14-year-old may face murder charge

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A 14-year-old Eastside boy may become the youngest person to face formal murder charges in Marion County in nearly four years after police named him as the suspect in the shooting death of a neighbor.

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Boo

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#23
Mar 29, 2007
 
It's pretty sad that this child was out in the middle of the night. I agree where are the parents, but only to a point, they can only be there for so many hours of the day. If this child was taught the responsibility he needed up to this point he wouldn't have been out at 1am. He needs to be charged as an adult to the fullest extreme, you do something like this you don't deserve to ever be back on the streets. People say that after time people change and regret what they did as young adults, NOT WITH MURDER! Keep his *** in prison where it belongs, he took a life, he doesn't deserve one himself now or in the future. Everyone as a parent should have the right to disciplin as they see fit to a point instead of facing ridicule from others.
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#24
Mar 29, 2007
 
Can I push the button on the lethal injection machine this time?
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#25
Mar 29, 2007
 
I guess the question that will be posed really, is "Was he able to form mens rae?"
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#26
Mar 29, 2007
 
Adult crimes = adult consequences.
what school

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#27
Mar 29, 2007
 
Did this 14-yr-old killer go to school? What do they have to say about him? What gov't programs was he on (free books, food, meds, etc?) Just what was I paying for (and won't be very soon?)
tjben

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#28
Mar 29, 2007
 
kids these days have no fear of consequences what so ever. I was raised by a single mother who could put the fear in you just by a look. And we were in no ways beaten as children. I knew that I was to ever get into trouble at school or anywhere else I would be punished there and would "get it" again when I got home. Why are parents trying to be their childrens best friends? That is not there job. Kids have enough friends...what they need is someone to correct them when they are wrong and give them discipline. Stop putting your children in front of video games and tv and be parents. Then maybe we won't have 14 year olds solving their disagreements by shooting someone!!!!!

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#29
Mar 29, 2007
 
The widow stated she had seen the perp with the gun before,'holding it and looking at it'. A neighbor alleges the victim was paid in crack for his services.
High risk behavior, and high risk friends, who wouldn't see it coming?
If you see one of your kid's friends with a gun, especially at 14 and on probation already, you REPORT THEM!
This killer would've already been in jail. He didn't deserve to be killed, but they made many choices that put themselves in that position.
Will the folks affected 'live and learn'?
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#30
Mar 29, 2007
 
Brenda wrote:
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This is exactly what happens when a parent's right to discipline is thrown out the window. Thank you so much, bleeding heart liberals. Then, the teachers' and school authorities' right to keep discipline in the schools are done away with. These kids are taught that they will never be held accountable for their actions.
Don't you think it's time we started getting these kids back on the right track with good, old fashioned discipline, and teaching them that they will have to face the consequences of their actions?
This has nothing to with being a liberal. How about we pay more attention on educating our poor so that they can get a better life? How about setting up some outreach programs for kids to go to after school so that they aren't alone (because there parents are out working their minimum wage job)? There are PLENTY of rich republican children with no discipline (prime example are Bush's daughters back in the day- remember the underage drinking?)! Welcome to reality!
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#31
Mar 29, 2007
 
I think there is a little more to this story than we know. First, why is someone accepting a vehicle from a 14 year old? How did that van get there? Did the kid drive it over? I heard that the deceased man did this kind of work for the kid before.

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#33
Mar 29, 2007
 
Finding the sane-In-sane wrote:
WTF!?!?..14yrs.old? Shouldn't this little Mouseketeer be in bed at 1AM in the middle of the week?
You have too charge the Proud Parents of this kid for,EXTREME CHILD NEGLECT.Once we start charging the Parents,You'll see a decline in Violent Crime commited by Kids.Personal Responsability begins in the Home.
Charging the parent would be wrong unless you give parental control back to the parents.If you cannot dish out punishment for fear of jail, then how can they be responsable? Catch22
Just Passing Through

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Mar 29, 2007
 
Fed-up wrote:
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This has nothing to with being a liberal. How about we pay more attention on educating our poor so that they can get a better life? How about setting up some outreach programs for kids to go to after school so that they aren't alone (because there parents are out working their minimum wage job)? There are PLENTY of rich republican children with no discipline (prime example are Bush's daughters back in the day- remember the underage drinking?)! Welcome to reality!
Oh, really? So being poor equates to being violent with the potentiality of using a gun when things donít go your way. Humm. I wonder how many people who grew up poor used guns when things did not go their way. I like the way you try to remove politics while inserting politics into the discussion. Your solutions have not worked, do not work, and will not work. Personal responsibility, getting and education, and moving forward is the only way that anyone will succeed. Blaming others and waiting for handout is a recipe for your current status quo.
CRABBY OLD BAG

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#35
Mar 29, 2007
 
LOCK THAT LITTLE CRETIN UP AND THROW AWAY THE KEY.

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#36
Mar 29, 2007
 
OyVey wrote:
Oh, you mean another african-american committed another violent heinous crime.
I'm just shocked, shocked I tell you.
But, I'm sure in the end, white people will get the blame for this one too.
(He and his family where "economically downtrodden"...)
Partially, they already did. See my previous post.
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#37
Mar 29, 2007
 
I am a single mother with one 4-year old daughter. I discipline her when she needs it and I don't care who is around to see it. I have been looked at wrong in the grocery store for spanking her for acting up...frankly, I don't care. My parents did it to me, and I sure as hell will do it to her. I learned my lesson and she will too. Kids need disciplined...if they don't get it then they won't know right from wrong. I hope this kid doesn't get a slap on the wrist like he would have at home or in school...I hope law enforcement sees the trouble that he could cause 15 years down the road and I hope they do something to stop it...like lock him up! Death is not something to joke about; death is not something to take lightly. This boy took a life away from another family...now he needs to spend the rest of his life thinking about it and maybe he will reach out to others so this sort of thing stops happening because I am tired of turning on the news to hear 10 stories of murder and rape...makes me sick to think we live in a world filled with such hate.
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#38
Mar 29, 2007
 
He knew what he was doing..and it's a shame our kids are living in this way. What a 14 year old need a car anyway, at 14 we wasn't even thinking about a car or a gun. We were actually 14 year olds whom lived or had a child hood.

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#39
Mar 29, 2007
 
Since so many are ready to jump out and charge the parent(s) of this 14 yr old:

I want charges against the family member that allowed this child to take the van for repairs and again to discuss the bill.

I want charges to be filed against the vicitms wife being the parent of a 13 yr old she knew very well this 14 yr old was an unlicensed illegal driver each and everytime she seen him driving but did nothing to report it to authorities.

If paisley post is correct than the victims wife should also be charged with aiding and abedding (sp) a criminal if this child had shown the gun prior and was also on probation.

Let's get all that allowed this child to get to the point he is now a killer, charge them all for their involvement and non-involvement to lead up to this horrible thing.
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Mar 29, 2007
 
I spank wrote:
I am a single mother with one 4-year old daughter. I discipline her when she needs it and I don't care who is around to see it. I have been looked at wrong in the grocery store for spanking her for acting up...frankly, I don't care. My parents did it to me, and I sure as hell will do it to her. I learned my lesson and she will too. Kids need disciplined...if they don't get it then they won't know right from wrong. I hope this kid doesn't get a slap on the wrist like he would have at home or in school...I hope law enforcement sees the trouble that he could cause 15 years down the road and I hope they do something to stop it...like lock him up! Death is not something to joke about; death is not something to take lightly. This boy took a life away from another family...now he needs to spend the rest of his life thinking about it and maybe he will reach out to others so this sort of thing stops happening because I am tired of turning on the news to hear 10 stories of murder and rape...makes me sick to think we live in a world filled with such hate.
I agree with 90% of your post. Except one thing, why should this murderer sit in prison on my tax dollars the rest of his natural life enjoying things I can't even afford? College? Oh yeah you're a murderer but we'll give you that. Cable TV? Yep that too. The only thing this kid needs is a one time injection!
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#41
Mar 29, 2007
 
paisleyposey wrote:
The widow stated she had seen the perp with the gun before,'holding it and looking at it'. A neighbor alleges the victim was paid in crack for his services.
High risk behavior, and high risk friends, who wouldn't see it coming?
If you see one of your kid's friends with a gun, especially at 14 and on probation already, you REPORT THEM!
This killer would've already been in jail. He didn't deserve to be killed, but they made many choices that put themselves in that position.
Will the folks affected 'live and learn'?
Nothing that was done at that address comes as a suprise as well as several others in the neighborhood. The house next to that address use to have visits daily by IPD because the old man who lived there use to have the 12 and 13 year girls do lap dances for him. This use to be a very good neighborhood where several IPD officers grew up years ago. As people died off the neighborhood changed to what it is now. I and several others moved out years ago while the gittin was good because we seen the writing on the wall. Babies are not born evil. They learn to be that way by example.
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#42
Mar 29, 2007
 
I can't believe a 14 year old boy was out at that time, wasn't it a school night? What was his parents doing, how could he be driving? For god sake he is a kid.....We can't keep blaming the parents cause most of the time the kids are acting up when they are away from the parents. I think he should be punished the the highest extent puishable by law but then once more we will be paying for him to live in prison while we are out working our butts off for him. i believe you should be punished in the same way that he shot his victim.

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Mar 29, 2007
 
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Nothing that was done at that address comes as a suprise as well as several others in the neighborhood. The house next to that address use to have visits daily by IPD because the old man who lived there use to have the 12 and 13 year girls do lap dances for him. This use to be a very good neighborhood where several IPD officers grew up years ago. As people died off the neighborhood changed to what it is now. I and several others moved out years ago while the gittin was good because we seen the writing on the wall. Babies are not born evil. They learn to be that way by example.
You are very right. It's a shame, what has happened to that area! When I was 5, we moved out to the east side. My mom was raised near 18th and Bazil. She used to bowl at Northeastwood Bowl. My first "crush/boyfriend" lived off 38th on Dubarry. Remember when Skateway owners, the Bostons, opened Roller Cave? That was so cool! One year when the street machines were in town they had this huge, spontaneous gathering at 21st and Shadeland, thousands were there, some even sitting in the Golden Arches of Micky D's, to watch the cars show their stuff. When the race riot at John Marshall was the scariest thing we thought could happen to us in our area. It was a great place to raise a family, to work. I hate to see it now, what a waste! How sad. The gap has grown. It takes some serious money to live in a safer neighborhood. But how much of this gap is created by life choices, instead of limited opportunity?
There are some brave folks still in these areas, staking out blocks to "protect", refusing to give it up for lost. Pray for them, their safety, and efforts.

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