Obama says public tired of hearing about his former pastor

[RRR]

A man is judged by the company he keeps. Saying that my children are not influenced by their pastor, teachers, relatives and friends as they grow up is ignorance. Saying that Obama was not influenced by urban terrorists, racist preachers and other stellar role models of similar ilk is also ignorance. He can run, but he cannot hide, lapel pins not withstanding.

[Jim]

TypicalWhitePerson wrote:

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NICE JOB !!!!!!!!!!
Maybe, Obama was referring to the Organisation of the Islamic Conference which has 57 states that are mostly Islamic. Hummmmmmmmmmmm

That was the Freudian slip that I guessed he meant.

[linda]

TypicalWhitePerson wrote:

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You forgot to add QUALITY to your equation, and thats what sets a Lexus apart from Chevy.

oh, im' smarter than you, I learned critical thinking in college! he heeh.. if you noticed, I did not alter the make of the car, the comparison started with a lexus, and ended with a lexus, nothing changed but "THE PAINT" so, point being, a human being is a human being, and what is changing is the "PAINT" now, should I go on to change the model of the car, and where it was made, then i'd be unfair to not account the difference in the car's value. So, let's say, HUMAN BEINGS... ALL FROM OTHER COUNTRIES,(even Bush/Europe), ALL EDUCATED (even Obama), AND ALL CROOKED,(I know bush is) AND SELF SERVING, and who do we have? folks please welcome the U.S.A! now, everything seems to add up as all being equals, but one thing! COLOR... so that's the issue, it is so obvious! they love shady people, so if they thought Obama was shady, he would fit right in! if you noticed, the straight-forward people all resigned on a dime, and risked standing in the unemployment line, they QUIT! so tell me this country is running on character! everybody's banging everybody, high officials getting caught with prostitutes, presidents getting laid in their offices, officials announcing they're gay. whoooooo, give me a break! Obamma is as close to decent as America will ever see. And he is not a killer, hell he can barely argue in his own defense, but he'd better learn!

[TypicalWhitePers on]

linda wrote:

<quoted text>You can play with the point of view all you want you crooked skulled moron! hell nah, cooking oil is just one example of thousands, and i'm not about to waste my time typing them out. just take your soon to be broke azz to the grocery store, and you should see bush's smashed faced smiling back at you on everything you pick up! now, chuckle at those facts!

Can we all say INFLATION..........

Inflation is a rise in general level of prices of goods and services over time.

Economics 101.

Rising prices in a FREE MARKET is not a GWB sin.

[Stuipd Citizens]

RRR wrote:

A man is judged by the company he keeps. Saying that my children are not influenced by their pastor, teachers, relatives and friends as they grow up is ignorance. Saying that Obama was not influenced by urban terrorists, racist preachers and other stellar role models of similar ilk is also ignorance. He can run, but he cannot hide, lapel pins not withstanding.

The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. there are lots of Black folks like Wright. They are smart, educated and will clown. They will not always talk nice or entertain ignorance. Especially when they were talking to other Blacks about white folk. Not to whites. They are not gonna bother to explain or make white folks feel ok. So, America has created all of these distinctions and differences that have led us where we are today. Yet, when a black minister speaks out, truthfully for the most part with some hyperbole, the black candidate for the POTUS who happens to be a member of his church suffers from the fallout.

The discussion doesn't get difficult until people feel that blame is being directed. It probably comes down to two main issues. Whites do not want to be called racists, or hear that race is responsible for most of black people's problems. Blacks do not want race to be discounted and perceived as people who simply cannot handle their problems.

Despite a continuous stream of biased and heavy handed "news" reports, Senator Obama has remained true to himself and his vision of a "more perfect union". He has not reinvented himself and altered his message from state to state. He has not relied on a stream of surrogates to attack his rivals. He has stood up and been accountable to the American people. He is not Wright, he is a different person, many of us listen to opposing views (as we should) without taking those views on...I want a President who does not immediately bomb another country for what could be a small mistake. I want a President who can show some restraint (judgment) only acting harshly when it is really required.

The media placed Wright above important issues not Obama-He needed once again to address this and put an end to it on his side. We have been wasting so much time on Wright? Why? I have never associated Obama with Wright's beliefs and never will-I tell you what-The mud being slung at Obama is amazing and childish-Obama himself has certainly shown grace and integrity unlike screaming throwing tantrum Hillary.

Changes have been made-emancipation proclamation, civil rights act, voting rights act etc. But, the fundamental concept that drives race relations is white supremacy. Does this mean white folks running around in sheets shouting racial epithets-no. What it means is that over protracted period of time one race has been seen and treated as superior to another. Efforts to combat blatant discrimination have had degrees of success, but the psychological effects of long term devaluation are still being felt.

[CommonSense]

RRR wrote:

A man is judged by the company he keeps. Saying that my children are not influenced by their pastor, teachers, relatives and friends as they grow up is ignorance. Saying that Obama was not influenced by urban terrorists, racist preachers and other stellar role models of similar ilk is also ignorance. He can run, but he cannot hide, lapel pins not withstanding.

Dumb ass. Then explain to me how you can go to church for God knows how many years and still be a sinning, bigoted asshole? Despite God's best efforts youre still a pile of dog shit. You can go to church and consistently ignore the principles taught EVERY Sunday that instruct you to be a good and moral citizen, but in your pea brain it is impossible for OBama to ignore and disagree with things he heard SOME Sundays WHEN he even went to church. Find another euphemism to mask your racial hatred. This one is worn out.

[Stuipd Citizens]

A Comparison
Barack Obama and Ronald Reagan:
Barring some event of staggering significance, Barack Obama will be the Democratic nominee for president. Many, though, believe Obama doesn't deserve it. His refusal to walk out of the Chicago church where his former minister, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., made many incendiary remarks, including that AIDS was a white plot against blacks, render Obama too duplicitous and morally deficient to inhabit our highest office.

Obama has offered a complex explanation, but one that does not include what was likely a powerful component for his sticking with Wright. That is, that walking away would have meant abandoning his strongest Chicago political constituency, thus making it impossible for him to get elected to his first political office.

Obama was straight in his speech on race about being an imperfect candidate, not possessing the moral purity his fervid supporters have wished upon him. Hillary Clinton supporters, and many of the media's bloviators, say Obama's association with Wright fatally flaws him. Conservatives, of course, are now smacking their lips in anticipation of his candidacy.
So just how wrong was Obama? What punishment, if any, does he deserve?

Step back with me into recent history. I was one of the first reporters on scene in 1964 when three young civil rights workers, two Jewish kids from New York named Michael Schwerner and Andrew Goodman, and a black kid from Mississippi, James Chaney, disappeared near Philadelphia, Miss. They had driven down from a training school I'd attended in Oxford, Ohio, to prepare them for what was called Freedom Summer, the hoped-for final victorious assault on segregation in the country's most racist state.

The morning after the first reports of their missing went out, I went with a colleague to the courthouse in Philadelphia and questioned the tobacco-chewing sheriff, Lawrence Rainey, and his pulpy-faced deputy, Cecil Price. They said that the three kids had been arrested on a traffic violation, briefly held in jail, but released at the county line.

In the immediate days following, alarm spread and FBI agents were sent down by FBI chief J. Edgar Hoover. Hordes of national reporters arrived and national indignation grew. Mississippi's response was denial and defiance. The governor, Paul Johnson, and the state's notoriously racist senator, Jim Eastland, suggested that the kids were in Cuba, that this was nothing but a Communist plot to make Mississippi look bad.

[Gab]

It's amazing to me this election boils down to race,gender,age or religeon.
When it comes time to vote we still won't have a clue about,espically Obamas,policy.

[Stuipd Citizens]

And when the kids' bodies—they had been brutally beaten and then shot—were found by the FBI buried in an earthen dam, Mississippi's nearly unanimous response was to say that as "outside agitators" the kids had brought their fate upon themselves.

When the FBI implicated both the sheriff and his deputy, a few Klansmen also were indicted on federal charges of violating the victims' civil rights. A Mississippi jury turned them all loose.

Not a single elected official, not a single significant business or religious leader in the state of Mississippi, decried this horrendous crime. The few courageous whites who spoke up were threatened, ostracized or literally run out of the state.

Soon after, President Lyndon B. Johnson throttled official racism with the Voting Rights and Civil Rights Acts. Southern whites, led by Mississippi, bellowed in collective outrage in defense of so-called states' rights, and rapidly began to desert the Democratic Party.

And it was in Philadelphia, Miss., at the annual Neshoba County Fair, that Ronald Reagan chose to kick off his campaign for president in 1980.

"I believe in states' rights," he declared. "I believe we have distorted the balance of our government today by giving powers that were never intended to be given in the Constitution to that federal establishment."

His message to Southern whites was intentional and clear: "Boys, I'm on your side."

When he was governor of California and when he was president, Reagan opposed every single piece of civil rights legislation that came his way.

Was Reagan a white racist? I reported extensively on his campaigns and knew him as well as any reporter could, which was, probably, not a lot, and I don't believe he was. But he did what he and his handlers thought was necessary to appease Southern whites. Was that morally wrong? Absolutely.

Is Obama a black racist? Obviously not. In not leaving Wright's church, Obama did what Reagan did—not affront a powerful constituency. Was that morally wrong? Absolutely.

Whose crime, though, was the more egregious? This is a fair question, because Reagan took very little heat from the allegedly liberal media, little from Democrats, and none at all from Republicans for his pandering in Philadelphia, Miss., which was a painful insult to every black and Jew in America. And since then, of course, Reagan has been elevated to something approaching sainthood by the Republican right.

Will Obama get off so lightly? Not a chance. His failure to totally reject and repudiate Wright already has caused a national uproar, and if he wins the nomination, the Republicans certainly will "Swift Boat" and "Willie Horton" him relentlessly with Wright's more incendiary remarks, and with that photo of Obama with his arm draped over Wright's shoulder.

And fair or unfair, it will starkly validate Obama's brilliant dissection of the still festering problem of race in our country.

[TypicalWhitePers on]

O-Waahhh-ma wrote:

Just tired of hearing his LAME "answers" to how he could sleep through 20 YEARS of "sermons" and still be totally oblivious to what "Rev." Wright said and believed.
That must be a record in "tuning out"..

Obama....." I did not have spiritual relations with that pastor "

[linda]

RRR wrote:

A man is judged by the company he keeps. Saying that my children are not influenced by their pastor, teachers, relatives and friends as they grow up is ignorance. Saying that Obama was not influenced by urban terrorists, racist preachers and other stellar role models of similar ilk is also ignorance. He can run, but he cannot hide, lapel pins not withstanding.

Bush just came back from sitting on the seat beside terriost, begging for oil! if you think for one moment those arabs like the U.S. you are in a delusion. If they like us even remotely, they would have tryed to work out something, but what did they do? told him NO! and probally fell on the floor when he left, laughing and rolling in their robes! But, there is nothing wrong with being friendly, who needs more enemies? you should be encouraging them to be friendly, by the time we get through walking because our oil wells are dry, you might be calling begging someone to kiss some azzes. Not being friendly is why we are in recession. dud! As far as church... you know the more you people type this mess, the more I am thankful to God that Obamma had a pastor who could warn him about how dirty you people are. He is shocked still, but maybe Wright gave him a few coping skills with his lectures. He told him some valuable sh.., like; the world is cold, they will crusify you, they will complain that blacks won't go and get an education, but son, when you get one, then they will persecute you for the color of your skin, and still won't let you use your degree! wright probally told him, they will pat you on the back and shake your hand as long as you are flipping burgers, but as soon as you try to snip a piece of the pie, they will forget everything they ever pretended to stand for, to bring you down. Hopefully wright told Obamma, son they will do every evil in the book to every nation of people with no remorse, and they will stand on the top on the mountain and cry "rightousness" Obamman; wright said; they want everything that is worth anything to belong to only those who is draped in white elastic. They will lie on you, frame you, destroy you with their media,falsify documents, use propaganda stategies, and any methods neccessary, and at the end of boldly doing all of that, they will shamelessly demand that "EQUAL OPPORTUNITY" is stamped on every employment application, and pasted on the wall of every place of business!..... at this point, as Obamma watches wrights words unfold as truth, what the hell can he say, except lord, thank you for allowin for the preparation of the low-down dirty, dirty, decietful WHITE-MAN! AMEN, Wright, you were Right, Wright, rite, write, any other way you wanna say it!

[Gab]

The landscape of our entire society has greatly changed since the 1980's.
Compairing Regan to Obama is silly at best.
What exactly has Obama done to have an honest discussion about race?
Theres no more segregated day than Sunday.
Obama sat in his all black church for over 20 years of Sundays.
Is that where he was honing his skills as a great race uniter?

[upset]

TypicalWhitePerson wrote:

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Obama....." I did not have spiritual relations with that pastor "

In Obama's defence he is not that smart otherwise it would not have taken 20 years to figure out Rev. Wright, Also Obama has shown he can't even figure out which button to push when voting or did he really flip flop. http://www.youtube.com/watch... he couldn't even make up his mind on how to vote most of the time and voted present. I hope he will have good advisors that are proud to be American and are not bitter

[BUNNIE]

Stuipd Citizens wrote:

MCCAIN HATES MLK HOLIDAY:
On 40th year anniversary of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was assassinated in Memphis. It's a day when many of us will celebrate his legacy, the values he espoused, and his vision for a better America....[The media will likely focus a great deal on politicians who give speeches where they try to align themselves with his legacy.
McCain will brought his "Service to America" tour to Memphis in April, but many people don't know the service he touts includes voting against the federal holiday honoring Dr. King. In August 1983 he fought the holiday, voting to block a piece of bipartisan legislation honoring him that was supported by even conservative Republicans--including Dick Cheney--and signed into law by President Reagan.
McCain went on to resist recognizing a King holiday in his home state of Arizona. When Arizona's state legislature failed to pass a bill recognizing a holiday honoring Dr. King, the governor at the time, Bruce Babbit, created the holiday by executive order. Babbit's successor, Gov. Evan Mecham rescinded the order as his first act in office, doing away with the holiday. John McCain's response? He defended the governor, not Dr. King.(After undoing the holiday, the same governor went on to publicly support referring to Black people as "pickaninnies")...
In 1990, seven years after his initial vote, McCain went along with establishing a King holiday. On the campaign trail in 2000, facing questions about his history on this issue, McCain declared he had "evolved."
Looking at the rest of McCain's public record, even recently, it's hard to see much evidence of an "evolution". In fact, McCain has consistently opposed a civil rights agenda:
• He voted an amazing FOUR times against the Civil Rights Act of 1990--a bill designed to make it easier for employees to prove job discrimination and imposing harsher penalties on bosses who discriminated.
• In 2004 he opposed affirmative action in college admissions--a key component of the 1964 Civil Rights Act that is among King's key legislative victories.
• He has voted at least 8 times against raising the minimum wage.
• And as recently as last month, he argued against federal intervention to help Americans, disproportionately Black Americans, who have faced foreclosure during the housing crisis.
For more info on McCain's record, read this factsheet:
http://colorofchange.org/mccain_facts

Who cares. You GOT all the black voters - felons and all. I'm more concerned with the innocent people being killed, raped, mugged, stolen from by blacks. Since you're such a know-it-all, can you shed some light on that, please?????!!!!!

[BUNNIE]

TypicalWhitePerson wrote:

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Obama....." I did not have spiritual relations with that pastor "

Absolutely BEAUTIFUL! I'll use that one a million times. Thanks!

[TypicalWhitePers on]

Stuipd Citizens wrote:

"I believe in states' rights," he declared. "I believe we have distorted the balance of our government today by giving powers that were never intended to be given in the Constitution to that federal establishment."
His message to Southern whites was intentional and clear: "Boys, I'm on your side."

He was referring to " STATES RIGHTS " you silly child ! What a sad day in America when a socialist propagandist (the reporter) can get away with defining the term “States Rights” as a form of racism.

[BUNNIE]

Gab wrote:

The landscape of our entire society has greatly changed since the 1980's.
Compairing Regan to Obama is silly at best.
What exactly has Obama done to have an honest discussion about race?
Theres no more segregated day than Sunday.
Obama sat in his all black church for over 20 years of Sundays.
Is that where he was honing his skills as a great race uniter?

Yeah, miss smarty StupudCitizen....shed some light on this question.

[BUNNIE]

Gab wrote:

It's amazing to me this election boils down to race,gender,age or religeon.
When it comes time to vote we still won't have a clue about,espically Obamas,policy.

I'm sure he'll hem and haw during debates, and dazzle us with his rhetoric and double talk.

[linda]

TypicalWhitePerson wrote:

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Can we all say INFLATION..........
Inflation is a rise in general level of prices of goods and services over time.
Economics 101.
Rising prices in a FREE MARKET is not a GWB sin.

Yep! I can say inflation for you... come on and say it with me!
IN...
FLAT...
ION....(AND WHAT DOES THAT SPELL CLASS?)

IN FLAT "OUT" OF EVERYTHING..... LOL

[Roo76]

BUNNIE wrote:

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Yeah, miss smarty StupudCitizen....shed some light on this question.

Hey Bunnie for justice! I don't know the guy, but StuPUD Citizen is a funny name.