See, Indiana still consider a very racist state.....

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Since: Nov 07

Bronx, New York

#1 Nov 3, 2007
Well, moving here I was quite bias because I thought Indiana was all fields and cornfield and I rarely heard of it out east. When I arrived in Indianapolis my perception was much different because the city was a little larger than I expected. It just took me a year to notice how far behind Indiana/Indianapolis is behind the rest of the country and how racism still exist here.

Of course not every person of European descent is racist, but I have met a stunning handful who are openly racist. Its not just racist to african americans its also to the hispanic community. Like for instance I hate the ignorance when somebody calls me Mexican, but I am Dominican. It just seems like Hoosiers cannot get it through their heads. Not everybody is a Mexican. It would be like calling somebody from England an Italian. Of course if somebody said that they would be considered ignorant here.

Also, not every african american is a "thug" or a "gangster". I've been seeing a lot of posting on the board with a lot of racial slurs that just fuels my theory. THis is a main reason why Indiana will and can never progress. Indiana wonders why they can not have certain things here, is because too much still hatred still exist.

Just look what even ESPN.com thinks....."A state with a sketchy racial reputation was freshly maligned." http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story...

P.S.-and I am sure some coward will write another racist comment behind a computer. What I hate most about a racist is how they hide and smile in front of your face and talk about you behind your back. Every state considers Indiana a racist state for a reason (Well the states that are not racist themselves).

Since: Nov 07

Bronx, New York

#2 Nov 3, 2007
It is on foxsports.net if you archive things from like 2004, 05, 06
Jeff In Indy

Noblesville, IN

#3 Nov 4, 2007
For me, it's not a racial thing as much as a generational thing. Haven't seen many 60 year olds with their pants down below their crack, wearing hubcaps around their necks, with an AK-47 in their clown car. If you want respect...earn it, don't demand it. Stupidity comes in all colors!

Since: Nov 07

Bronx, New York

#4 Nov 5, 2007
Exactly! You cannot just generalize a specific ethnicity though. Because just as much as I see african american youth with their pants down and wearing this ridiculous outfits, I also see a prominent number of caucasian youth also.

Indiana should just think about why people do not like to market big events here, or why entertainers do not travel here much either. A lot of racism still exist towards not only african americans, but towards everyone. Indiana is very ignorant and uneducated with different ethnicities and should enroll classes to educate youth to avoid stupidity like a lot of their forefathers did.
Tired

Pierceton, IN

#5 Nov 28, 2007
I met a very nice man online 4 years ago who lives in Indiana. Fast forward now--we have one child and are married. He had a new house here, so I moved to his small town with him that is 20 miles from South Bend. I looked up the racial stats and the town I live in is 98.4% white. I am black and my hubby is white. I was born and raised in Ohio and I tell you, Indiana is the most backwards state I have ever seen. I am a college educated black woman and I get so many looks from whites AS IF blacks cannot be intelligent and/or well spoken. I have seen and faced racism here that I have never seen before in my 40 years of life.

There is a HUGE black underclass in South Bend. I have yet to see any black professionals in the city, etc. It's very disheartening and from the looks of some of these uneducated hicks, I can see why no self-respecting, educated black person would want to live here.

I love our house, but I am very discoueraged living here. Property taxes are astronomical, racism is rampant AND I have jobs wanting to offer a college grad 10.00 an hour. I love my husband, but I absolutely hate this state with a passion and if the housing market wasn't so bad, we would have sold our house and moved a long time ago!

I once had a co-worker who told me the holy trinity here is beer, football and nascar. I think he's right!

How amazing that there is so much hate for people of color, but they sure are obsessed and LOVE those BLACK Notre Dame football players! Hypocrites.

I'm getting out of here in a year or so once we can sell our house.
Tired

Pierceton, IN

#6 Nov 28, 2007
Jeff In Indy wrote:
For me, it's not a racial thing as much as a generational thing. Haven't seen many 60 year olds with their pants down below their crack, wearing hubcaps around their necks, with an AK-47 in their clown car. If you want respect...earn it, don't demand it. Stupidity comes in all colors!
Jeff, why is it that all black people are labeled for what a few do? Neither my family nor myself are any of the things you described above.

I really wish generalizing morons for you would stop painting all black people with the same brush. It's enough already!

Furthermore, more WHITE KIDS purchase that gangster hip hop crap than anyone else does. If you want to be angry because rappers are rich, then get mad at your kids! Your money you give them for allowance is why the rappers are rich.

Hate to bust you and Bill O'Rielly's bubble, but most black people live our lives and want the same things that any other race of people want out of life.

“I'M RIGHT, YOU ARE WRONG”

Since: Feb 07

All over

#7 Nov 28, 2007
Not all of Indiana is represented in the South Bend area. There are small towns in every state that can be comparable to where you live. Hicks are prevalent all of the country. I know this because I have lived in MANY states. NASCAR idiots are everywhere, not just Indiana.

Indianapolis is a bright, clean and vibrant city with a cultured and educated population. Indiana is home to the best engineering school in the country, Rose Hulman, who beats any CA school or MIT any day. Not to mention many other great colleges and universities.

And to your point about the large black underclass, that is of no one's fault but their own. Moot point.

While I am sorry about the racism you have faced, I take offense to you grouping Indiana in one broad category of racist idiots.

Oh, and Indiana was rated as the most affordable state to live in, I think for the second year in a row.
Tired wrote:
I met a very nice man online 4 years ago who lives in Indiana. Fast forward now--we have one child and are married. He had a new house here, so I moved to his small town with him that is 20 miles from South Bend. I looked up the racial stats and the town I live in is 98.4% white. I am black and my hubby is white. I was born and raised in Ohio and I tell you, Indiana is the most backwards state I have ever seen. I am a college educated black woman and I get so many looks from whites AS IF blacks cannot be intelligent and/or well spoken. I have seen and faced racism here that I have never seen before in my 40 years of life.
There is a HUGE black underclass in South Bend. I have yet to see any black professionals in the city, etc. It's very disheartening and from the looks of some of these uneducated hicks, I can see why no self-respecting, educated black person would want to live here.
I love our house, but I am very discoueraged living here. Property taxes are astronomical, racism is rampant AND I have jobs wanting to offer a college grad 10.00 an hour. I love my husband, but I absolutely hate this state with a passion and if the housing market wasn't so bad, we would have sold our house and moved a long time ago!
I once had a co-worker who told me the holy trinity here is beer, football and nascar. I think he's right!
How amazing that there is so much hate for people of color, but they sure are obsessed and LOVE those BLACK Notre Dame football players! Hypocrites.
I'm getting out of here in a year or so once we can sell our house.

“I'M RIGHT, YOU ARE WRONG”

Since: Feb 07

All over

#8 Nov 28, 2007
If you would like to make a well stated argument, it would help if you used correct grammar. It should read, "considered" not "consider."
AR Moreland wrote:
Well, moving here I was quite bias because I thought Indiana was all fields and cornfield and I rarely heard of it out east. When I arrived in Indianapolis my perception was much different because the city was a little larger than I expected. It just took me a year to notice how far behind Indiana/Indianapolis is behind the rest of the country and how racism still exist here.
Of course not every person of European descent is racist, but I have met a stunning handful who are openly racist. Its not just racist to african americans its also to the hispanic community. Like for instance I hate the ignorance when somebody calls me Mexican, but I am Dominican. It just seems like Hoosiers cannot get it through their heads. Not everybody is a Mexican. It would be like calling somebody from England an Italian. Of course if somebody said that they would be considered ignorant here.
Also, not every african american is a "thug" or a "gangster". I've been seeing a lot of posting on the board with a lot of racial slurs that just fuels my theory. THis is a main reason why Indiana will and can never progress. Indiana wonders why they can not have certain things here, is because too much still hatred still exist.
Just look what even ESPN.com thinks....."A state with a sketchy racial reputation was freshly maligned." http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story...
P.S.-and I am sure some coward will write another racist comment behind a computer. What I hate most about a racist is how they hide and smile in front of your face and talk about you behind your back. Every state considers Indiana a racist state for a reason (Well the states that are not racist themselves).
Born and raised IN girl

United States

#10 May 3, 2008
Ok, first of all, you are all grosely overgeneralizing things here. That's what causes racism isn't it? I'm pretty sure a general definition of racism would include something to the extent of using a stereotype (a generalization of a certain group of people) in order to judge or act against a person or group of people based on their race. If you look at it that way, everyone who said anything about black people, white people, or hispanic people... YOU ARE ALL RACIST! Stop looking at how you perceive others perception of you and start doing something about it. Sure, there are a lot of racists in Indiana. There are a lot of racists all over the country. Pennsylvania hates everyone that isn't white. California hates Mexicans. Florida hates Cubans. And there are black people all over this country who hate white people. IT HAPPENS. While i'm not saying that it's ok to be racist, what I am saying is that it's ridiculous for people to write blogs about. Especially when you are doing the same thing as those "racists" you talk about. When you say "Like for instance I hate the ignorance when somebody calls me Mexican, but I am Dominican. It just seems like Hoosiers cannot get it through their heads." you are stereotyping people from Indiana just like these people are stereotyping you. People need to learn that the idea of "an eye for an eye" is just making things worse with racial tension in the US. If you talk shit on them and they talk shit on you... nothing is going to get better. Nothing is going to change. There are going to continue to be white people hating blacks, hispanics hating black people, blacks hating asians... Take your pick of the races hating eachother, it will continue to happen with things like this blog talks about.
If you truly think there is a problem in Indiana, do something to change it. Research the problem. Learn why it is happening. Then... DO SOMETHING TO FIX IT. Instead of pissing and moaning on a computer somewhere, do some psychological research. Go to Notre Dame and be that black person that makes the ignorant Irish fans like black people for a different reason than touchdowns and rushing yards.
Racism and all types of ignorance and hate are most typically caused by a lack of education. Find a way, instead of hating the people that you perceive to hate you, teach them reasons why blacks, whites, hispanics, asians and all human beings were truly all created equal and deserve a chance to make their own first impressions on people based on their abilities, not their race. White people aren't all bad. People from Indiana aren't all bad. Help fix the problem of the select few that are.
Oh, and by the way, what is the research on the "sketychy racial reputation" of Indiana. Yes, Evansville did have a huge number of Klansmen. Yes, this did cause some schools to lose the chance to recruit some atheletes because they would never want to go to a place where the KKK could possibly still be harassing them. On the other hand, look at how many black people are moving into the state. There is great money to be had in good jobs. There are excellent atheletic scholarships that are given to a high percentage of black students EVERY year. Do me a favor and do some empirical research before you try to put forth opinion as fact.
Wasabi Kimchee Jigeh

United States

#12 Jun 29, 2008
I'm an Asian person, mixed Jap, Corean, male from Seattle, Washington area. I have lived most of my life on the West Coast, in Hawaii and a stint in Texas.
But boy is Indiana (Indianapolis to be specific) a bit of a cultural shock.
There are pros and cons of Indy (short for Indianapolis). I don't know much about the rest of the state of Indiana because I don't have the time to venture outside of Indy. Except for one instance where I drove to Urbana, Illinois to visit friends at the Univ. of Illinois and drove past the western rural parts of Indiana.
The good side of Indy is that it's very clean (compared to LA, DC, NYC), there is hardly any traffic, people are down-to-earth and honest (unlike California where people are a-holes, jerks, fakes, superficial), and cost of living expense is cheaper here compared to my living expenses while living in Lost Angeles. Even the "ghetto" or bad areas of Indy are clean and waaaayyy nicer than slum areas I've seen in NYC, LA or DC.
Even the African-American peeps here are friendly and aren't blatantly a-holes and racist like the ones I've met in NYC or DC areas.
I also like the fact that there are no long lines at the movie theaters or at the store. And if there are long lines, the employees are kind enough to open another register to prevent you from waiting. It's all about the "hoosier hospitality" here.
However, the rent cost in the downtown area apartments tend to be in the rip-off price range. I pay around $850 for a one-bedroom apartment. The managers at my apartment are rude and unfriendly.
What I dislike about Indy is that it's too spread out. Reminds me of LA or Phoenix, AZ. public transportation here is lousy!! I love the public rail system in Seattle, or the BART subway/train in San Francisco. I have never been on the IndyGo bus. It looks so ghetto. I really really wish Indy would have a light-rail system. That would be so f--king awesome taking a light rail train from downtown to Carmel!! So all in all, in order to get around Indy, you need a car. Kind of like travelling around LA.
There are also tornado warnings during the spring and summer season. I have never experienced these mother nature furies before. The thunder storms here are also very scary! Man, lighting striking the ground every 5 seconds while the wind knocks down tree branches and thunder roaring like crazy!!.
In addition, there are no supermarkets in the downtown area! I have to drive out to greenwood or to the west side of town or to the 38th street area to do my grocery shopping. Or at least drive 10 miles to find a nearby supermarket to do grocery shopping. And if I want to shop at Castleton Sq mall, I have to drive 17 miles to get there from the downtown area.
Wasabi Kimchee Jigeh

United States

#13 Jun 29, 2008
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Other than Indy, I have only driven westward into Illinois passing Brownsburg and Convington and the rest of the small rural towns along I-74 going into Illinois. Yeah, seems like the rest of Indiana is just farm land, plain, dull. Some parts also reeked of cow sh_t.
In terms of racism, I can sense it amongst a lot of the local white people. But it's not blatant racism where they call you racial names. It's more discreet/indirect racism, at least in my experience in dealing with them.
It's more of the "I don't want to talk to you because you're not white" attitude that some of my classmates tend to have. It's true. Like some of them would not say "hi" to me in the hallways during the beginning of my semester last year. Some of them stil don't say hi to me, but I couldn't care less about them. And amongst my classmate, it seems like the white students like to study together and won't even give me advice.

I also noticed that the white students in my class like to HIGHLY critcize minority (i.e. Asians, afr-americans, latinos, arabs, east Indians, etc) professors along with some of the white female professors.

So basically, the racism I get is the indirect kind of racism, like I've said, where the whites usually don't want to talk to you if you're a minority. I even get rude responses from some of my professors, but not all of them are like that. Some of them are friendly, and even have been to Corea or the Philippines for military service in the past.
In addition, I have been to some of the restaurants in the greenwood area where the waitress would talk to me in a rude manner. Eck. Greenwood seems like a "hickish" part of Indy. I prefer Carmel or Fishers.
And what's more hilarious about some of the ignorant people in Indiana is that they think I'm Chinese. So everything that's East Asian or that term I hate hearing "Oriental" is "Chinese" or Japanese in their minds. LOL.
Anyhow, I would rather live in Indy rather than in crap cities like L.A.
But I really miss Seattle because of the lifestyle, my friends and the people.
Haha Hehe

Anderson, IN

#14 Jun 30, 2008
Indiana is such a boring slice of hell. So conservative, boring people with lame/boring/monotonous personalities, farmer joes, people with no ambitions. Hehehe.
Oh, and neighboring states like Michigan, Illinois and Ohio have better things to do than boring Indiana. Like Illinois has Chicago and the scenery is so much better in Illinois. I find Illinois people to be very tolerant and friendly. Ohio has great awesome amusement parks. Unlike lame ol' holiday world in ho ho ho, Indiana. Michigan is also better in terms of industry, academics/research, football team, basketball team and is the state with the longest fresh water coastline. Indiana is just a slice of boring hell that should be nuked.
Augusten B

Marysville, OH

#15 Jun 30, 2008
Haha Hehe wrote:
Indiana is such a boring slice of hell. So conservative, boring people with lame/boring/monotonous personalities, farmer joes, people with no ambitions. Hehehe.
Oh, and neighboring states like Michigan, Illinois and Ohio have better things to do than boring Indiana. Like Illinois has Chicago and the scenery is so much better in Illinois. I find Illinois people to be very tolerant and friendly. Ohio has great awesome amusement parks. Unlike lame ol' holiday world in ho ho ho, Indiana. Michigan is also better in terms of industry, academics/research, football team, basketball team and is the state with the longest fresh water coastline. Indiana is just a slice of boring hell that should be nuked.
Wait, what about Kansas? Iowa? Texas? Don't forget the Carolina's, and the Dakota's! They need some love too.

Like anyone cares what an idiot like you thinks anyway.
weaver

Noblesville, IN

#16 Jun 30, 2008
Haha Hehe wrote:
Indiana is such a boring slice of hell. So conservative, boring people with lame/boring/monotonous personalities, farmer joes, people with no ambitions. Hehehe.
Oh, and neighboring states like Michigan, Illinois and Ohio have better things to do than boring Indiana. Like Illinois has Chicago and the scenery is so much better in Illinois. I find Illinois people to be very tolerant and friendly. Ohio has great awesome amusement parks. Unlike lame ol' holiday world in ho ho ho, Indiana. Michigan is also better in terms of industry, academics/research, football team, basketball team and is the state with the longest fresh water coastline. Indiana is just a slice of boring hell that should be nuked.
Go ahead and move to Detroit and try to get a job in so called better industry.Oh and Illinois cornfields look pretty much like Indiana cornfields.Chicago has some interesting entertainment but is also,with the possible exception of LA,the gang capitol of the US.Much of Indiana is closer to Chicago than most of Illinois.Hopefully when you do nuke boring old Indiana you will do your best Slim Pickens immitation and ride along with the bomb.
Indiana people R dummies

Anderson, IN

#18 Jul 2, 2008
Illinois is definitely much better with Chicago, and other cities that contribute much to the reputation of Illinois. Plus Illinois is more progressive and liberal than old-school backward Indiana. Even conservative Kentucky is MUCH BETTER than ugly cornfield Indiana. And IU's basketball is so over-rated! Hahaha! I hate living in Indiana. I want to go back to New York or Colorado where I used to live. The only live-able place in Indiana would be Valpraiso or South Bend indiana.
weaver wrote:
<quoted text>Go ahead and move to Detroit and try to get a job in so called better industry.Oh and Illinois cornfields look pretty much like Indiana cornfields.Chicago has some interesting entertainment but is also,with the possible exception of LA,the gang capitol of the US.Much of Indiana is closer to Chicago than most of Illinois.Hopefully when you do nuke boring old Indiana you will do your best Slim Pickens immitation and ride along with the bomb.
Len Hearts Arnette

Marysville, OH

#19 Jul 2, 2008
Indiana people R dummies wrote:
Illinois is definitely much better with Chicago, and other cities that contribute much to the reputation of Illinois. Plus Illinois is more progressive and liberal than old-school backward Indiana. Even conservative Kentucky is MUCH BETTER than ugly cornfield Indiana. And IU's basketball is so over-rated! Hahaha! I hate living in Indiana. I want to go back to New York or Colorado where I used to live. The only live-able place in Indiana would be Valpraiso or South Bend indiana.
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Well, stamp your feet really hard, hold your breath, and tell mommy and daddy you won't stop until they move you back!
mytl8

Noblesville, IN

#20 Jul 2, 2008
Indiana people R dummies wrote:
Illinois is definitely much better with Chicago, and other cities that contribute much to the reputation of Illinois. Plus Illinois is more progressive and liberal than old-school backward Indiana. Even conservative Kentucky is MUCH BETTER than ugly cornfield Indiana. And IU's basketball is so over-rated! Hahaha! I hate living in Indiana. I want to go back to New York or Colorado where I used to live. The only live-able place in Indiana would be Valpraiso or South Bend indiana.
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Keep picking up aluminum cans off the sides of the road and some day you will be able to buy a bus ticket to Richmond,from there you can walk to Ohio and at least you won't have to live in Indiana anymore.While in Richmond stop and get a refidgerator box, or as you call it an affordable housing unit.You will need it.
Arnette Brown

United States

#21 Jul 3, 2008
Yeah, well I have met plenty of racist black people, so there you go. It is now black people causing racism. The race merchants, Sharpton, Jackson and now Obama want to keep things stirred up for their own financial gain. With that going, they have set race relations back to 1965. Have fun black people with the race war you have reignited.
edd

Indianapolis, IN

#22 Jul 3, 2008
We should all have one common goal and that is to stop the Chemtrails.
Indiana people R dummies

Anderson, IN

#23 Jul 4, 2008
Haha. It's more like you who's picking up cans on the street loser. I'm a financial advisor working for chase bank in downtown india-no-place. So don't get jealous of me suckers. I used to live in up state new york, and NY is definitely better than this ugly slice of hell. This city is shitty. I don't know where richmond is, and I don't care to catch the sad a$$ bus systems in india-no-place. Why don't you live in shoe box you fagget.
muttl8 wrote:
<quoted text>Keep picking up aluminum cans off the sides of the road and some day you will be able to buy a bus ticket to Richmond,from there you can walk to Ohio and at least you won't have to live in Indiana anymore.While in Richmond stop and get a refidgerator box, or as you call it an affordable housing unit.You will need it.

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