Northeastside poker club raided; 60 people cited

Full story: The Indianapolis Star

A poker club in a Northeastside industrial park was raided and closed by Indianapolis metropolitan police Tuesday night.
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Laughable

Cincinnati, OH

#1 Mar 14, 2007
Dawgon it ... more revenue lost for the state!
player

Bowling Green, KY

#2 Mar 14, 2007
Texas Holdem is a skill game, not gambling. Are they going to raid bowling alleys next?
hey

Indianapolis, IN

#4 Mar 14, 2007
I need Monroe Gray. I need Glenn Howard. Where is the protection for the "little" man when you need it. Bart do something quick. This club gave all kinds of financial assistance to the community.
Dave

Kokomo, IN

#5 Mar 14, 2007
A politician didn't come to the rescue? I wonder why. Could it be because these people were white? Arrest were made here but none at the peashake... Hmmm... It's racial!
This is fine but they had better raid AND make some arrest at those peashake houses. How about that big yellow one? We all know where it is. You don't need to investigate for a year. Go today!
Uh Oh

Indianapolis, IN

#6 Mar 14, 2007
player wrote:
Texas Holdem is a skill game, not gambling. Are they going to raid bowling alleys next?
Don't forget BINGO night!
OUTRAGED

Kankakee, IL

#7 Mar 14, 2007
Other comments have included references to Monroe Gray and "peashake" houses. Ask any firefighter who has worked for or with Monroe Gray and you'll learn he was lazy and unrespected. Expect no help from him. I imagine the club where I play will be targeted next. I hope they raid it during the Burn Foundation Tournament. They can arrest Chief Longerich and his wife. I guess I'll have to limit my poker playing to home games and Catholic Church Tournaments. Or wait, I can play at the VFW's, Knights of Columbus, or Moose, Elk, and Antelope games. Wait, I've got it, I'll just play in the FOP sponsored tournaments for the World Police and Fire Games. From the mayor on down our city is being run by a bunch of self righteous hypocrites. When the Catholic Church becomes more liberal toward poker playing, than city law enforcement, we've got a crisis of moral judgement.
Confused

Kankakee, IL

#8 Mar 14, 2007
For a year, a marked, City police car sat outside this club in plain view. I spoke to the officer one evening. I knew him. I'm a Lawrence police officer. That was sure some clever surveillance. Do you think the citizens of Indianapolis are actually more concerned about a professionally run poker club, where people pay dues and choose to be a member, than say crimes against persons or property. That squad car could have been used to do some of Bart's "community policing."
RUDY

Indianapolis, IN

#9 Mar 14, 2007
Jails should be full soon. It is, after-all, March. They're probably on to me for running an NCAA pool! I think I have found a loophole that Can be used by all...I'm not running a pool....I am conducting a probability study! Get me off the hook?

Since: Feb 07

indianapolis

#10 Mar 14, 2007
player wrote:
Texas Holdem is a skill game, not gambling. Are they going to raid bowling alleys next?
technically they already have expo bowl was cited ten grand last year i believe because of the 50/50 tickets they were selling. half went to the banquet at end of year and half went to lucky winner whos ticket was pulled. every bowling center in the county had to rework everything.

this is absolute waste of time. same with the room that was busted last year. nothing was wrong except some college kid was spending his tuition. thats his fault. most of these guys play to have fun and consort with other adults. no riots no violence. let it go geeeez

Since: Mar 07

indianapolis

#11 Mar 14, 2007
i know breaking the law is just that, but other than them selves who was hurt? but, drugs are still on the street, and crime is out of control. lets set some goals
What A Joke

AOL

#12 Mar 14, 2007
There are currently eleven illegal numbers racketeering operations (shake houses) in various parts of the Indianapolis black community being ran by black organized crime and local law enforcement is told not to bother them. Yet the best that vice can do is bust a measly Texas Hold 'Em club with a whole 9 tables with white folks sitting at them and TAKES A YEAR TO DO IT!
I really hate crooked cops.
What a joke.
Fast Eddie

AOL

#13 Mar 14, 2007
Sounds to me like this poker club was a wee bit behind on it's payments.
Where's Serpico when you need him?
myjunk

San Francisco, CA

#14 Mar 14, 2007
OUTRAGED wrote:
Other comments have included references to Monroe Gray and "peashake" houses. Ask any firefighter who has worked for or with Monroe Gray and you'll learn he was lazy and unrespected. Expect no help from him. I imagine the club where I play will be targeted next. I hope they raid it during the Burn Foundation Tournament. They can arrest Chief Longerich and his wife. I guess I'll have to limit my poker playing to home games and Catholic Church Tournaments. Or wait, I can play at the VFW's, Knights of Columbus, or Moose, Elk, and Antelope games. Wait, I've got it, I'll just play in the FOP sponsored tournaments for the World Police and Fire Games. From the mayor on down our city is being run by a bunch of self righteous hypocrites. When the Catholic Church becomes more liberal toward poker playing, than city law enforcement, we've got a crisis of moral judgement.
Outraged, I surely hope that by bringing a well respected chief and his wife up you were completely joking. Other than that... goof on monroe all you want.. he is a crook
Don

Victor, NY

#15 Mar 14, 2007
Police must be smoking some of the crack they confiscated because it stated $100 to play. It was only $25 for their rebuy tournament.

They can't even tell the truth. Sad police work. Sad facts that are easily known and yet shown as just plain stupid and irresponsible.
Clear as Mud

Kankakee, IL

#16 Mar 14, 2007
myjunk wrote:
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Outraged, I surely hope that by bringing a well respected chief and his wife up you were completely joking. Other than that... goof on monroe all you want.. he is a crook
Thank you for helping make my point. A well respected Chief and his well respected wife had no qualms about using an Indianapolis Poker Club as the site of their fundraiser tournament.
Indy poker player

Indianapolis, IN

#17 Mar 14, 2007
As usual you can't believe everything you read. The tournament was a $25 tournament with optional rebuys. Players that had been eliminateed from the tournament could play in side games for as little as $50.

By most estimates POKER has been around since 900 A.D. Originating in China Poker is one of the great American pastimes. The game has been enjoyed by presidents, generals, Supreme Court Justices, Members of Congress and average Americans for more than 150 years.

Poker is a game with a predominance of skill. Like chess, poker is a "thinking man's" game which relies on mathematics, psychology and money management.

Poker is a source of charity. In 2006, millions of dollars were raised for local and national charities through poker tournaments. One event in D.C. featuring 15 Members of Congress raised more than $288,000 to fight cancer.

Indiana Code IC 35-45-5-1 defines "Gambling" in the following way:
"Gambling" means risking money or other property for gain, contingent in whole or in part upon lot, chance, or the operation of a gambling device; but it does not include participating in:
(1) bona fide contests of skill, speed, strength, or endurance in which awards are made only to entrants or the owners of entries; or
(2) bona fide business transactions that are valid under the law of contracts.

No one is disputing that there is an element of luck in the game. When a poor player (i.e. lower skill level) makes a bad call and ends up winning the pot that's lucky... but no more so than oily conditions on a bowling lane or high winds make the field goal kicker miss by inches... It happens! But it seems to me that if the law exempts contests of skill and considers them to not fall within the realm of "gambling" then texas hold'em should be exempt as a game of skill. Unlike craps or roulette where the odds are always in favor of the house a skilled poker player will win more often than he loses.

Not long ago on abdul in the morning on 1430 wxnt abdul was interviewing Marion Count Prosecutor Carl Brizzi. A caller asked about this very issue and Mr Brizzi stated that Poker was definitely a game of skill but the legislature has ruled it as gambling. I can't find any evidence to back this up and would be interested if anyone has any such information.

In closing I will say that poker has become the new golf with regard to business networking and closing one of the many poker clubs in indianapolis is not going to make poker go away.

Anyone interested in supporting the rights of poker players should contact the poker players alliance website at pokerplayersalliance.org

Long live POKER
Gimme A Break

Fishers, IN

#18 Mar 14, 2007
Unbelievable. A year to investigate a poker club, with manpower that should have been spent stopping gangs, murders, and drugs. Way to go, City of Indianapolis -- aren't you proud of how wisely you are using your resources? A bunch of non-violent, misdemeanor law breakers off the streets! Boy, do I feel safe now!
Doug M

AOL

#19 Mar 14, 2007
Why would the Indianapolis Police Department Investigate the Club for over a year? That's a lot of man power. Instead of calling the media to alert them of this significant bust, they could have knocked on the front door walked in and asked a few questions.
lollers

United States

#20 Mar 14, 2007
all the crime in that area and they are worried about people playing poker. unreal. those people weren't bothering anyone.
The rest of the story

Indianapolis, IN

#21 Mar 14, 2007
This place was the target of an armed robbery within the last 2 weeks for over $11,000. Ryan gave the police a report. Everyone know about the IPC. It had been "left alone" until a violent crime arose and organizer (RYAN) got the police involved. I love to play poker, but when it gets too big like this, it is only a matter of time before the police need to get involved. I say good job to the IMPD!!

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