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In Reality

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#1 Nov 1, 2013
If you look at the criminal records of 2 of the 3 arrested for the horrific attack on the family on the northside, it makes one wonder if releasing violent felons after serving 2-3 years is a good idea.

This family is changed forever because of a group of lowlife thugs, and the sad thing is, 2/3 of those arrested for this crime were previously convicted of violent felonies. Perhaps they should have stayed incarcerated. Not only are these offenders returning to their criminal ways, they are returning to neighborhoods to mentor others.

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#2 Nov 1, 2013
No, they should never have been released so soon. What about the people in the Probation, Pardon and Parole Department? Are they really looking at these cases? What did they see in these thugs that said it was ok to release them? Or is it due to overcrowding and they are released because they are the least violent? No matter what, the system is broken. A joke.
Andrew

Indianapolis, IN

#3 Nov 1, 2013
Ask your republican prosecutor. From the crimes and sentences especially Dupree that guy should have still been in prison. He probably did a plea bargain.
In Reality

United States

#4 Nov 1, 2013
Andrew wrote:
Ask your republican prosecutor. From the crimes and sentences especially Dupree that guy should have still been in prison. He probably did a plea bargain.
It has nothing to do with political affiliation. Nice try. But if you want to go down that road we can talk about crime rates by repeat offenders in the deomcratic strongholds like New Orleans, Detroit, or Chicago. No? That's what I thought.
Andrew

Indianapolis, IN

#5 Nov 1, 2013
In Reality wrote:
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It has nothing to do with political affiliation. Nice try. But if you want to go down that road we can talk about crime rates by repeat offenders in the deomcratic strongholds like New Orleans, Detroit, or Chicago. No? That's what I thought.
Go a head I am all for it. And I will stick to just the crime rate places here in Indiana. That is what I thought.
Be real

Beech Grove, IN

#6 Nov 4, 2013
From our personal experience, Duchess is correct. Its a joke. Its ALL about the money. False accusation (later proven) Our kid got $100,000 bond while the illegal indigent also accused got $10,000 bond. He was let go and he ran while we faced atty fee's ,costly legal battles and all other fee's associated with said kids' life ruined. SO, peeps, these losers running free to harm others ,have no money for the County to usurp. Simple as that.
Be real

Beech Grove, IN

#7 Nov 4, 2013
Only people with means get screwed, whether it be by the legal system, the government in general, or by the money poor criminals that are released prematurely onto the unsuspecting people with means.
Its ALL a JOKE.
Be real

Beech Grove, IN

#8 Nov 4, 2013
Poor people think they have it hard, when there are several avenues for them to receive help. We people who have worked and earned our means HAVE NO avenue for help. We're supposed to be happy paying the bill for the help for poor people. Being poor don't make a bad person. Being poor and not using your brain to make better for yourself and stop depending on everyone else, with all these avenues available at the rest of our expense, doesn't make a bad person ; just an incredibly stupid worthless one. I.E usually a criminal.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#9 Nov 4, 2013
The United States has the highest rate of incarceration of any nation on the planet. The government locks up so many people that most convicts are granted early release to ease overcrowding.

Talk of locking them up and throwing away the key sounds good but it doesn't address the root of the problem. To keep guys like this behind bars we need to either be more selective about who to send to prison, or drastically increase taxes to build and maintain more prisons.
Linda Bledsoe

United States

#10 Nov 5, 2013
If they were wealthy, they would have also been out of prison, so I don't buy that only wealthy offenders are incarcerated to the full extent of their sentences. It is true that the legal system is opportunistic and will pull revenue from wealthy offenders, but that is no different than the tax system when it comes down to it. Wealthy people pay more for the same goods and services as their less well-off counterparts. It has been and probably always will be that way. Democrats are ensuring that more and more of the middle class is reclassified as wealthy for purposes of tax collections. I have had fun watching most of them take it without understanding what is happening.
In Reality

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#11 Nov 6, 2013
Pontificating wrote:
The United States has the highest rate of incarceration of any nation on the planet. The government locks up so many people that most convicts are granted early release to ease overcrowding.
Talk of locking them up and throwing away the key sounds good but it doesn't address the root of the problem. To keep guys like this behind bars we need to either be more selective about who to send to prison, or drastically increase taxes to build and maintain more prisons.
Maybe we could start by not using tax dollars to build sports venues.
In Reality

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#12 Nov 6, 2013
Pontificating wrote:
The United States has the highest rate of incarceration of any nation on the planet. The government locks up so many people that most convicts are granted early release to ease overcrowding.
Talk of locking them up and throwing away the key sounds good but it doesn't address the root of the problem. To keep guys like this behind bars we need to either be more selective about who to send to prison, or drastically increase taxes to build and maintain more prisons.
And another thought. If violent criminals weren't given so much space and recreation area while incarcerated, there would be room for many more. Prison overcrowding is something I just don't want to hear about. If you want to see overcrowding, check out a Navy submarine.

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#13 Nov 6, 2013
Pontificating wrote:
The United States has the highest rate of incarceration of any nation on the planet. The government locks up so many people that most convicts are granted early release to ease overcrowding.
Talk of locking them up and throwing away the key sounds good but it doesn't address the root of the problem. To keep guys like this behind bars we need to either be more selective about who to send to prison, or drastically increase taxes to build and maintain more prisons.
Why do you suppose that is? That the USA has such a high rate of incarceration? Is it drugs? Lack of education? The lure of easy money? Lack of proper adult supervision? What is fueling the "thug" mentality?
Linda Bledsoe

United States

#14 Nov 6, 2013
Duchess 29631 wrote:
<quoted text>Why do you suppose that is? That the USA has such a high rate of incarceration? Is it drugs? Lack of education? The lure of easy money? Lack of proper adult supervision? What is fueling the "thug" mentality?
It is cultural. Urban decay is a real thing and it is much more widespread here than in any other country. These thugs feel entitled to do whatever they want and usually end up in prison because their natural instincts are flawed.

Since: Jan 13

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#15 Nov 6, 2013
The thug mentality has been glorified since back in the western days. Prohibition brought corruption to a level never seen before. Boardwalk Empire is a perfect example. Being a bully or getting bullied has always been part of the American culture since the beginning.
Look at the stats of drug offences and that will tell you why so many are locked up. Prison makes more murderers and harden criminals then any one source, it perpetuates the cycle of crime instead of reforming.

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#16 Nov 6, 2013
Linda Bledsoe wrote:
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It is cultural. Urban decay is a real thing and it is much more widespread here than in any other country. These thugs feel entitled to do whatever they want and usually end up in prison because their natural instincts are flawed.
The children in these neighborhoods are starting to see these people as urban legends. Going to prison is "cool". A right of passage. So, how will it end? How does the "take what I want even if it isn't mine" mentality stop? Or will it? Is this the beginning of the end of Indy? A "Detroit" waiting to happen?
Linda Bledsoe

United States

#17 Nov 6, 2013
Duchess 29631 wrote:
<quoted text>The children in these neighborhoods are starting to see these people as urban legends. Going to prison is "cool". A right of passage. So, how will it end? How does the "take what I want even if it isn't mine" mentality stop? Or will it? Is this the beginning of the end of Indy? A "Detroit" waiting to happen?
In my opinion, mandatory execution for any and all felony crime is the best solution. Wipe them clean and start over. I promise you that they will start to reform their behaviors within a generation if they are killed for breaking the laws of society.

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#18 Nov 6, 2013
Linda Bledsoe wrote:
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In my opinion, mandatory execution for any and all felony crime is the best solution. Wipe them clean and start over. I promise you that they will start to reform their behaviors within a generation if they are killed for breaking the laws of society.
While that sounds good to me. Frying them. One problem is the appeal process. They burn many years waiting on death row, costing tax payers for someone that is eventually going to fry. Stop the process.
Robert Wilson

Indonesia

#19 Nov 6, 2013
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#20 Nov 6, 2013
Are the leaders of Indy equipped to take a stand against this violence? Or are they a warm body just earning benefits and a paycheck while waiting for their pension to kick in? Is Indy the next Detroit? I believe the leaders are outnumbered, under staffed, and have no idea how to stop the violence.

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