Superior Essex to close plant in Vincennes

Full story: The Indianapolis Star

Some 250 area workers will be losing their jobs at Superior Essex Inc. as the plant is scheduled to be closed by the end of the year, the Vincennes Sun-Commercial reports.
Comments
21 - 40 of 41 Comments Last updated Oct 20, 2013
Blame Unions

Indianapolis, IN

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#21
Jan 25, 2008
 
Tom Johnson wrote:
<quoted text>
Whatever makes you think the union has any control over management decisions. Union agreements only cover working conditions and wages during the life of the agreement, has no control over anything else.
You have apparently never been involved with unions
The Unions caused this problem. They want high paying jobs for assembly jobs. They want job security, they want pensions, they want, they want. For what? What concessions do the unions give the companies? The concession for the company is to close the plant and move it to Mexico, China, India, Thialand, etc. The company cannot be competitive with overseas companies, due to Union greed. There is no job security, no more pensions, no more $40/hour + benefits jobs. Not for the assembly worker....sorry. I come from a union family. Gone are the days of those types of jobs. In this global economy, only the fit survive, not the fat and happy union jobs...
Knoxtucky

Indianapolis, IN

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#22
Jan 25, 2008
 
JPS wrote:
Here we go again! This is another reason why unions are a thing of the past. They are moving the work because the jobs are non-union in TN and Mexico. Way to go Union! Another company bites the dust in Indiana...
Or you could look at it another way. The workers in Tennessee are non-union so they'll make 10 dollars an hour with less benefits. If we could ever repeal taft-hartley and get rid of these so called "right to work" laws, we could improve the rights of workers all over the US and not have our employers flee to states where they can better exploit workers.
Knoxtucky

Indianapolis, IN

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#23
Jan 25, 2008
 
Blame Unions wrote:
<quoted text>
The Unions caused this problem. They want high paying jobs for assembly jobs. They want job security, they want pensions, they want, they want. For what? What concessions do the unions give the companies? The concession for the company is to close the plant and move it to Mexico, China, India, Thialand, etc. The company cannot be competitive with overseas companies, due to Union greed. There is no job security, no more pensions, no more $40/hour + benefits jobs. Not for the assembly worker....sorry. I come from a union family. Gone are the days of those types of jobs. In this global economy, only the fit survive, not the fat and happy union jobs...
These were 14-15 dollar an hour jobs and if you'd ever been to an Essex plant or smelled one of the employees who worked there, you'd see that they earn every penny. It's not an easy job and it's performed under uncomfortable conditions.
American

United States

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#24
Jan 25, 2008
 
More Mitchie magic.
Your Rectal Itch Mitch

Indianapolis, IN

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#25
Jan 25, 2008
 
Where am I? Hey...look! New jobs at Honda in Greensburg.
Unions

Avon, IN

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#26
Jan 25, 2008
 
Knoxtucky wrote:
<quoted text>
These were 14-15 dollar an hour jobs and if you'd ever been to an Essex plant or smelled one of the employees who worked there, you'd see that they earn every penny. It's not an easy job and it's performed under uncomfortable conditions.
Mexicans would take it for less. People want cheaper products. You have a high school education. Do the math.
Tom Johnson

United States

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#27
Jan 25, 2008
 
Unions wrote:
<quoted text>
Mexicans would take it for less. People want cheaper products. You have a high school education. Do the math.
And just what is your claim to fame? I presume you are one of those that is either just mouthy or one of those who think, you aint nothin unless you have a college degree, well let me say this, those that built this country were lucky to have an 8th grade education, just having paper work and a fancy resume, doesnt get the job done, nor does it guarantee common sense or success. Who is supporting you?
Tom Johnson

United States

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#28
Jan 25, 2008
 
Blame Unions wrote:
<quoted text>
The Unions caused this problem. They want high paying jobs for assembly jobs. They want job security, they want pensions, they want, they want. For what? What concessions do the unions give the companies? The concession for the company is to close the plant and move it to Mexico, China, India, Thialand, etc. The company cannot be competitive with overseas companies, due to Union greed. There is no job security, no more pensions, no more $40/hour + benefits jobs. Not for the assembly worker....sorry. I come from a union family. Gone are the days of those types of jobs. In this global economy, only the fit survive, not the fat and happy union jobs...
I wonder who is supporting you.
Sara

United States

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#29
Jan 25, 2008
 
Hows that union working out for ya?
Bryan

Shelbyville, IN

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#30
Jan 25, 2008
 
Tom Johnson wrote:
<quoted text>
Whatever makes you think the union has any control over management decisions. Union agreements only cover working conditions and wages during the life of the agreement, has no control over anything else.
You have apparently never been involved with unions
One time I did work in a union shop and I quit to go make more money and get better benefits in a non-union shop.

Since: Feb 08

Columbus, IN

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#31
Feb 12, 2008
 
Well I think that is really horrible , I know alot of people that worked out there and had for many years!
My brother-in-laws brother worked out there for as long as I have known him and I was 10 when my sister married my brother-in-law I am now 46..so that is at least 36 yrs that he worked there what happens to him and his family now?
Will those who have worked out there get compensation of any kind?

“EMPC ”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#32
Feb 14, 2008
 
PeanutGallery wrote:
All the good jobs are going to Mexico, AND all the Mexicans coming here for jobs?
Someone explain this to me, please...
I believe the companies that go to Mexico pay very poor wages. Less than a dollar an hour and hire mostly women. Mexicans can come to the US and make minimum wage which is 5 times what they can make in Mexico and basically are men that canít get work in the factories. But what is even more ridiculas is most companies that moved to Mexico years ago are now moving to China and Asia because the labor is cheaper there and no regulation by their Governments.
I saw on TV that the penny and the nickel are in trouble. It cost the government 2 cents to make a penny and a dime to make a nickel.
Maybe we should have China make our money for us also?
SXVin

Columbus, IN

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#33
Feb 18, 2008
 
Unions wrote:
<quoted text>
Mexicans would take it for less. People want cheaper products. You have a high school education. Do the math.
Pretty slick, assuming all employees at the Essex plant only have High School educations. They are throwing "higher educated" company people out the door just like the production workers. I know first had because I work there... Thanks for the offensive comments...
NinerSteve

Bath, ME

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#34
Feb 19, 2008
 
Ross Perot is a genius and few were listening.
With 5 billion potential consumers in the world, the 300 million in the US are but chump change to a souless Globalist.
reguardless of fault

Columbus, IN

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#35
Feb 21, 2008
 
Reguardless of whom is at fault here the simple fact remains that the plant is closing and taking with it the income that so many people and their families depend upon. Instead of pointing fingers, maybe we should be asking ourselves what will happen to the towns like vincennes where employment like Essex is disappearing at an alarming rate and what can we do as a communty to stop it. Case in point: Bicknell.
I offer my prayers and thoughts to those that are going to be affected by this. And mark my word if you are living in or around the Knox County area, you will feel the impact of Essex closing whether you feel indirectly or directly.
Debbie

Aberdeen, OH

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#36
Mar 24, 2008
 
If you watch the movie called "Bordertown" it really explains how great NAFTA is. THey pay these women $5 a day to do slave labor, and many of them end up raped and killed on their way home and nobody gives a crap.

My husband is one of the workers in Vincennes and it really sucks that they can just send these jobs to Mexico. Thanks Clinton!!! Most of them make more like $20 bucks an hour and Vincennes officials say they vow to find jobs for our people. Yea, right. There are no jobs here that pay what Essex was paying. So now we have to move, find new jobs, new home and 'hope' we make it.
What

Somerset, KY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#37
Mar 24, 2008
 
PeanutGallery wrote:
All the good jobs are going to Mexico, AND all the Mexicans coming here for jobs?
Someone explain this to me, please...
Actually I've heard talk around here of a couple that are thinking of coming back now. Saying the taxes situation in Mexico is really not getting much better than it was here.
I think Fruit of the Loom was one of them.

Just getting too hard for corporations to earn a decent 300% profit margin these days.

Shucks.:(
What

Somerset, KY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#38
Mar 24, 2008
 
And correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Mexico have a labor law where the employer has to participate the employees in a percentage of profit sharing?

That's probably really chapping their backsides.
cards

Vincennes, IN

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#39
Apr 8, 2009
 
Tom Johnson wrote:
<quoted text>
Whatever makes you think the union has any control over management decisions. Union agreements only cover working conditions and wages during the life of the agreement, has no control over anything else.
You have apparently never been involved with unions
UAW
consolation

Bruington, VA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#40
Jun 12, 2009
 
how sad that many former us corporate managers who moved to mexico years ago have been experiencing some surprise cultural benefits from their host nation

many execs are being kidnapped or being threatened

also many corporations are forced to pay protection money to mexican drug cartels - some to the tune of $9,000 per month and more

extortion abounds, the water is polluted, the beaches contain deadly levels of e coli, the land is polluted with precursor meth labs' chemicals, and the violence can bring death to anybody

and they thought the unions expected too much1

Tell me when this thread is updated: (Registration is not required)

Add to my Tracker Send me an email

Type in your comments below
Name
(appears on your post)
Comments
Characters left: 4000
Type the numbers you see in the image on the right:

Please note by clicking on "Post Comment" you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

10 Users are viewing the Indianapolis Forum right now

Search the Indianapolis Forum:
Title Updated Last By Comments
Israel wants all of the middle east now 10 hr Tommy 5
Who do you support for U.S. House in Indiana (D... (Oct '10) 12 hr lmfao 89
Carmel doctors arrested for pushing prescriptio... 12 hr LowDownDirty 2
Greg Zoeller and Indianapolis Colts fight presc... 15 hr local landlord 1
Let's wager on Black Expo violence 16 hr Disdude 2
Beth hubartt Thu Lol 1
I Still Love You!! Thu LowDownDirty 7
•••
•••
•••
•••

Indianapolis Jobs

•••
Enter and win $5000
•••
•••

Indianapolis People Search

Addresses and phone numbers for FREE

•••

Indianapolis News, Events & Info

Click for news, events and info in Indianapolis
•••

Personal Finance

Mortgages [ See current mortgage rates ]
•••