I told you about Pedophilia

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Since: Dec 06

Indianapolis

#1 Nov 25, 2013
Could pedophilia soon be legal? Pedophiles are now beginning to seek equal rights by claiming that their desire for children is a sexual orientation no different from heterosexual or homosexuals. The Northern Colorado Gazette reports that psychiatrists are now trying to redefine pedophilia in the same way that homosexuality was decades ago.

Linda Harvey, of Mission America, said the push for pedophiles to have equal rights will become more and more common as LGBT groups continue to assert themselves.“It’s all part of a plan to introduce sex to children at younger and younger ages; to convince them that normal friendship is actually a sexual attraction.”

The American Psychiatric Association (APA) removed homosexuality from its list of mental disorders in 1973, but many fear that the same could soon happen with pedophilia. In 1998, the APA reported that “the vast majority of men and women reported no negative sexual effects from childhood sexual abuse experience.” Harvard Health Publications also stated in 2010 that pedophilia “is a sexual orientation” and unlikely to be cured, with treatment merely aiming “to enable someone to resist acting on his sexual urges.”

http://reagancoalition.com/articles/2013/will...

Since: Aug 12

Indianapolis, IN

#2 Nov 25, 2013
DavidM wrote:
Could pedophilia soon be legal?
No pedophilia could not soon be legal.

There is a psychological diagnosis that can be used to justify nearly every depraved behavior that has ever been committed. Whether you are addicted to sex, using drugs, like to set stuff on fire, or are subject to violent outbursts due to an inability to control your temper there is a combination of pills and therapy which is recommended to treat those conditions.

Even if pedophilia were to be redefined as a sexual orientation that wouldn't make pedophilia legal. It would just give the prison psychiatrist some guidelines on how to treat a pedophile after they have been incarcerated.
Linda Bledsoe

United States

#3 Nov 25, 2013
Yeah I don't see laws changing to make sexual acts permitted on children legal. They can redefine it and debate it in medical journals, but the act of child molesting will always be illegal in my opinion.

Since: Dec 06

Indianapolis

#4 Nov 25, 2013
That is what they said about homosexuals just a few years ago. It was classified as a mental illness and against the law.
Linda Bledsoe wrote:
Yeah I don't see laws changing to make sexual acts permitted on children legal. They can redefine it and debate it in medical journals, but the act of child molesting will always be illegal in my opinion.

Since: Dec 06

Indianapolis

#5 Nov 25, 2013
Lets take a look at another sickness. When the said being homosexual was not a mental illness anymore, laws were repealed. They could not be charged with sodomy. Then came the where they patted them on the back and said it was normal for a man to stick he thing into another man. Now in many states they have the right to marry. So don't say it will never be legal.
Pontificating wrote:
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No pedophilia could not soon be legal.
There is a psychological diagnosis that can be used to justify nearly every depraved behavior that has ever been committed. Whether you are addicted to sex, using drugs, like to set stuff on fire, or are subject to violent outbursts due to an inability to control your temper there is a combination of pills and therapy which is recommended to treat those conditions.
Even if pedophilia were to be redefined as a sexual orientation that wouldn't make pedophilia legal. It would just give the prison psychiatrist some guidelines on how to treat a pedophile after they have been incarcerated.
Larry

Indianapolis, IN

#6 Nov 25, 2013
It is a highly regarded practice in poor Muslim countries. Just as camel love is. It is a part of the world. Get over your religious persecution.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#7 Nov 25, 2013
DavidM wrote:
When the said being homosexual was not a mental illness anymore, laws were repealed. Now in many states they have the right to marry. So don't say it will never be legal.
Ten years ago I would have responded that marriage has been a union of one man and one woman for a thousand years and there's no need to change the definition now. After hearing other zealots try to link a relationship between consenting adults with pedophilia I changed my stance on the issue.
able

Avon, IN

#8 Nov 25, 2013
It's not just a Muslim practice or have we forgotten the countless claims against the Catholic Church ?
Cain

Indianapolis, IN

#9 Nov 25, 2013
able wrote:
It's not just a Muslim practice or have we forgotten the countless claims against the Catholic Church ?
you are right. And don't forget that 80% of republicans are perverted and the cops protect!

How many little boys have they molested?
Cain

Indianapolis, IN

#10 Nov 25, 2013
To answer your original question, the tea baggers will legalize it soon.
Truth

Indianapolis, IN

#11 Nov 25, 2013
This is a very valid point. Americans are justifying homosexually . I think it's a possibility with democrats in office.
Cain

Indianapolis, IN

#12 Nov 26, 2013
Mitch Daniels. Nothing else needs to be said
Linda Bledsoe

United States

#13 Nov 26, 2013
DavidM wrote:
That is what they said about homosexuals just a few years ago. It was classified as a mental illness and against the law.
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I see a major factor and difference here to be age. As long as our society defines adults as 18 or older, there will be laws restricting sexuality against minors. The stuff you are talking about regarding homosexuals was dealing in adult issues.

Since: Dec 06

Indianapolis

#14 Nov 27, 2013
The old 18 again. Many states have the age of consent at 16,including Indiana. Now rape is another story altogether. If a 14 year old is caught having sex (in Indiana) the other person has to be 18 or over before they can be prosecuted.
http://aspe.hhs.gov/hsp/08/sr/statelaws/summa...
http://www.webistry.net/jan/consent.html

Now marriage is a different story even in Indiana:
A certified copy of your birth certificate is required. If you are 17 years old you must apply for the license with both parents (or the person with legal custody). They will need to sign the consent portion of the application. If you are 16 or 15 years old, you must petition the Circuit Court via a "Permission to Marry" form. The cost for filing this petition is $120.00 even if the Judge refuses to allow the couple to marry.
http://marriage.about.com/cs/teenmarriage/a/t...

Even in Michigan: If you are 15 or younger, you will need both parental consent and the approval of the probate

So you see Linda, a man can marry a child in the United States. I see no set laws of how close the ages must be. Example of this would be an 80 year old man marrying a 15 year old girl.

Linda Bledsoe wrote:
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I see a major factor and difference here to be age. As long as our society defines adults as 18 or older, there will be laws restricting sexuality against minors. The stuff you are talking about regarding homosexuals was dealing in adult issues.
Linda Bledsoe

United States

#15 Nov 27, 2013
1) While homosexuals are more likely to be pedophiles, I don't view homosexuality in and of itself as a crime, nor does our current legal code.

2) Child molestation is a crime and I feel strongly that it will remain so. If you think child molesting will be legalized, good for you. I hope you are wrong.

Since: Aug 12

Indianapolis, IN

#16 Nov 28, 2013
Linda Bledsoe wrote:
1) While homosexuals are more likely to be pedophiles, I don't view homosexuality in and of itself as a crime
How did you come up with that theory? In the vast majority of cases molesters are a heterosexual adult relative of the child. It's a crime of power and influence which has very little to do with sexual orientation.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#17 Nov 28, 2013
Pedophilia is legal in every state. Always has been. It's molestation that's illegal, and every state defines it differently. It's unlikely that non-consensual sex will ever be made legal, be it rape or molestation. Both violate the rights of the unwilling party.

Pedophilia has nothing to do with orientation. By definition, orientation refers to peer relationships and gender. Pedophilia is a learned behavior not focused on gender but age.
Dr Hester

Indianapolis, IN

#18 Nov 28, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Pedophilia is legal in every state. Always has been. It's molestation that's illegal, and every state defines it differently. It's unlikely that non-consensual sex will ever be made legal, be it rape or molestation. Both violate the rights of the unwilling party.
Pedophilia has nothing to do with orientation. By definition, orientation refers to peer relationships and gender. Pedophilia is a learned behavior not focused on gender but age.
I agree with everything you said except "Pedophilia is a learned behavior not focused on gender but age."

I have worked with this group of people for 40 years. It has always been the "nature or nurture" debate. Based on my experience with thousands of cases, I am on the side of the nurture theory. Most child molesters act out their genes. There is a learning component, but this is just dialing in the right way to pleasure one's self.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#19 Nov 28, 2013
On whose research? I haven't seen anything peer-reviewed that backs up a genetic basis for pedophilia.
Dr Hester wrote:
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I agree with everything you said except "Pedophilia is a learned behavior not focused on gender but age."
I have worked with this group of people for 40 years. It has always been the "nature or nurture" debate. Based on my experience with thousands of cases, I am on the side of the nurture theory. Most child molesters act out their genes. There is a learning component, but this is just dialing in the right way to pleasure one's self.
Dr Hester

Indianapolis, IN

#20 Nov 28, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
On whose research? I haven't seen anything peer-reviewed that backs up a genetic basis for pedophilia.
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I was basing my opinion on clinical observation.

In my spare time I will do a literature search.

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