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Mountain Man

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#21 Nov 13, 2010
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Freedom Rider

United States

#22 Nov 13, 2010
Page 15 wrote:
{From Page 15 of The Report}
Lt. Stephens and Officer Perkins had originally been paged by communications to meet Officer Bisard at Methodist Hospital for the blood draw, at 12:20 hours and 12:26 hours, respectively. However, with the decision to send Bisard to MOHC, Lt. Stephens changed his location to MOHC (at 12:31 hours) and met Bisard there.
My question (because the report FAILS to mention) who made that decision, and why?
It's obvious that Communications was aware of the CORRECT protocol but...Suddenly,the correct protocol was subverted. All of those professional crash investigators and brass at the scene.....Not a one of them was aware of the correct protocol?
I'm hopeful the families involved will not capitulate and "just accept" the money offered by the State. The people involved need to be on the stand and under oath--not just in a criminal court---but a civil court as well,and made to answer for the SERIES of "supposed" snafus.
The report is more damning than it attempts absolve IMPD of malfeasance.
I guess they really think we're all so gullible.
According to IndyStar 11-11-10 Story entilted "WHAT WENT WRONG" "Conflicting IMPD policies led to the decision to transport Bisard to Methodist Occupational Health Center, instead of Methodist Hospital, where police leaders say he should have been taken. There are conflicting accounts of who made the decision, but one reason was to avoid a potential conflict between police and relatives of the victums at Methodist Hospital".

Of course it doesn't elaborate as to who's accounts conflicted. In my opinon this is a symptom of there being too many chiefs and not enough indians. It is very clear to me that IMPD is way to top heavy.(Of course I'm no Ph.D like Frank Straub so what possible insight could I really have lol). I'm also sure it wasn't the victums families feelings they were trying to protect it was Officer Bisards.
Justice101

Indianapolis, IN

#23 Nov 13, 2010
I'm not naive, nor do I expect the ineffective justice system which puts felons back on the streets in time for dinner and allows drunken killers to repeat their offenses over and over to do anything with Bisard short of a slap on the wrist. But come on hoosiers, where does this crap end? Mandatory sentencing laws have become necessary in numerous states, including Ohio and Minnesota to combat crime with great success. It's time we support them here in Indiana. Take the power out of the BAR associations hands. This is no longer a money game, lives are at risk!
MRR

Terre Haute, IN

#24 Nov 14, 2010
I have followed this case of David "Douche Bag" Bisard from the beginning and knew at that time that this jerk off will get off with a slap on the wrist and most likely a desk job. When will the people of Indianapolis finally realize that public officials will and can get away with anything. This type of thing has been going on for 100 years and people still get their panties in a wad when a public official screws up like this David "Douche Bag" Bisard. IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!!! GET OVER IT!!!!

The worst part is that someone will always suffer and in this case it is the Well's family and the family of the other 2 injured victims (apology for not remembering their names). Sure they will receive a healthy "we are sorry" check but that will not bring their loved one back and worse than that this David "Douche Bag" Bisard will not receive justice and the city of Indianapolis can put another notch in their belt of corruption as a win. Big high fives across the board when this ends I am sure.

I live in Indianapolis for 15 years but I can honestly say I am glad I no longer live their. I loved the city but the corruption is on a level close to Chicago. I knew many public officials and they would actually laugh and brad about the stuff they got away with. What a shame. The old BS saying of "held to a higher standard" is the biggest load of crap ever!! It is basically a license to lie, cheat, steal, harass and in David "Douche Bag" Bisard's case....murder! Nice job dickhead...the citizens of Indianapolis are proud to have you protecting them.
Justice101

Indianapolis, IN

#25 Nov 14, 2010
MRR wrote:
I have followed this case of David "Douche Bag" Bisard from the beginning and knew at that time that this jerk off will get off with a slap on the wrist and most likely a desk job. When will the people of Indianapolis finally realize that public officials will and can get away with anything. This type of thing has been going on for 100 years and people still get their panties in a wad when a public official screws up like this David "Douche Bag" Bisard. IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!!! GET OVER IT!!!!
The worst part is that someone will always suffer and in this case it is the Well's family and the family of the other 2 injured victims (apology for not remembering their names). Sure they will receive a healthy "we are sorry" check but that will not bring their loved one back and worse than that this David "Douche Bag" Bisard will not receive justice and the city of Indianapolis can put another notch in their belt of corruption as a win. Big high fives across the board when this ends I am sure.
I live in Indianapolis for 15 years but I can honestly say I am glad I no longer live their. I loved the city but the corruption is on a level close to Chicago. I knew many public officials and they would actually laugh and brad about the stuff they got away with. What a shame. The old BS saying of "held to a higher standard" is the biggest load of crap ever!! It is basically a license to lie, cheat, steal, harass and in David "Douche Bag" Bisard's case....murder! Nice job dickhead...the citizens of Indianapolis are proud to have you protecting them.
The only justice will be in civil court, and you're right, it won't bring back the Well's son. I respect your opinion, but disagree that "public officials" seem to get less sentences in criminal proceedings. Traditionally, ALL criminals in ALL criminal proceedings get lenient sentencing from the court. Just pull up the violent offender registry and view the number of killers living on the streets. It's tragic that the system has failed, but even more tragic that hoosiers and voters in general just allow it to happen, oblivious to the daily operations of our court system.
Chris

Indianapolis, IN

#26 Nov 14, 2010
Justice101 wrote:
<quoted text>The only justice will be in civil court, and you're right, it won't bring back the Well's son. I respect your opinion, but disagree that "public officials" seem to get less sentences in criminal proceedings. Traditionally, ALL criminals in ALL criminal proceedings get lenient sentencing from the court. Just pull up the violent offender registry and view the number of killers living on the streets. It's tragic that the system has failed, but even more tragic that hoosiers and voters in general just allow it to happen, oblivious to the daily operations of our court system.
In general, yes, but you fail to address the issue of net worth. I'm old enough to remember numerous high profile cases where the rich got off, and the less fortunate would have been punished.
Justice101

Indianapolis, IN

#27 Nov 14, 2010
Chris wrote:
<quoted text> In general, yes, but you fail to address the issue of net worth. I'm old enough to remember numerous high profile cases where the rich got off, and the less fortunate would have been punished.
I didn't want to open a major can of worms, but yes there is an obvious discrepancy between rich criminals and the rest. Bottom line is leniency and forgiveness is the end game in all court proceedings with a nice legal payoff for those reading and "interpreting" the law. The law was meant to be challenged and adjusted but not manipulated on the basis of profit. Mandatory sentencing changes the game, requiring a "fixed" set of rules for all criminals, regardless of influence or monetary worth, yet most average voters support the current system, at least in Indiana. Complacency is the root cause.
Freedom Rider

United States

#28 Nov 14, 2010
Justice101 wrote:
<quoted text>The only justice will be in civil court, and you're right, it won't bring back the Well's son. I respect your opinion, but disagree that "public officials" seem to get less sentences in criminal proceedings. Traditionally, ALL criminals in ALL criminal proceedings get lenient sentencing from the court. Just pull up the violent offender registry and view the number of killers living on the streets. It's tragic that the system has failed, but even more tragic that hoosiers and voters in general just allow it to happen, oblivious to the daily operations of our court system.
I agree, it's nobody fault we are getting the government we deserve. I am amazed how many people don't vote. Including I am sorry to say my own college educated sons and their spouses. Also it seems like most people that do vote have very little understanding of the issues. We are a country of lemmings blindly headed for the cliff.
Justice101

Indianapolis, IN

#29 Nov 15, 2010
Freedom Rider wrote:
<quoted text> I agree, it's nobody fault we are getting the government we deserve. I am amazed how many people don't vote. Including I am sorry to say my own college educated sons and their spouses. Also it seems like most people that do vote have very little understanding of the issues. We are a country of lemmings blindly headed for the cliff.
It's too bad that colleges don't mandate student participation in government at some level. In order to graduate, I was required to attend public council meetings and court proceedings. It led me into a great career but also opened my eyes to what "really" happenes and how our system is flawed. I wish more citizens would just "attend" a court session today and see what goes on. It really is a game of different rules and most people would be shocked at how lenient we have become when dispensing "justice".
Freedom Rider

United States

#30 Nov 15, 2010
Justice101 wrote:
<quoted text>It's too bad that colleges don't mandate student participation in government at some level. In order to graduate, I was required to attend public council meetings and court proceedings. It led me into a great career but also opened my eyes to what "really" happenes and how our system is flawed. I wish more citizens would just "attend" a court session today and see what goes on. It really is a game of different rules and most people would be shocked at how lenient we have become when dispensing "justice".
True, I bet if you stood at the end of the stage and questioned new grads about our government structure and our legal system, most people would be dumbfounded. But they could probably tell you all about Greek Organizations, social networking, and binge drinking though. Lol
Ballard Has Failed

United States

#31 Apr 24, 2012
And look at where we're at 1 1/2 years after the last post.

Also,remember this info from post #19

It's obvious that Communications was aware of the CORRECT protocol but...Suddenly,the correct protocol was subverted.

All of those professional crash investigators and brass at the scene.....Not a one of them was aware of the correct protocol?

Professional crash team specialists and IMPD Brass = Totally unaware of the new law.

Communications was totally aware of the proper protocol.

Houston,we have a problem.
ima hosier

Itasca, IL

#32 Apr 25, 2012
has anyone noticed that bisaro and straubber men look alike? come to think of it, they act alike,too. I wish that the fbi would arrest them along with the mayor for covering this mess up. look, that cycle rider was someones son. he probably was one of those "salt" of the earth types.what has happened to honesty and intregrity among leaders. i want to see the mayor fire his cronie on tv. then apologize to the family of the rider. then step down as mayor. take his little cronie with him and go. let mitchie give them the keys to his motorcycle to ride outta town on.
Recall Ballard

United States

#33 Apr 25, 2012
ima hosier wrote:
has anyone noticed that bisaro and straubber men look alike? come to think of it, they act alike,too. I wish that the fbi would arrest them along with the mayor for covering this mess up. look, that cycle rider was someones son. he probably was one of those "salt" of the earth types.what has happened to honesty and intregrity among leaders. i want to see the mayor fire his cronie on tv. then apologize to the family of the rider. then step down as mayor. take his little cronie with him and go. let mitchie give them the keys to his motorcycle to ride outta town on.
The F.O.P. can p*ss and moan about the arrogance of Frank Straub all they wish. Straub's arrogance greatly pales in comparison to the arrogance shown by Bisard and Owensby.

How much you want to bet Ballard's most recent promise for an investigation by the F.B.I will go down the memory-hole.
The Bisard Files

Matthews, IN

#35 Apr 27, 2013
And,one year later....
deos angelus

Indianapolis, IN

#36 Apr 28, 2013
Karmas a bitch and a well deserved one at that.... He's where he belonged 3 years ago. Lets hope he pays a few "dues" while he visits his soon to be new band of brothers
Ballard Loves Junkets

United States

#37 Oct 18, 2013
Recall Ballard wrote:
<quoted text>
The F.O.P. can p*ss and moan about the arrogance of Frank Straub all they wish. Straub's arrogance greatly pales in comparison to the arrogance shown by Bisard and Owensby.
How much you want to bet Ballard's most recent promise for an investigation by the F.B.I will go down the memory-hole.
Ballard's promise did go down the memory hole.

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