Illegal immigration bill targets firms

Jan 4, 2008 Full story: www.indystar.com 681

Employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants could lose their right to do business in Indiana under proposed legislation that would make the state's penalties among the stiffest in the country.

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Since: Dec 07

EP now Seattle

#525 Jan 6, 2008
Open Your Eyes wrote:
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Not necessarily -
"Spanish" signifies someone from the country of Spain.
"Hispanic" signifies someone from any Spanish speaking descent.
The poster was using the term "Spanish" to mean those particularly from Spain IMHO.
I do not need this clarification, being that my family is from Spain.

However those who are not familiar with the terminology can use it.
Don

Baltimore, MD

#526 Jan 6, 2008
NO VOTES FOR TRAITORS wrote:
In EVERY election in which you vote, find out every candidates' plans for enforcing our laws and their policy on ILLEGAL ALIENS. If they indicate ANY "exceptions" to DEPORTATION or INCARCERATION, you must NOT vote for them. From the local small town politicians to the president of the U.S., anyone who gives amnesty or forgiveness to CRIMNAL ILLEGALS is a traitor to our country. It is definitely the #1 issue for the future of America as to whether it will be law-abiding and orderly (as in the past) or whether it will be LAWLESS and OUT OF CONTROL, as are so many third world sh+tholes currently. ONLY TRAITORS sympathize with ILLEGALS!
I agree.
Bobby

United States

#527 Jan 6, 2008
Please, it's got to be clear by now except to the most muddle headed people that the "hispanic" groups are essentially race motivated and care about nothing except the further invasion of the United States by their people. What other conclusion is a person supposed to draw when all they cry about is the fate of folks who have illegally broken into this nation and have no legal or moral right to be here.
Bobby

United States

#528 Jan 6, 2008
Not one single question about illegal immigration answered by the Democratic Candidates in the New Hampshire debates. It's surreal. "Illegal aliens, what illegal aliens?" Just another new low, set by the open borders liberals.
Dinah

Monkton, MD

#529 Jan 6, 2008
the 48th ronin wrote:
side bar says......
Bill at a glance
The illegal- immigration bill Sen. Mike Delph, R-Carmel, plans to file next week would:
• Subject an employer to three years of probation if it’s found to have knowingly hired illegal immigrants.
• Revoke a business’s licenses to operate in Indiana if it is found guilty a second time during the probation period.
• Force employers to verify employment eligibility through the federal E-Verify program after Dec. 31, 2008.
• Make it a Class A misdemeanor to transport, shield from detection, conceal or harbor an illegal immigrant. Subsequent offenses would become felonies.
• Puts the attorney general in charge of investigating complaints of businesses violating the law.
• Requires the Superintendent of the State Police to work with the federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement division to obtain training in assisting with the enforcement of federal immigration law.
• Prohibits any unit of government from entering into a contract with a firm that employs an illegal immigrant.
• Requires all hospitals to report total costs of care for illegal immigrants to the Indiana State Department of Health.
— Star report
sounds like a great bill to me!
I agree.
Dinah

Monkton, MD

#530 Jan 6, 2008
jmark40 wrote:
We need more more of this across America. Screw enforcement at the federal level. If they have done their jobs years ago none of this would be necessary.
The feds are too busy playing "King of the Hill"
and "Kingmaker". Long as they have retirement money, what should they care?
Dinah

Monkton, MD

#531 Jan 6, 2008
One wrote:
The law would be unenforceable. The portion of the law that states "knowingly hires" is where the problem lies. Most illegals have forged documants that allow them to get employment. Therefore the empoloyer will have not broken the law. I am suspecting the Senator Delph is using this as a political move due to the property tax issue.
Law is only as enforceable as the people using it.
Bobby

United States

#532 Jan 6, 2008
Dinah wrote:
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I agree.
Title 8 section 1325 of U.S. Immigration law already makes it a crime to harbor, hide, encourage, and transport any foreign national(illegal alien) who has illegally entered this nation. You see, anyone who is violating this, county supervisors, the police, the mayor,the President,etc. are already in violation of "PRESENT" U.S. immigration law and are legally classified as criminals.
Steve S

Indianapolis, IN

#533 Jan 6, 2008
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Steve S

Indianapolis, IN

#534 Jan 6, 2008
Open Your Eyes wrote:
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Translated and Edited for punctuation:
I think that it is good that you want to protect the country, but this is ridiculous. This country is made of immigrants and it is pathetic that illegal people are not given the opportunity to obtain a migratory status and support the economy more. This is really too political and racism, and if the Republicans continue as governors they are going to destroy the economy more. I hope in God that He will protect us and we will have a better future for all of the population of illegal or not illegal ones.
Give me one reason you should be given an opportunity that is not provided to people from other nations that are waiting in line to come to America. Why should you be treated any different?
Jimbo

United States

#535 Jan 6, 2008
Jrdn wrote:
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I don't believe language skills plays a major role in African Americans scoring poorly. I do think living in poverty and many living in lead contaminated dwellings, over refurbished toxic waste dumps, do.
Research published nearly ten years ago, and then quickly buried because it flew in the face of feminist rhetoric, indicated that the strongest predictor of a child's academic and societal success, accounting for all factors, is the presence of a father in the home; and that the strongest predictor of failure and trouble with the law is the absence of one. Roughly half of all black families have no father living in the home.

Since: Jan 07

Indy

#536 Jan 6, 2008
James wrote:
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You errantly think that this is our problem. We can't take everyone in. Go to numbersusa.com and watch the video. Watch it twice so you undertand the point. We need to clean house of all the illegals and limit legal immigration to 180k a year. Are you willing to sacrifice the future of your grandchildren and great grandchildren and the chance for them to grow up in a free, safe and prosperous America to help criminals enter and remain in this country illegally. This is not about today, this is about 25-50 years from now.
Please watch the video and become informed. You notice that the pro illegals never dispute the facts or the population projections. They know they won't be here when it gets really bad and are only concerned with making all the money they can while here.
The only answer is for 99.9% of non-Americans to make it where they are now. We can't handle them all and we can't afford to make every country like ours. Also, many don't want it any better than they have it now. They are satisfied with their current lot in life.
Actually I do care about our population but i guess that I have a heart big enough to understand their situations. No I do not tink that we should let them all in but I am saying that the White man goes to their Country and pays them $20 a week to make some of the clothes that we put on our backs and expects them to be able to live on that kind of money. Yet if an American goes to Honduras they are treated like (Kings or Queens) They are well respected. If they only knew how their family gets treated when they come here to try to make a better life for their selves and their family then maybe they would start hanging them,.

Since: Jan 07

Indy

#537 Jan 6, 2008
What about when the Hail and tornado storms came through and messed alot of Indiana up if it wouldn't have been for those Illegal Aliens that you guys are all griping about then the jobs that they did wouldn't be half way done. I have a friend that has 10 groups of guys that does the work for him and he says that the group of white guys him being white him self take a week to do the job that a group of hispanic guys would do in 1 day and having the same amount of workers. He says that his white workers were to busy smoking pot and drinking vodka, doesn't suprise me none.
TERMINATOR

Keller, TX

#538 Jan 6, 2008
PAYBACK IN TEXAS::::::
We here Mexicans are now spitting in your FOOD if you are white or black. Beware of the restaurants you go to.

“...so I can see you.”

Since: Jul 07

Love Conquers All

#539 Jan 6, 2008
Steve S wrote:
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Give me one reason you should be given an opportunity that is not provided to people from other nations that are waiting in line to come to America. Why should you be treated any different?
This is just a reminder that I did not write the following post... I was merely translating it for Carlos who sent it previously in Spanish. It does not express my own opinions. So if you want to respond, please respond to him.

Thank you.


Translated and Edited for punctuation:

I think that it is good that you want to protect the country, but this is ridiculous. This country is made of immigrants and it is pathetic that illegal people are not given the opportunity to obtain a migratory status and support the economy more. This is really too political and racism, and if the Republicans continue as governors they are going to destroy the economy more. I hope in God that He will protect us and we will have a better future for all of the population of illegal or not illegal ones.
Jrdn

New Almaden, CA

#540 Jan 6, 2008
RainyDay wrote:
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Just a quick clarification Spanish and Hispanics are the same thing. Spaniards are Hispanic.
Hispanic just means coming from a Spanish speaking country or culture.
Hispanic-Latino's refer to south of the border people. Spaniards are true Spanish and are Castilians.

“Seek nonviolent solutions ”

Since: Dec 07

the sticks

#541 Jan 6, 2008
Steve S wrote:
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Give me one reason you should be given an opportunity that is not provided to people from other nations that are waiting in line to come to America. Why should you be treated any different?
Because, Latinos live all around You, their are right here in the good o’ USA, not 'over seas villains’.
Get wise Americans, the bulk of the Mexican People are good, hard working people, they are an asset to this Country. Modernize the system to give all workers cards that verify; all medical check cleared, all criminal background checks clear, all tracking information stored. Then, after seven years of working, learning English, and contributing to American society, upon choice have either American or dual citizenship. The entire system paid for by those wishing to enter, legally and fairly.

“Seek nonviolent solutions ”

Since: Dec 07

the sticks

#542 Jan 6, 2008
Bobby wrote:
<quoted text>
Title 8 section 1325 of U.S. Immigration law already makes it a crime to harbor, hide, encourage, and transport any foreign national(illegal alien) who has illegally entered this nation. You see, anyone who is violating this, county supervisors, the police, the mayor,the President,etc. are already in violation of "PRESENT" U.S. immigration law and are legally classified as criminals.
Good eve Bob, most people need laws on top of laws, to bad they don't pay more attention.
Jrdn

New Almaden, CA

#543 Jan 6, 2008
John wrote:
Sorry, bubbas, but you need to check your figures. In Kalifornia, the hispanic population is over 50%,.
More hype. Hispanics do not comprise 50% of California's population. Not even going to tough the rest of your post, no point just more of the same.
Jrdn

New Almaden, CA

#544 Jan 6, 2008
Open Your Eyes wrote:
<quoted text>
Not necessarily -
"Spanish" signifies someone from the country of Spain.
"Hispanic" signifies someone from any Spanish speaking descent.
The poster was using the term "Spanish" to mean those particularly from Spain IMHO.
Fwiw, people from Spain are Castilians and speak Castilian Spanish, the only true Spanish. People from south of the border speak a Castilian dialect mixed with native language and is NOT true Spanish by a long shot.

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