he hadn't been stopped. It appears that this kid was only 25 years old, and I don't know how old he was when he received his first conviction, but it is obvious, that at 25, he hadn't done very much jail time. And that last sentence is the key to reducing gun violence. We can't completely prevent the first offense, but we do have a way of preventing a second.
Cat74

United States

#106 Apr 4, 2013
The way to hold onto your Costitutional rights is to check how the people you are about to vote for feel about those rigts. Democrat candidates will likely want gun control. In the case of Obama he swore to Allah during the campaign he diddn't want your guns, but he wasn't sworn in before he wanted them, or wanted to make it impossible for you to have one. So check thoise people out. Not registered? Register, and vote.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#107 Apr 4, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>those are deputies so what you are saying it then is what's going to keep the police from going nuts and slaughtering dozens or hundreds of schoolkids while at school.
They won't be going through the same screening & training as regular police deputies, but YES, even policemen go nuts sometimes.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#108 Apr 4, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Right, the idiots will think twice before going onto school property now here in Indiana.
They're psychotic already; what makes you think having armed guards is going to deter them? Most of them want to go out in a blaze of gunfire anyways, so having armed guards may actually ENCOURAGE them even more.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#109 Apr 4, 2013
ALL AM 1 wrote:
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And you anti-gun crazies will never understand that the gun problem in America isn't what is killing people, it is a violence problem. We will call it the "Chicago Syndrome" for argument's sake. You are quick to point out that the places that have the most guns, have the most gun violence, but on the other side of that, within our borders, the cities that have the toughest gun laws have the most gun viloence.
That's only because Chicago doesn't properly enforce their gun laws like New York City does. Violent gun crime dropped dramatically in NYC after they put tough "stop & frisk" laws and confiscation laws on the books.

More guns only means you have a shooting war in the cities. The answer is LESS guns, not more.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#110 Apr 4, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Let's clear out the prisons with mass injections and start over. Why feed the animals of society and give them free tv and porn.
On that I agree completely.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#111 Apr 4, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>No law or group of laws will stop an maniac from killing if that is their intent. They can shoot into a school, they can go into the school or they can wait at a school bus stop.......but the people wanting to pass these laws have armed security and metal detectors guarding them, but not the kids. I see the problem here.
Which is why we need to get rid of as many guns as possible.

You should have to go through a strict screening & training program to be able to own a gun.

Every gun should be licensed and registered with local authorities, with annual renewal required.

Anyone caught with an unregistered unlicensed gun should receive 1 year in prison minimum.

Police need to be able to target high crime neighborhoods and be authorized to do random search & seizure of unauthorized guns.

It sucks that it comes to this, but the gun violence has just gotten out of control. When you abuse a right, you lose that right.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#112 Apr 4, 2013
see the light wrote:
<quoted text>They don't even follow the laws now, what makes you think more stricter background checks will work?
According to the FBI, almost HALF of all guns used in crimes were bought LEGALLY through the current system.

Obviously our current system does NOT work and needs to be vastly improved.

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#113 Apr 4, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Which is why we need to get rid of as many guns as possible.
You should have to go through a strict screening & training program to be able to own a gun.
Every gun should be licensed and registered with local authorities, with annual renewal required.
Anyone caught with an unregistered unlicensed gun should receive 1 year in prison minimum.
Police need to be able to target high crime neighborhoods and be authorized to do random search & seizure of unauthorized guns.
It sucks that it comes to this, but the gun violence has just gotten out of control. When you abuse a right, you lose that right.
The police will never be able to target high crime neighborhoods, because of the ACLU, and the perception of "profiling".

I disagree that every firearm should be registered, and licensed. Criminals still aren't going to follow those laws, because the prestige of being a thug on the streets far outweighs the risk of a year in prison. Somewhere, someone has to have the stats on how many crimes committed with a firearm, are committed by offenders previously convicted of firearms violations. I think those stats would be enlightening. I think it would prove that gun violence would decrease dramatically, if there was no second chance to commit such a crime.

I think this epidimic of teenagers carrying guns would decrease dramatically when the kids realize that, when "Johnny" got caught with a handgun, he would not be back in the neighborhood for a very, very long time, if he ever came back at all.

We have the means to put people in prison, and keep them there. Of course, this will require a change to what we have decided prison should look, and feel like to the inmate. I say we start with the worst conditions that a US service member could ever expect to encounter, as far as living conditions are concerned, and make prison much worse.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#114 Apr 4, 2013
ALL AM 1 wrote:
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The police will never be able to target high crime neighborhoods, because of the ACLU, and the perception of "profiling".
I disagree that every firearm should be registered, and licensed. Criminals still aren't going to follow those laws, because the prestige of being a thug on the streets far outweighs the risk of a year in prison. Somewhere, someone has to have the stats on how many crimes committed with a firearm, are committed by offenders previously convicted of firearms violations. I think those stats would be enlightening. I think it would prove that gun violence would decrease dramatically, if there was no second chance to commit such a crime.
I think this epidimic of teenagers carrying guns would decrease dramatically when the kids realize that, when "Johnny" got caught with a handgun, he would not be back in the neighborhood for a very, very long time, if he ever came back at all.
We have the means to put people in prison, and keep them there. Of course, this will require a change to what we have decided prison should look, and feel like to the inmate. I say we start with the worst conditions that a US service member could ever expect to encounter, as far as living conditions are concerned, and make prison much worse.
The ACLU is going to have to get over it.

The only way to stop gun crimes is to get rid of as many guns as possible, especially from the criminals.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#115 Apr 4, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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They won't be going through the same screening & training as regular police deputies, but YES, even policemen go nuts sometimes.
That's ok, many of the police don't go through the same training the teachers do.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#116 Apr 4, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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The ACLU is going to have to get over it.
The only way to stop gun crimes is to get rid of as many guns as possible, especially from the criminals.
Great, how do you propose we do that.......and not infringe.........

“NOT RUSSIAN”

Since: May 08

and not from Russia

#117 Apr 4, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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The ACLU is going to have to get over it.
The only way to stop gun crimes is to get rid of as many guns as possible, especially from the criminals.
Then why aren't they targeting THEM exclusively? They should ONLY be trying to take them from the criminals.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#118 Apr 4, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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According to the FBI, almost HALF of all guns used in crimes were bought LEGALLY through the current system.
Obviously our current system does NOT work and needs to be vastly improved.
Sources of Guns Used in Crimes – FBI Report
March 20, 2009 by Aaron
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FBI reports:
According to the 1997 Survey of State Prison Inmates, among those possessing a gun, the source of the gun was from –

&#9632;a flea market or gun show for fewer than 2%
&#9632;a retail store or pawnshop for about 12%
&#9632;family, friends, a street buy, or an illegal source for 80%
In other words, it ain’t legal purchases from firearms dealers in legal shops or gun shows that criminals use.”

After 1996, less than 10% of nonfatal violent crimes involved firearms.

Only 2% of prison inmates used a military-style semiautomatic gun.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#119 Apr 4, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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The ACLU is going to have to get over it.
The only way to stop gun crimes is to get rid of as many guns as possible, especially from the criminals.
If you are caught in the act of killing, armed robbery, gang violence or drug sales, the easy way to end crime is for the judge to have the police take the perp out after the jury finds them guilty and shoot them in the head. Problem solved.
CBOW

Dover, PA

#120 Apr 4, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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That's just it; you don't know who's going to snap until they do.
Giving them guns is just stupid.
You just admitted it's not about guns, the issue is about mental stability. The kind of people you liberals want to medicate and release onto the streets, rather than "exploit" and lock away. Guns aren't the problem, nutjobs and liberals are.
CBOW

Dover, PA

#121 Apr 4, 2013
Responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course not - after all this is amerikkkkkkka.
You could move to North Korea, I hear they are looking for anti-Americans to fill their ranks.....

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#122 Apr 4, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Great, how do you propose we do that.......and not infringe.........
There is no individual right to own a gun illegally, so there is no infringement.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#123 Apr 4, 2013
Russia1513 wrote:
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Then why aren't they targeting THEM exclusively? They should ONLY be trying to take them from the criminals.
That's exactly what they're doing.

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