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Mideast Compromise Planned By U.S, France

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Aug 22, 2006
 
Grace wrote:
<quoted text> Thanks Tom .. what a charming sentiment...Isn't is strange communicating with people when you can never see them.. strangely mysterious ..[no Tom! please don't send me to 'beam up' again!!!} I just think of these things, from time to time - looking at life from a different perspective can be very exhilerating and insightful. Wouldn't it be fine if it were to be like this when we all die?!! Nobody sees anyone anymore but can communicate in this way ...maybe this is the start of it..Wonder if God has a giant size computer ... Re phrase it and think..maybe God IS the computer. Oh! stop! Grace..PLEASE!!! give my mind some rest: Goodnight night Tom:
Grace, I know you are a good person. But the middle eastern threads bring out the best and worst in everybody. There is not one person who I have come across on these threads that I hate. For me a lot is in humor. So I really don't wish you go with the Starship Enterprise. Good night to you too.
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#274
Aug 22, 2006
 
The French spoke so eloquently about the need for there to be immediate peace in lebanon. They said the fighting should stop immediately. They brokered deals based on the fact they would contribute significant amount of troops......so what do they do after the Israelis have surrendered?.....they are now sending 200 engineers or 450...whatever the amount.....it just shows you once again that the french (leadership) will stab you in the back everytime.
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Aug 22, 2006
 
Shane wrote:
The French spoke so eloquently about the need for there to be immediate peace in lebanon. They said the fighting should stop immediately. They brokered deals based on the fact they would contribute significant amount of troops......so what do they do after the Israelis have surrendered?.....they are now sending 200 engineers or 450...whatever the amount.....it just shows you once again that the french (leadership) will stab you in the back everytime.
Shane, I have advertised before. I have a french military rifle for sale, never been fired, only dropped once. Are you interested? It's cheap!
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Aug 22, 2006
 
Tom Reid wrote:
<quoted text>Shane, I have advertised before. I have a french military rifle for sale, never been fired, only dropped once. Are you interested? It's cheap!
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Aug 22, 2006
 
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HaHa No, I am a Citizen of a Republic, not a subject of a democracy. I do like your turn-around though.
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Aug 22, 2006
 
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Hey UK subject. Go to my last post on Isreal debates. I pity you by the way. In the UK, if you fight back against an attacker in the UK you end up getting more time than the atttacker. Shame. Just ask the farmer Tony Martin.
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Aug 22, 2006
 
It's everyone elses fault for actualy listening to France. France started waving the white flag of truce for BOTH sides from day one of this war. As soon as someone noticed and said to France, "What would you do if they stopped?", France had to put up or shut up. They did niether. Promise 2000 troops and deliver 200 engineers? Oh Please, how pathetic.
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#280
Aug 22, 2006
 
Lowell wrote:
It's everyone elses fault for actualy listening to France. France started waving the white flag of truce for BOTH sides from day one of this war. As soon as someone noticed and said to France, "What would you do if they stopped?", France had to put up or shut up. They did niether. Promise 2000 troops and deliver 200 engineers? Oh Please, how pathetic.
weve got to have white un troops in lemonon. wog (colored people) are too cowardly & serve just for the money. am i a racist. yes
Grace

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Aug 24, 2006
 
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weve got to have white un troops in lemonon. wog (colored people) are too cowardly & serve just for the money. am i a racist. yes
Well! such a sentence coming from the mouth of god..And what will the son and holy spirit have to say about the behaviour of the father..What indeed??
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Aug 25, 2006
 
To Washington and London’s shock and awe,

Hezbullah, Iran, and Syria emerged the war’s victors. Hezbullah is now the Muslim World’s new hero after battling Israel’s mighty armed forces to a humiliating draw. Even Syria’s President Bashar Asad, who played dead during the Lebanon War in fear of an Israeli attack, is now thumping his chest and crowing that Syria played a major role in the unexpected Arab victory.

Hezbullah’s triumph thwarted, at least for the moment, Bush/Cheney plans to attack Lebanon, Syria and Iran. The US and Israel have become so used to smashing nearly helpless foes armed with obsolete weapons – like Iraq, Taliban, or Palestine – that they were stunned to meet a force that had modern arms and could actually fight.

No sooner had bombing stopped than Hezbullah bulldozers were busy clearing rubble, and Hezbullah social workers resettling refugees. Perhaps President Bush should ask Hezbullah to take over rebuilding New Orleans and resettling all its refugees.

Hezbullah’s big brother, Iran, has also emerged from the Lebanon War with its political, moral and even military stature greatly enhanced. America’s Arab vassals – Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Egypt – were left badly shaken by Hezbullah’s victory and Iran’s surging influence which was already giving them nightmares well before Lebanon.

Israelis have now turned from fighting Arabs to furious finger-pointing. Politicians and generals are blaming each other for the Lebanon debacle that killed 118 Israeli soldiers and 41 civilians, cost at least $6 billion, ruined the summer tourist trade, and, after a burst of initial sympathy, brought worldwide condemnation. And no captured soldiers – this war’s supposed objective – have been yet returned.

Still, a swap of Israeli for Lebanese and Palestinian prisoners remains likely, as this column predicted at war’s beginning. The killing of 1,000 Lebanese civilians, a million Lebanese made refugees, and billions of dollars of wanton destruction, could all have been avoided.

By turning a routine border skirmish into a big war, Israel’s PM Ehud Olmert showed he had no more grasp of military affairs than those other amateur warlords, Bush, Cheney and Tony Blair. Lebanon also showed that the western leaders learned nothing from their debacle in Iraq.

Now, some Washington hawks are wondering if invading Iran may not be the "cakewalk" that pro-Israel neoconservatives promise. Iran’s Revolutionary Guards helped train and arm Hezbullah’s victorious fighters. Suddenly, neither the Israelis nor the Americans look so invincible. As Napoleon said, in war, the moral is to the physical as three to one.

America was the big loser in the Lebanon war.

From Morocco to Indonesia, each night 1.5 billion Muslims watched the carnage in Lebanon on TV and blamed America. Even the poorest shepherd in Uzbekistan heard the US was airlifting the precision bombs and deadly cluster munitions to Israel used against Lebanese civilians.
Rio wrote:
Go Israel get as many as you can---------
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#283
Aug 25, 2006
 
tom reid ...

I am interested in that rifle... ha ha ha

if its french it should be brand new...!!!

ha ha ha ...
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<quoted text>Shane, I have advertised before. I have a french military rifle for sale, never been fired, only dropped once. Are you interested? It's cheap!
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Aug 25, 2006
 
Righteous wrote:
To Washington and London’s shock and awe,
Hezbullah, Iran, and Syria emerged the war’s victors. Hezbullah is now the Muslim World’s new hero after battling Israel’s mighty armed forces to a humiliating draw. Even Syria’s President Bashar Asad, who played dead during the Lebanon War in fear of an Israeli attack, is now thumping his chest and crowing that Syria played a major role in the unexpected Arab victory.
Hezbullah’s triumph thwarted, at least for the moment, Bush/Cheney plans to attack Lebanon, Syria and Iran. The US and Israel have become so used to smashing nearly helpless foes armed with obsolete weapons – like Iraq, Taliban, or Palestine – that they were stunned to meet a force that had modern arms and could actually fight.
No sooner had bombing stopped than Hezbullah bulldozers were busy clearing rubble, and Hezbullah social workers resettling refugees. Perhaps President Bush should ask Hezbullah to take over rebuilding New Orleans and resettling all its refugees.
Hezbullah’s big brother, Iran, has also emerged from the Lebanon War with its political, moral and even military stature greatly enhanced. America’s Arab vassals – Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Egypt – were left badly shaken by Hezbullah’s victory and Iran’s surging influence which was already giving them nightmares well before Lebanon.
Israelis have now turned from fighting Arabs to furious finger-pointing. Politicians and generals are blaming each other for the Lebanon debacle that killed 118 Israeli soldiers and 41 civilians, cost at least $6 billion, ruined the summer tourist trade, and, after a burst of initial sympathy, brought worldwide condemnation. And no captured soldiers – this war’s supposed objective – have been yet returned.
Still, a swap of Israeli for Lebanese and Palestinian prisoners remains likely, as this column predicted at war’s beginning. The killing of 1,000 Lebanese civilians, a million Lebanese made refugees, and billions of dollars of wanton destruction, could all have been avoided.
By turning a routine border skirmish into a big war, Israel’s PM Ehud Olmert showed he had no more grasp of military affairs than those other amateur warlords, Bush, Cheney and Tony Blair. Lebanon also showed that the western leaders learned nothing from their debacle in Iraq.
Now, some Washington hawks are wondering if invading Iran may not be the "cakewalk" that pro-Israel neoconservatives promise. Iran’s Revolutionary Guards helped train and arm Hezbullah’s victorious fighters. Suddenly, neither the Israelis nor the Americans look so invincible. As Napoleon said, in war, the moral is to the physical as three to one.
America was the big loser in the Lebanon war.
From Morocco to Indonesia, each night 1.5 billion Muslims watched the carnage in Lebanon on TV and blamed America. Even the poorest shepherd in Uzbekistan heard the US was airlifting the precision bombs and deadly cluster munitions to Israel used against Lebanese civilians.
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how many times did this idiot post this, this is the third line I've found it on. This is straight off the Hezzi propaganda wires boys, get it while it is hot. Nobody likes cold sh*t
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Aug 25, 2006
 
Righteous wrote:
To Washington and London’s shock and awe,
Hezbullah, Iran, and Syria emerged the war’s victors. Hezbullah is now the Muslim World’s new hero after battling Israel’s mighty armed forces to a humiliating draw. Even Syria’s President Bashar Asad, who played dead during the Lebanon War in fear of an Israeli attack, is now thumping his chest and crowing that Syria played a major role in the unexpected Arab victory.
Hezbullah’s triumph thwarted, at least for the moment, Bush/Cheney plans to attack Lebanon, Syria and Iran. The US and Israel have become so used to smashing nearly helpless foes armed with obsolete weapons – like Iraq, Taliban, or Palestine – that they were stunned to meet a force that had modern arms and could actually fight.
No sooner had bombing stopped than Hezbullah bulldozers were busy clearing rubble, and Hezbullah social workers resettling refugees. Perhaps President Bush should ask Hezbullah to take over rebuilding New Orleans and resettling all its refugees.
Hezbullah’s big brother, Iran, has also emerged from the Lebanon War with its political, moral and even military stature greatly enhanced. America’s Arab vassals – Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Egypt – were left badly shaken by Hezbullah’s victory and Iran’s surging influence which was already giving them nightmares well before Lebanon.
Israelis have now turned from fighting Arabs to furious finger-pointing. Politicians and generals are blaming each other for the Lebanon debacle that killed 118 Israeli soldiers and 41 civilians, cost at least $6 billion, ruined the summer tourist trade, and, after a burst of initial sympathy, brought worldwide condemnation. And no captured soldiers – this war’s supposed objective – have been yet returned.
Still, a swap of Israeli for Lebanese and Palestinian prisoners remains likely, as this column predicted at war’s beginning. The killing of 1,000 Lebanese civilians, a million Lebanese made refugees, and billions of dollars of wanton destruction, could all have been avoided.
By turning a routine border skirmish into a big war, Israel’s PM Ehud Olmert showed he had no more grasp of military affairs than those other amateur warlords, Bush, Cheney and Tony Blair. Lebanon also showed that the western leaders learned nothing from their debacle in Iraq.
Now, some Washington hawks are wondering if invading Iran may not be the "cakewalk" that pro-Israel neoconservatives promise. Iran’s Revolutionary Guards helped train and arm Hezbullah’s victorious fighters. Suddenly, neither the Israelis nor the Americans look so invincible. As Napoleon said, in war, the moral is to the physical as three to one.
America was the big loser in the Lebanon war.
From Morocco to Indonesia, each night 1.5 billion Muslims watched the carnage in Lebanon on TV and blamed America. Even the poorest shepherd in Uzbekistan heard the US was airlifting the precision bombs and deadly cluster munitions to Israel used against Lebanese civilians.
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The big loser was the lebanese who got caught in the crossfire and the idiots that have apparently lost their minds and grip on reality so as to write a post like this. It reads like a wresting promotion.
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Aug 27, 2006
 
Tom Reid wrote:
<quoted text>Hey UK subject. Go to my last post on Isreal debates. I pity you by the way. In the UK, if you fight back against an attacker in the UK you end up getting more time than the atttacker. Shame. Just ask the farmer Tony Martin.
Yes Tom.. and note this one> Recently, a young tenager was in the room with her dad, just bored. She carelessly [tho' not purposely] spilled coffee over his computer. The Dad, enraged [as we would all be] challenged the daughter on her careless behaviour and, on pure impulse, gave her a light smack on the back of her hand..The daughter promptly telephoned 'Childline' lodged a complaint of abuse.. The dad ended up in court, was fined 300sterling. and bound to the peace for a period of time!! WAY over the top "I" think:
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Aug 27, 2006
 
Mike Johnston wrote:
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The big loser was the lebanese who got caught in the crossfire and the idiots that have apparently lost their minds and grip on reality so as to write a post like this. It reads like a wresting promotion.
I agree the Lebanes who devoted their lives to rebuilding after the revolution are the big losers and neither Israel or Hezbollah gained much of significance although my support was primarily with israel but it was tainted with some frustration that I think will continue as the UN will not impose the sanctions with enough teeth in them to do any good.
Grace Nerissa

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#288
Aug 30, 2006
 
Grace wrote:
<quoted text> Helo to you my friend..Yes, things are looking up now..thank you. It is pouring rain as I write, sometimes its beautiful to watch big silver raindrops racing down a window pane and its very green outside.. great contrast.. just like a post-card. Simple things we often miss: Shelly, do you mind my asking, did I see on another thread, that a brother of yours passed away in the Ist WTC attack? I thought I saw it somewhere but could be mixed up??
Shelly USA - If you happen to read this, can you the question I put to you? please AND thanks:
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