Belief in evolution is no litmus test for president

In his Feb. 8 column "Leave it up to the convention," Ken Bode echoes a comment that I have heard several times during this presidential campaign. Read more
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Chris46227

Indianapolis, IN

#1 Feb 16, 2008
Belief in evolution (modern evolutionary theory, not Darwinian, which while correct in principle has many flaws) shows a fundamental understanding of reason. That is the litmus test, not evolution itself. Failure to believe in evolution is evidence of a severe problem with reason, which is probably why most who don't are Republicans.
Geez

Indianapolis, IN

#2 Feb 16, 2008
Brad, please quit spouting the party line that there is no evidence (that means data, hard data) supporting the theory of evolution. There is. The vast, vast majority of scientists (and I mean certified scientists, not self-identified) understand the scientific method, the need for and existence of supporting data, hence the theory of evolution. Case is not closed of course, but evolution has an enormous delegate lead over intelligent design ... something like 100,000 - 1.

Please try educational sources other than scripture. Might surprise you.

“I know you are, but what am I?”

Since: Dec 06

That way...

#3 Feb 16, 2008
Wow...

And monkeys fly out of your butt...
Roy Bean

United States

#4 Feb 16, 2008
And 30% believe in UFO aliens have visited and Big Foot runs around the Northwest. Science isn't up for public opinions.

A basic knowledge and acknowledgement of science should be expected of a President.

P.S. Brad...I hope you don't get one of the drug-resistent diseases (you know the ones that evolved), you might change your position a little.
Unleaded

AOL

#5 Feb 16, 2008
We certainly don't need a President that thinks the earth is only 6000 years old.
Fred

United States

#6 Feb 16, 2008
You mean God didn't create beings on another planet then they evolved to intellectual giants. They flew to Earth in a saucer type aircraft and left Big Foot to amaze us. You mean that is not what happened.
J Fred Muggs

Anderson, IN

#7 Feb 16, 2008
Maybe 50 percent off the people Brad hangs around with don't believe in evolution.

He needs to widen the number of people he's asked for his "survey"
Chuck Anziulewicz

Milton, WV

#8 Feb 16, 2008
How could I POSSIBLY support a Presidential candidate who believes that all of creation took place roughly 6,000 years ago, and that human beings walked side-by-side with dinosaurs?
round

United States

#9 Feb 16, 2008
Chuck Anziulewicz wrote:
How could I POSSIBLY support a Presidential candidate who believes that all of creation took place roughly 6,000 years ago, and that human beings walked side-by-side with dinosaurs?
I'm pretty sure dinosaurs never existed and are a complete hoax.
Bob

Indianapolis, IN

#10 Feb 16, 2008
We have a president who claims to be a Christian, a man who says god choose him to be presdient, a man who has lied repeatedly to us, run up huge deficits, sent thousands to their deaths in an immoral war.....yea we need another christian in the oval office
Dan of Seymour

Tucson, AZ

#11 Feb 16, 2008
Bush IS a good Christian man, who claimed he thought God wanted him to be president. NOT that God "chose" him. Big difference. In other words, he felt a calling to run for President. Bush has NEVER knowing lied to us, and the deficits you so abhor have been mounting for many, many years, and indeed have come down in recent years.(Where was your outrage during the 40+ years of tax-and-spend Democrat congresses prior to '94?) The invasion of Iraq was the right thing to do, given what was presented by a myriad of intelligence services from around the world, and the congressional vote in favor of the War Powers Act.(BTW, all the Democrats who voted for it had access to the same intelligence information as the President. That they now try to say they "didn't know" is the height of hippocrisy.) The thing I like best about Bush is that he'll always tell it like it is, even if he knows it'll mean folks like you will criticize him for it. Contrast that trait with his predecessor, who couldn't make a decision without talking a poll first.
Dr Robert O Adair

Brooklyn, NY

#12 Feb 16, 2008
Chris, having read many of your posts, I think you should explain to those not acquainted with your views that "reason" in your vocabulry has nothing whatsoever to do with logic or respect for facts. The evoltion myth is simply thinly veiled, dogmatic, closed minded Atheism. It is believed in by "a majority of scientists" mainly because it is the ground and pillar of world socialism. If these "scientists" didn't believe. they would lose their jobs and possibly their heads along with it!
Dr Robert O Adair

Brooklyn, NY

#13 Feb 16, 2008
Dan, what is fascinating about your "Bush lied, men died!" rhetoric is that liberals like you used Haeckel's fraudulant drawings of the human embryo to justify the murder of the unborn, and drenched in the blood of your over 50 million victims, you are giving us a lecture on "the true meaning of true humanity". How inspiring!
Ummm

Anderson, IN

#14 Feb 16, 2008
Dr Robert O Adair wrote:
Chris, having read many of your posts, I think you should explain to those not acquainted with your views that "reason" in your vocabulry has nothing whatsoever to do with logic or respect for facts. The evoltion myth is simply thinly veiled, dogmatic, closed minded Atheism. It is believed in by "a majority of scientists" mainly because it is the ground and pillar of world socialism. If these "scientists" didn't believe. they would lose their jobs and possibly their heads along with it!
"Creationism" and "intelligent design" are not-so-thinly veiled closed-minded religious dogma that have no factual basis whatsoever.
Jimbo

United States

#15 Feb 16, 2008
I don't "believe in" evolution; I understand that evolution is the best explanation for the body of observed data. Evolution has been a fundamental organizing principle of the universe since it began. I do believe in God, however, just not in the inerrancy of the Bible about events none of the people who wrote it were around to witness.

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#16 Feb 16, 2008
45 years ago a science teacher I had in a catholic school started his a class by tossing a symbolic bible in the metal trash can next to his desk. Explaining during the process that religion is about faith and this is a science class where we discuss scientific theory. Some people believe faith and theory are the same thing however faith is about interpreting and accepting the written word of god and theory is about evaluating data that must pass rigorous scientific tests and scrutiny to be accepted. Even though the two should be able to co-exist they are two entirely different concepts. He taught in that catholic school for almost 35 years with no adverse backlash from the congregation. I think his summation of the issue at hand would serve us all well.
wow

United States

#17 Feb 16, 2008
Dr. Adair of the Adair institute. That says enough. Why do Christians have to believe in the literal interpretation of the bible. As a Christian I understand that it is the inspired word of God written by 1st and 2nd century MEN whose own prejudices may have influenced what was written. The Old Testament is just that. All of my Christian education taught me that Christ was the NEW testament. Why the reliance on the fire and brimestone of the OLD? Let's not be so damn close minded about science. If science and empiricism is not respected than how does one foster progress?
Mike

Russell Springs, KY

#18 Feb 16, 2008
Chris46227 wrote:
Belief in evolution (modern evolutionary theory, not Darwinian, which while correct in principle has many flaws) shows a fundamental understanding of reason. That is the litmus test, not evolution itself. Failure to believe in evolution is evidence of a severe problem with reason, which is probably why most who don't are Republicans.
Chris, you are proof positive that evolution is fact because you're still in the primate stage. Baboon, I believe.
Transparent

Carmel, IN

#19 Feb 16, 2008
Ummm wrote:
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"Creationism" and "intelligent design" are not-so-thinly veiled closed-minded religious dogma that have no factual basis whatsoever.
Yeah, we just magically appeared one day without a divine Creator ... one day we were a fish and the next we had legs and were walking on land ... or was it apes we evolved from? Now who believes in fairy tales?
If we have more than 6 billion people on this planet and not a single one of us has the same 100 percent identical DNA or fingerprints - is that not a case for intelligent design? Or do you still want to stick to the cosmic accident theory? Of course, none of these premises requires any faith other than in man's ideas.
Leon

Ashland, KY

#20 Feb 16, 2008
Roy Bean wrote:
... and Big Foot runs around the Northwest...
Just a clarification. Big Foot lives in the woods along Fairview Drive according to a local newspaper.

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