The right wing, Christian Dominionist, tea baggers, of the GOP, Must be Stopped!

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Moe

Indianapolis, IN

#1 Oct 19, 2013
In the South one hundred years is not that long. There is a collective memory of the American Civil War were the North was demonized and the South venerated. Go to any small town and you are more likely to find a memorial to a Southern saint from this war than any others.

This collective memory is there whether an individual is 10 year or 110 years old. This slight to the heart and honor of the South affects everything. From the way government is run, the way people vote, and the way people worship. It affects their politics and it affects all of their belief systems.

One the biggest turnarounds in history happened in the early Sixities when Kennedy was elected President. The majority to this point in the South seemed to vote Democratic. After the Kennedy-Johnson years there was a whip lash in the South. En masse the Southern bloc turned to Republican and the Democratics firmed up their ranks with the Blacks and the disenfrancised. One of the greatest mysteries of all time was how the elite and powerful of the South convince the poor to come with them. This area of the country is home to the least educated and poorest people in the country. Why would the poor support a scheme to insure the rich got wealthier and the poor remained downtrodden? It was for "nationalistic" reasons similar to the Nazis take over of Germany.

When the party aligned with religious conversatives, the ball really started rolling to the goal of Dominion. So in the South to be a Christian meant being a Republican . Being a Southerner meant being Republican.. Once this line was crossed, psyche masses of the South would believe about any conspiracy or lie. It was often said that the educated and elite did not believe the bizarre rhetoric and only went along with because the poor, disadvantage, brain washed , and poor Southerner believed it because they were on the side of God. Again this has many parallels to the elites in Nazi Germany.

The South's God is that of the Old Testament. He is an angry, vengeful, cruel, and capricious. Some races and people are meant to be slaves. Some are destined for Hell, some destined for Heaven, determined by God at their birth. Their Jesus carries a flaming sword of justice and is a holy warrior sent to defeat Satan and the forces of evil. There is little talk of forgiveness, grace, or love. The ring wing Christian believes he is here to exert dominion over the world and when evil is defeated, he will. And the human race will live forever in paradise governed by the Leviticus code and Mosaic Law.

Perhaps paradise for the ruling class, but how about the rest? Blacks? Muslims ? Pagans? What is to become of the vast majority who are only a drain on the world and the ruling class?

According to the secret plan, called Agenda 21, the goal after seizing control is to reduce the world's population by 90 to 95%. This was prophesied by the Georgia Guidestones a couple of decades ago. This will not be accomplished through abortion as the war on women and abortion was one the main ways that the Dominionist seize power. But there are many other acceptable ways to depopulate the earth: Disease, famine, war, extermination, eugenics, execution, and government planned parenthood.

When depopulation is accomplished, only the best will be left to use the world's resources. IT will be elite Christians, elite warrior class, and the elite slave class.

The main goal is go back to the power structure of the antebellum plantations while using terms like Christian, Honor, and Justice.

Remember this the next time you thinking about supporting a Republican. They are evil doers wrapped in the garb of elite Christians. These Christians aren't here to save you out of love and for grace. These Christians are here to destroy and rule.

The Christian Dominionist and the Republican has to be stopped.

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Larry

Indianapolis, IN

#2 Oct 19, 2013
Moe wrote:

The main goal is go back to the power structure of the antebellum plantations while using terms like Christian, Honor, and Justice.
Remember this the next time you thinking about supporting a Republican. They are evil doers wrapped in the garb of elite Christians. These Christians aren't here to save you out of love and for grace. These Christians are here to destroy and rule.
The Christian Dominionist and the Republican has to be stopped.
notes to continue\\
That pretty much sums it up. Most Republicans are wolves in sheep clothing for the most part. Just look and hear Cruz talk.
Guy

Indianapolis, IN

#3 Oct 19, 2013
And the Democrats are the real sheep, following their anti-Christ Obama straight to hells gate. They will put the mark of the beast on them, or in them, per Obamacare and the microchip under the skin, for tracking purposes.

Obama is the great deceiver, Satan on earth.
Carol

Indianapolis, IN

#4 Oct 19, 2013
Guy wrote:
And the Democrats are the real sheep, following their anti-Christ Obama straight to hells gate. They will put the mark of the beast on them, or in them, per Obamacare and the microchip under the skin, for tracking purposes.

Obama is the great deceiver, Satan on earth.
Look at Ted Cruz acting like a hayseed. He doesn't believe the crap he is preaching . He is Harvard educated. He knows about propaganda and psych manipulation of the retarded republicans. He is like the elite in Nazi Germany.

We are doomed to a second holo cast!
If you all believe him
Ralph

Bloomingdale, IN

#5 Oct 20, 2013
Moe, I am confused. Is it the Republicans, Teabaggers, or Christians? The Democrats seem to be following the governments of the past, meaning they all seem to be working together to a common goal.
I guess it is possible, on Topix, to pull an opinion from Uranus.
Out of this world man.

Since: Feb 13

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#6 Oct 20, 2013
Ralph wrote:
Moe, I am confused. Is it the Republicans, Teabaggers, or Christians? The Democrats seem to be following the governments of the past, meaning they all seem to be working together to a common goal.
I guess it is possible, on Topix, to pull an opinion from Uranus.
Out of this world man.
More Moeism.....cut, copy and paste.
Andrew

Indianapolis, IN

#7 Oct 20, 2013
Carol wrote:
<quoted text>
Look at Ted Cruz acting like a hayseed. He doesn't believe the crap he is preaching . He is Harvard educated. He knows about propaganda and psych manipulation of the retarded republicans. He is like the elite in Nazi Germany.
We are doomed to a second holo cast!
If you all believe him
You know we could learn from the past, in this case Germany. They had splinter groups that broke from the main parties and they ended up with a nut job named Hitler/Cruz/Boner. Pretty much like these idiots that want to think Cruz/Boner is the NEW hope. Just pathetic.
Guy

Indianapolis, IN

#8 Oct 20, 2013
Carol wrote:
<quoted text>
Look at Ted Cruz acting like a hayseed. He doesn't believe the crap he is preaching . He is Harvard educated. He knows about propaganda and psych manipulation of the retarded republicans. He is like the elite in Nazi Germany.
We are doomed to a second holo cast!
If you all believe him
If you follow Obama you are under the wings of Satan. He is the anti-Christ
Im not moe

Fishers, IN

#9 Oct 20, 2013
Ralph wrote:
Moe, I am confused. Is it the Republicans, Teabaggers, or Christians? The Democrats seem to be following the governments of the past, meaning they all seem to be working together to a common goal.
I guess it is possible, on Topix, to pull an opinion from Uranus.
Out of this world man.
I'm not Moe, but I'll reply anyway. It's not ALL Republicans, but it's the fact that the Dominionist Christian wing of the party has the rest of the Republican party by the short-hairs, for reasons unknown to me. Maybe the rest of the party is too afraid that they'd lose more of the wack-job votes than they'd gain of the moderate/rational/sane votes if they finally told the Dominionists to take a hike. I'm not convinced that's true, and the country is worse off for it. It'd be nice to have a sensible, reasonable Republican party to temper the Democrats,... but we're sure not seeing it now.
As for the Tea Party, some of them talk a reasonable game - "we're just libertarians, really" or something like that; I have some very good friends who I KNOW are not racist at heart, who call themselves Tea Party supporters for those reasons,... but then you keep hearing about nut-bags like Tea Party Unity's Rick Scarborough, who sincerely wants to outlaw homosexuality (look him up, seriously). For every TP mouthpiece who says they're live-and-let-live and truly for minimal government and not for imposing religion on other citizens, there are two or three who can't logic their way out of a paper bag on the concept of government NEUTRALITY towards religion being the only way to allow all citizens EQUAL religious freedom. Most of the time you hear the rational, thoughtful TP pitch, when you then scratch the surface, you still find another jack-slap Dominionist who's just (barely) sophisticated enough to try to disguise himself.
And if the Republican Party proper isn't for basing laws on religion, they should get the anti-same-sex marriage plank out of their official platform.'Cos every argument against same-sex marriage boils down to either a) religion, or b) unfounded speculation, and emphatically not c) an objective reading of civil law and civil rights principles.
Hank

Indianapolis, IN

#10 Oct 20, 2013
Im not moe wrote:
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I'm not Moe, but I'll reply anyway. It's not ALL Republicans, but it's the fact that the Dominionist Christian wing of the party has the rest of the Republican party by the short-hairs, for reasons unknown to me. Maybe the rest of the party is too afraid that they'd lose more of the wack-job votes than they'd gain of the moderate/rational/sane votes if they finally told the Dominionists to take a hike. I'm not convinced that's true, and the country is worse off for it. It'd be nice to have a sensible, reasonable Republican party to temper the Democrats,... but we're sure not seeing it now.
As for the Tea Party, some of them talk a reasonable game - "we're just libertarians, really" or something like that; I have some very good friends who I KNOW are not racist at heart, who call themselves Tea Party supporters for those reasons,... but then you keep hearing about nut-bags like Tea Party Unity's Rick Scarborough, who sincerely wants to outlaw homosexuality (look him up, seriously). For every TP mouthpiece who says they're live-and-let-live and truly for minimal government and not for imposing religion on other citizens, there are two or three who can't logic their way out of a paper bag on the concept of government NEUTRALITY towards religion being the only way to allow all citizens EQUAL religious freedom. Most of the time you hear the rational, thoughtful TP pitch, when you then scratch the surface, you still find another jack-slap Dominionist who's just (barely) sophisticated enough to try to disguise himself.
And if the Republican Party proper isn't for basing laws on religion, they should get the anti-same-sex marriage plank out of their official platform.'Cos every argument against same-sex marriage boils down to either a) religion, or b) unfounded speculation, and emphatically not c) an objective reading of civil law and civil rights principles.
I am not Moe, but that is a thougthtful post. The wing nuts on here will accuse you of cut and pastking.
Hank

Indianapolis, IN

#11 Oct 20, 2013
Guy wrote:
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If you follow Obama you are under the wings of Satan. He is the anti-Christ
You sound like a demon or one who is demon possessed.

Do you want to kill off 95% of the world's population leaving only Whites?

Do you think you are entitled to rule the world with Christ the Warrior King?

Do you want to limit power to 95% of the world by gerrymandering, limits on voting, no health care, and executions?

Yes, you are a Dominionist, my friend!
Hank

Indianapolis, IN

#12 Oct 20, 2013
Ralph wrote:
Moe, I am confused. Is it the Republicans, Teabaggers, or Christians? The Democrats seem to be following the governments of the past, meaning they all seem to be working together to a common goal.
I guess it is possible, on Topix, to pull an opinion from Uranus.
Out of this world man.
Are you retarded?

Can you see what these loonies are doing? Read their manifesto. They are as crazy as the Taliban. IF given the chance, they will topple the government, cause war, kill, poison and lie to promote their cause. It is the theory of total war. Kill, Kill, Kill....They will be the only ones left. The near shut down of the government and economic collapse was not a stunt. This is the type of actions they will do to destroy the USA. They follow their God and not the Constitution. Their God is of the Old Testament who rules with a sword. That love and grace crap has been kicked to the curb.

You may be a Christian, but I wager you are not one of the Dominionist Christians. PEople have got to learn that just because they call themselves "christian" does not mean they are not EVIL!!!
Moe

Indianapolis, IN

#13 Oct 20, 2013
Now this is a cut and paste. The first note was mine.

I copy this for your edification.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/08...

A Christian Plot for Domination?
by Michelle Goldberg

Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry aren't just devout—both have deep ties to a fringe fundamentalist movement known as Dominionism, which says Christians should rule the world.

....understanding Dominionism isn’t optional.

Put simply, Dominionism means that Christians have a God-given right to rule all earthly institutions. Originating among some of America’s most radical theocrats, it’s long had an influence on religious-right education and political organizing. But because it seems so outré, getting ordinary people to take it seriously can be difficult. Most writers, myself included, who explore it have been called paranoid. In a contemptuous 2006 First Things review of several books, including Kevin Phillips’ American Theocracy, and my own Kingdom Coming: The Rise of Christian Nationalism, conservative columnist Ross Douthat wrote,“the fear of theocracy has become a defining panic of the Bush era.”

Now, however, we have the most theocratic Republican field in American history, and suddenly, the concept of Dominionism is reaching mainstream audiences. Writing about Bachmann in The New Yorker this month , Ryan Lizza spent several paragraphs explaining how the premise fit into the Minnesota congresswoman’s intellectual and theological development. And a recent Texas Observer cover story on Rick Perry examined his relationship with the New Apostolic Reformation, a Dominionist variant of Pentecostalism that coalesced about a decade ago.“[W]hat makes the New Apostolic Reformation movement so potent is its growing fascination with infiltrating politics and government,” wrote Forrest Wilder. Its members “believe Christians—certain Christians—are destined to not just take ‘dominion’ over government, but stealthily climb to the commanding heights of what they term the ‘Seven Mountains’ of society, including the media and the arts and entertainment world.”

In many ways, Dominionism is more a political phenomenon than a theological one. It cuts across Christian denominations, from stern, austere sects to the signs-and-wonders culture of modern megachurches. Think of it like political Islamism, which shapes the activism of a number of antagonistic fundamentalist movements, from Sunni Wahabis in the Arab world to Shiite fundamentalists in Iran.

Dominionism derives from a small fringe sect called Christian Reconstructionism, founded by a Calvinist theologian named R. J. Rushdoony in the 1960s.

Rushdoony’s most influential idea was the concept of Dominionism, which spread far beyond the Christian Reconstructionist fringe.“‘Dominion theologians,’ as they are called, lay great emphasis on Genesis 1:26–7, where God tells Adam to assume dominion over the animate and inanimate world,” wrote the scholar Garry Wills in his book Under God: Religion and American Politics, describing the influence of the ideology on Pat Robertson.“When man fell, his control over creation was forfeited; but the saved, who are restored by baptism, can claim again the rights given Adam.”
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For believers in Dominionism, rule by non-Christians is a sort of sacrilege—which explains, in part, the theological fury that has accompanied the election of our last two Democratic presidents.“Christians have an obligation, a mandate, a commission, a holy responsibility to reclaim the land for Jesus Christ—to have dominion in civil structures, just as in every other aspect of life and godliness,” wrote George Grant, the former executive director of Coral Ridge Ministries, which has since changed its name to Truth in Action Ministries.“But it is dominion we are after. Not just a voice ... It is dominion we are after. Not just equal time ... World conquest.”
Moe

Indianapolis, IN

#14 Oct 20, 2013
Some more of these idiot's beliefs:

Dominionist leaders, Evangelical Preacher George Grant…

“Christians have an obligation, a mandate, a commission, a holy responsibility to reclaim the land for Jesus Christ — to have dominion in civil structures, just as in every other aspect of life and godliness. But it is dominion we are after. Not just a voice. It is dominion we are after. Not just influence. It is dominion we are after. Not just equal time. It is dominion we are after. World conquest.

That’s what Christ has commissioned us to accomplish. We must win the world with the power of the Gospel. And we must never settle for anything less…

Thus, Christian politics has as its primary intent the conquest of the land — of men, families, institutions, bureaucracies, courts, and governments for the Kingdom of Christ.”

From The Changing of the Guard: Biblical Principles for Political Action by George Grant, published in 1987 by Dominion Press
Ralph

Indianapolis, IN

#15 Oct 20, 2013
Wilipedia:

Anthropocentrism.

Dominion Theology or Dominionism is the idea that Christians should work toward either a nation governed by Christians or one governed by a conservative Christian understanding of biblical law. It is a form of theocracy and is related to theonomy, though it does not necessarily advocate Mosaic law as the basis of government. Prominent adherents of Dominion Theology are otherwise theologically diverse, including the Calvinist Christian Reconstructionism and the charismatic/Pentecostal Kingdom Now theology and New Apostolic Reformation.

Some elements within the mainstream Christian right have been influenced by Dominion Theology authors. Indeed, some writers have applied the term "Dominionism" more broadly to the mainstream Christian right, implicitly arguing that that movement is founded upon a theology that requires Christians to govern over non-Christians. Mainstream conservatives do not call themselves "Dominionists," and the usage has sparked considerable controversy.

Clarkson enumerated the following characteristics shared by all forms of dominionism:[32]

Dominionists celebrate Christian nationalism, in that they believe that the United States once was, and should once again be, a Christian nation. In this way, they deny the Enlightenment roots of American democracy.
Dominionists promote religious supremacy, insofar as they generally do not respect the equality of other religions, or even other versions of Christianity.
Dominionists endorse theocratic visions, insofar as they believe that the Ten Commandments, or "biblical law," should be the foundation of American law, and that the U.S. Constitution should be seen as a vehicle for implementing Biblical principles.
Andrew

Carmel, IN

#16 Oct 20, 2013
Moe I would not clump all Christians in with the likes of Palin, Bachmann, Cruz and Perry. The ones I know do have a heart and they are not about taking over the world as they are. They just want to help people who need it and want to do it by presenting the gospel of Christ to them through there actions. Like feeding and clothing them. Not destroying them. Those who do that are mostly.... not all.... But mostly use the republican platform to do it.
Abdul

Indianapolis, IN

#17 Oct 20, 2013
Hedges article begins:

“There is a desire felt by tens of millions of Americans, lumped into a diffuse and fractious movement known as the Christian right, to destroy the intellectual and scientific rigor of the Enlightenment, radically diminish the role of government to create a theocratic state based on “biblical law,” and force a recalcitrant world to bend to the will of an imperial and “Christian” America. Its public face is on display in the House of Representatives. This ideology, which is the driving force behind the shutdown of the government, calls for the eradication of social “deviants,” beginning with gay men and lesbians, whose sexual orientation, those in the movement say, is a curse and an illness, contaminating the American family and the country.

Once these “deviants” are removed, other “deviants,” including Muslims, liberals, feminists, intellectuals, left-wing activists, undocumented workers, poor African-Americans and those dismissed as “nominal Christians”— meaning Christians who do not embrace this peculiar interpretation of the Bible — will also be ruthlessly repressed. The “deviant” government bureaucrats, the “deviant” media, the “deviant” schools and the “deviant” churches, all agents of Satan, will be crushed or radically reformed. The rights of these “deviants” will be annulled.“Christian values” and “family values” will, in the new state, be propagated by all institutions. Education and social welfare will be handed over to the church. Facts and self-criticism will be replaced with relentless indoctrination.”

His description of this movement, called Dominionism, comports with my own view of what has happened to some Christians in America, who have intertwined Jesus with the Republican Party and its current driving force the “Tea Party”, which is a faux movement established by and led by some of the wealthiest families in our country. Hedges goes on to talk about Senator Ted Cruz, who very quickly has been seen as a “White Knight” for this movement and a hopeful Presidential contender:

“U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz — whose father is Rafael Cruz, a rabid right-wing Christian preacher and the director of the Purifying Fire International ministry — and legions of the senator’s wealthy supporters, some of whom orchestrated the shutdown, are rooted in a radical Christian ideology known as Dominionism or Christian Reconstructionism.

This ideology calls on anointed “Christian” leaders to take over the state and make the goals and laws of the nation “biblical.” It seeks to reduce government to organizing little more than defense, internal security and the protection of property rights. It fuses with the Christian religion the iconography and language of American imperialism and nationalism, along with the cruelest aspects of corporate capitalism. The intellectual and moral hollowness of the ideology, its flagrant distortion and misuse of the Bible, the contradictions that abound within it — its leaders champion small government and a large military, as if the military is not part of government — and its laughable pseudo-science are impervious to reason and fact. And that is why the movement is dangerous.

The cult of masculinity, as in all fascist movements, pervades the ideology of the Christian right. The movement uses religion to sanctify military and heroic “virtues,” glorify blind obedience and order over reason and conscience, and pander to the euphoria of collective emotions. Feminism and homosexuality, believers are told, have rendered the American male physically and spiritually impotent. Jesus, for the Christian right, is a man of action, casting out demons, battling the Antichrist, attacking hypocrites and ultimately slaying nonbelievers.”
Abdul

Indianapolis, IN

#18 Oct 20, 2013
Andrew wrote:
Moe I would not clump all Christians in with the likes of Palin, Bachmann, Cruz and Perry. The ones I know do have a heart and they are not about taking over the world as they are. They just want to help people who need it and want to do it by presenting the gospel of Christ to them through there actions. Like feeding and clothing them. Not destroying them. Those who do that are mostly.... not all.... But mostly use the republican platform to do it.
I think this is the point. Christians have to root these evil doers out themselves because they are playing the "religion card". When you attack them you attack all Christians and eventually human rights.

Most Christians are good or in the least okay. These dominionist devils will be the ruin of us all. Just like Goldwater predicted.
Ralph

Bloomingdale, IN

#19 Oct 20, 2013
Hank wrote:
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Are you retarded?
Can you see what these loonies are doing? Read their manifesto. They are as crazy as the Taliban. IF given the chance, they will topple the government, cause war, kill, poison and lie to promote their cause. It is the theory of total war. Kill, Kill, Kill....They will be the only ones left. The near shut down of the government and economic collapse was not a stunt. This is the type of actions they will do to destroy the USA. They follow their God and not the Constitution. Their God is of the Old Testament who rules with a sword. That love and grace crap has been kicked to the curb.
You may be a Christian, but I wager you are not one of the Dominionist Christians. PEople have got to learn that just because they call themselves "christian" does not mean they are not EVIL!!!
Why yes, I am retireded. Which are the loonies? Don't leave reason for questions.
Carol

Indianapolis, IN

#20 Oct 20, 2013
Ralph wrote:
<quoted text>Why yes, I am retireded. Which are the loonies? Don't leave reason for questions.
Are you trying to conquer the world again with your wit ism .

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