Israel celebrates 65 years of indepen...

Israel celebrates 65 years of independence

There are 185 comments on the Jerusalem Post story from Apr 16, 2013, titled Israel celebrates 65 years of independence. In it, Jerusalem Post reports that:

Israelis transitioned from sadness to jubilation Monday night as they ushered in its 65th anniversary of independence during the annual state ceremony at Mount Herzl military cemetery in Jerusalem.

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Gray

United States

#22 Apr 29, 2013
Nutjobs here wrote:
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SAME, OLD HASBARA SCRIPT.
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The "Agenda" so reviled by these Paid, full time, scripted shills is Equitable Policy and International Justice.

"Israel" is the only State whose "Leaders" and "Heros" are PROVEN Mass Murdering War Criminals

"How Israel was Founded"
http://www.eutimes.net/2008/04/israel-founded...

EXCERPT "After leaders of the Third Reich committed atrocities against the Jews during World War II, they were tried, hanged and buried, both physically and under the contempt of humanity.

The opposite happened to the bloody and arrogant terrorists of Israel.

Ben-Gurion, Begin, Shamir, and Sharon were all elected to leadership of the nation.

This reflected the anti-Palestinian, terrorism-friendly mentality of many Israeli voters.

The Encyclopedia of the Palestine Problem documents, from United Nations records, more than 650 attacks by Jewish settlers and the Israeli military against Arabs between 1948 and 1998.” CONTINUED
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Because thie Criminal, Terrorist phony "State" is the world's worst Law Breaker, they rely on Paid Shills like "NutJobs..."

What they are is more important than what they say:

“No Amount Of Hasbara Could Beautify Israel ‘s Ugly Face”
http://www.politicaltheatrics.net/2010/08/no-...
EXCERPT “Israeli hasbara doctors and their mouthpieces in the West don’t stop dithering about the perceived failure of the Israeli propaganda machine “to get the message through” to western audiences. Hundreds of millions of dollars are spent every year and the best of the best PR firms are recruited to do the job for Israel.

However, Israel ‘s image remains dark and ugly as many Europeans and others are drifting away from Israel as the outgoing British ambassador to Israel affirmed recently.
Of course, the failure of Israel’s lying machine to get the message through has little or nothing to do with any presumed inefficacy of the lies themselves.

After all, the Israelis have been professional liars since time immemorial and very few people under the sun could possibly outmatch them in this dishonorable field.”CONTINUED

“Israel pays propagandists to write comments on the internet”

“ The Megaphone desktop tool, built by Giyus, which means "mobilization", sends desktop alerts on key articles on Israel and surveys, online polls where activists could click on the button to support Israel and click alerts to easily voice pro-Israel opinions."

“IDF says enlisting hackers”
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-402...

EXCERPT “Benayahu told a panel on the subject of "the digital medium as strategic weapon" that the army was searching for "little hackers who were born and raised online".

“Israel Establishes Undercover Group of Paid Internet Propagandists”
http://azvsas.blogspot.com/2009/07/israel-est...

"THE SAD, SAD, WORLD OF ISRAEL'S BIG TIME LIARS"
http://www.redress.cc/palestine/slittlewood20...

"Israel’s hasbara liars verge on the compulsive and pathological. Telling lies is routine; they are in denial of reality; they exaggerate; they come to believe their lies; they have no remorse; and they have no regard for the consequences."

A Hasbara Propaganda manual is used by those who want to communicate in ways that engage the emotions and downplay rationality, in an attempt to promote a certain message.”
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Steven Hassan

United States

#23 Apr 30, 2013
biomystic wrote:
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Maranantha, Armageddon has already arrived and with it, the End Times of all Abrahamic religions based on Bible myths. Israeli archeologists Israel Finkelstein and Neil Silberman have thoroughly debunked the Bible as a product of Hebrew priests trying to meld three different Canaanite ethnic groups into one by fabricating a fictitious history we know as the Torah/Tanakh stories. True to God's real prophesy embedded within Scriptures but always manifesting in ways believers never expect, e.g. Jews getting Jesus Christ as their Messiah instead of another David, "Armageddon" too has come about at Megiddo, named after the same Canaanite Divine Assembly that was translated into Greek as "Armageddon". It turns out the Hebrew authors of the Bible stories cannot be traced farther back than 700 B.C. as a separate from Canaanite populations. This means all the Bible stories of a Hebrew history going back to 1000 BC with David and Solomon, going back to 1400 B.C with Moses and the Exodus, and back to 1800 B.C. with Abraham and Sarah, are all bogus, all just man-made myths of origin without a lick of historical truth in them. And this explains why no-one can find substantiating archeological evidence for these ancient Jewish peoples.
What this means spiritually is that the Bible is devoid of spiritual authority because you cannot get it from lies and liars. And it means that the so-called Deed to Canaan given by God to Abraham and descendants is pure bullshite. Unfortunately, this bullshite is being used as mandate by phony "Jews" from Europe primarily to steal a whole land away from its rightful inhabitants, as well as killing those who resist such foreign fascist aggression. Only the immense power of Christians and Jews to culturally deceive everyone has allowed the Jewish ruse to last so long without exposure as historical mythology. Time to face the truth and repair the damage to Palestine. I have a Palestinian friend who showed me pictures taken of Palestine in the '20's and '30's before the Ashkenazim invaders arrived en mass. As an Ashkenazim who had his dna checked I can confirm that my Ashkenazim ancestry only goes as far towards Palestine as Uzbekistan which was in the heart of the old Khazar kingdom that converted to Judaism in the 7th century to avoid war with Christians and Muslims.
By chance do you have a link, I would be interested in the papers. Thanks.
maranatha

Whitby, Canada

#24 Apr 30, 2013
To Nutjobs

Very well said and delivered.
I am not an atheist and it is refreshing to see this view from someone with no bias based on G-d.
Kudos
maranatha

Whitby, Canada

#25 Apr 30, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
Jehovah,s witnesses are giving this world enough evidence they are doing the will of Jehovah God before Armageddon starts. As true Christians preaching the end is near, that Gods heavenly Kingdom is ruling over this earth, and Jesus as King of God,s Kingdom is gathering his earthly subjects to survive the great tribulation, soon to be here. Matthew 24:14
The new world will be one of righteousness, no sickness, no crime, no wars or
Tears, ever again. Jesus as King will restore paradise, Jehovah,s original purpose fot the planet Earth, and only the meek and humble will survive Armageddon.
Isaiah 65:17
Sorry, but the Jehovah's witness group are a cult, plain and simple.

I have invited your people in and routinely showed them the holes in their theology.

This along with the two predictions of the end of the world by their leaders that came up empty and false,(and then removed from all their literature as a true sign of their knowledge and coverup of this failure) is solid evidence of this apostate belief.

Any Jehovah's witness is as brainwashed as the people of Radical islam.
True Christian witness

Slick, OK

#26 Apr 30, 2013
maranatha wrote:
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Sorry, but the Jehovah's witness group are a cult, plain and simple.
I have invited your people in and routinely showed them the holes in their theology.
This along with the two predictions of the end of the world by their leaders that came up empty and false,(and then removed from all their literature as a true sign of their knowledge and coverup of this failure) is solid evidence of this apostate belief.
Any Jehovah's witness is as brainwashed as the people of Radical islam.
There are no holes in theocratic truth, the fact is, you are made a choice whether to accept the way to everlasting life or not, giving up this world and all of the glory of this world is not easy, only the meek and those seeking the truth will find it and accept it.
Psalm 37:11

Jehovah's witnesses can't make anyone do anything, it is Jesus who is gathering his subjects, all we do is preach the message that Jehovah God and his reigning King want preached.
Matthew 24:14
Matthew 28:19,20

Since: Nov 12

Eureka, CA

#27 Apr 30, 2013
Steven Hassan wrote:
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By chance do you have a link, I would be interested in the papers. Thanks.
The Bible Unearthed: video at:
&fe ature=share&list=FLmu6OgSA iAyyTMaLjpE1O1A

Every Jew, Pauline Christian, and Muslim needs to see this video and go home and think about all the millions of people who have died because of Abrahamic religious warfare that is still going strong in our times. God does not want this Abrahamic madness to continue which is why these lost histories are being resurrected in our times to overthrow the false spiritual authority given to ancient liars and their lies.

If you love humanity, if you love your neighbor as your self, you will stop promoting Abrahamic religious warfare so people can live. It's as simple as that. Please forgo bad religion and treat human beings decently.
Nutjobs here

Rehovot, Israel

#28 Apr 30, 2013
biomystic wrote:
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The Bible Unearthed: video at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =t440bxhn1qAXX&feature=sha re&list=FLmu6OgSAiAyyTMaLj pE1O1A
Every Jew, Pauline Christian, and Muslim needs to see this video and go home and think about all the millions of people who have died because of Abrahamic religious warfare that is still going strong in our times. God does not want this Abrahamic madness to continue which is why these lost histories are being resurrected in our times to overthrow the false spiritual authority given to ancient liars and their lies.
If you love humanity, if you love your neighbor as your self, you will stop promoting Abrahamic religious warfare so people can live. It's as simple as that. Please forgo bad religion and treat human beings decently.
This coming from someone who supports the destruction or at least the forced dismantlement of an existing country. So much for peace and treating human beings decently.
Maranatha

Whitby, Canada

#29 May 1, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
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There are no holes in theocratic truth, the fact is, you are made a choice whether to accept the way to everlasting life or not, giving up this world and all of the glory of this world is not easy, only the meek and those seeking the truth will find it and accept it.
Psalm 37:11
Jehovah's witnesses can't make anyone do anything, it is Jesus who is gathering his subjects, all we do is preach the message that Jehovah God and his reigning King want preached.
Matthew 24:14
Matthew 28:19,20
Nice scriptures, I love this book...

However, these writings have no basis for your cult.
True Christian witness

Slick, OK

#30 May 1, 2013
Maranatha wrote:
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Nice scriptures, I love this book...
However, these writings have no basis for your cult.
All the Scriptures are the truth, that fact is the basis for our religion, and our faith in the God of Abraham, Moses and Jesus.

2Timothy 3:16,17

Since: Nov 12

Eureka, CA

#31 May 1, 2013
Sorry, Maranatha and True Christian witness, but there is no spiritual authority derived from lies and liars. You can believe whatever you're told in church and reading the Bible but just because its written in print never made it true. Now God is busy resurrecting the lost historical evidence that the Bible authors were great liars and these lies have cost millions of lives as the believers, like you two, go out and further death and destruction based on these Bible lies. It's happening right now in Israel where Zionist Jews and Evangelical Christians backing them up, are using Bible lies to steal Palestine away from Palestinians and to kill any who resist this fascist aggression, no different from Nazis invading France or Poland with the aim of taking these countries over for the Chosen Race.

If you love God, you will love humanity and stop being accessories to murder of innocents. I am Ashkenazi Jewish which means I am descended from European and Central Asian Jewish CONVERTS, a fact I proved to myself and anyone else by having my dna analyzed. I have no more "Right of Return" to Palestine than a Chinese Muslim has Right of Return to seize and control Mecca and Saudi Arabia. It's all a gigantic Scam by Zionists and many of us Jews are against it. Israel has turned out to be a monster as God is using the Holy Land now to bring about the End Times of all Abrahamic religions which are the source of the constant Middle East wars.
Maranatha

Whitby, Canada

#32 May 1, 2013
biomystic wrote:
So sorry you feel this way.

All scripture of the Holy Bible is God breathed and true to the letter.

In the next decade you will see the final stages of its prophecy unfold in front of you.

If you are truly a descendant of Jacob, you are one of the chosen.
Maranatha

Whitby, Canada

#33 May 1, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
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All the Scriptures are the truth, that fact is the basis for our religion, and our faith in the God of Abraham, Moses and Jesus.
2Timothy 3:16,17
Yes, the scriptures are truth, however, they do not prove or back your theology.
True Christian witness

Slick, OK

#34 May 1, 2013
Maranatha wrote:
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Yes, the scriptures are truth, however, they do not prove or back your theology.
The Scriptures most assuredly prove the truth taught by Jehovah's witnesses, in fact it is the only proof that should be viewed as truth, not what some man teaches, as in Judaism and Christendom.

Jehovah's witnesses are no part of this world or it's religions, we are the same religion Jesus was and taught his followers to be, Jehovah God's witnesses.
John 17:3
Revelation 1:5
Nutjobs here

Rehovot, Israel

#35 May 1, 2013
biomystic wrote:
Sorry, Maranatha and True Christian witness, but there is no spiritual authority derived from lies and liars. You can believe whatever you're told in church and reading the Bible but just because its written in print never made it true. Now God is busy resurrecting the lost historical evidence that the Bible authors were great liars and these lies have cost millions of lives as the believers, like you two, go out and further death and destruction based on these Bible lies. It's happening right now in Israel where Zionist Jews and Evangelical Christians backing them up, are using Bible lies to steal Palestine away from Palestinians and to kill any who resist this fascist aggression, no different from Nazis invading France or Poland with the aim of taking these countries over for the Chosen Race.
If you love God, you will love humanity and stop being accessories to murder of innocents. I am Ashkenazi Jewish which means I am descended from European and Central Asian Jewish CONVERTS, a fact I proved to myself and anyone else by having my dna analyzed. I have no more "Right of Return" to Palestine than a Chinese Muslim has Right of Return to seize and control Mecca and Saudi Arabia. It's all a gigantic Scam by Zionists and many of us Jews are against it. Israel has turned out to be a monster as God is using the Holy Land now to bring about the End Times of all Abrahamic religions which are the source of the constant Middle East wars.
You speak of god as though your beliefs are true with no evidence to back them up while denying others beliefs to be true. Basically its your opinion and has no factual basis.

Palestine was given to the Jews by the League of Nations the 52 or so nations which existed at the time. The same group created another dozen countries.

If you can give any evidence of Palestinian Arab ownership of the land you may have a point but as their is no legal basis for the Palestinians as a nation to the land you are being false.
The majority of the land was owned by the Ottoman Empire who gave up their right in the treaty of Sevres in 1920. The San Remo Conference in 1920 led to the Mandate for Palestine which was agreed upon by the nations of the world as were other mandates.
The British were given trusteeship over the Mandate to
facilitate Jewish immigration and settlement on public land (which included the majority of the land which WAS NOT OWNED BY ANY PERSON.
It was the Arabs of the land who continuously massacred the indigenous Jewish population from places such as Tzfat, Tiberias, Jerusalem, Hebron, Gaza and so on. Not to mention the fact that 300,000+ non-Jews on the land in 1948 have recently immigrated to W.Palestine so they are not even so called "Palestinians".

Its nice that you proved to yourself that you are a convert but you logic is laughable. You are basing your opinion on personal experience and seem to dismiss all the evidence to the contrary when it comes to the majority of Ashkenazi Jews.
As for the previous JEWISH KINGDOM in Arabia, when Muhamad invented Islam he betrayed the Jewish kingdom in the region. Went to war and massacred, raped, pillaged. Mecca was the center of Idol Worship nothing seems to have changed.

Since: Nov 12

Eureka, CA

#36 May 1, 2013
Nutjobs, your beef is not with me but with archeological facts in the ground. If you can prove professional archeologists wrong with evidence please do so but as one trained in anthropology I think you are only blowing smoke out your behind.

As for the ruse on the world perpetrated by Zionist Ashkenazim, there are now quite a few internet sites that tell the real history of how Zionist Askenazim lobbied for decades both British and American governments to instill their Zionist project of takeover and genocide of Palestine starting with the Balfour Agreement which I have a note filed somewhere from the authors of which stating it was a deliberate political deception document. All the way through it's been a political deception including the newly created U.N. that violated its own Charter protecting the right of self-determination by indigenous populations. Not a single Palestinian ever was consulted before Palestine was broken into two to accommodate European Jewish settlers like me, with hardly a smidgeon of real Sephardic ancestry. The whole idea of "Right of Return" defies international law and if common place would create utter chaos in the world with such nonsense as Scotish immigrants in America going back to Scotland to claim Scotland for themselves. Israel causes enough chaos with its hubris and narcissism that cares nothing for the human rights of others in the way of Eretz Yisrael, which is just another European racial genocide ideology like "Manifest Destiny". These are the End Times of Abrahamic religions starting with Judaism and Israel is where the believers of Abraham meet historical truth.
Nutjobs here

Rehovot, Israel

#37 May 1, 2013
biomystic wrote:
No my beef is with you. i have seen the land and archaeological facts on the ground with many of my friends working in that field. There is dispute on what happened before the Roman times and how the Jews/Hebrews became a people. For this reason and many more i dont believe in the Bible or any religious text as evidence shows otherwise. Not sure the relevance to what i wrote.
I dont believe that i have talked about ancient history in this post so not sure why you bring it up.
If you are claiming that the Jews of today are not Jews of the past than i will have to call BS. Yes a small % did convert over the centuries but a large % can trace their lineage back to the Temple Times and the rest at least hundreds of years.
Since you claim to be an expert give me anything to back up your opinion on the matter.

Not to mention the fact that on another post i refuted your So called peace plan and showed your true face how you are not interested in peace but in the destruction of Israel.

How could they have lobbied for decades when the British didn't control the land until the time of the Balfour declaration (which had no legal basis until it was added to the Mandate for Palestine). There are quite a few internet sites which spout lies just because its online doesn't make it true.

The Western Jews began resettling the land in numbers around 1840. Jews became the majority religion in Jerusalem around the same time. The land was mostly swamps which the Jews cleared and most of the Arabs on the land by the time Israel was created came from the surrounding areas for a better life, or were beduin tribes who moved throughout the region. Not to ignore the fact that Jews have lived continuously on the land for thousands of years (while a minority), even a significant % of todays Palestinians say they are Jewish (whole tribes) and were forcefully converted over the past 300 years.

Again you make it sound good but what you say is untrue.
The Mandate for Palestine in the 1920's clearly states that the British trustees where put there to facilitate Jewish immigration to the land, to give them state land, with the future creation of a country. Jordan which is 80% of Palestine was taken off the Mandate and a new country was created in the 1920's. This was meant to be the Arab country in Palestine.

What Genocide of Palestinians they only became a nation in the 1960's and their population has multiplied quicker than i believe nearly any other people in history.
UN Charter article 80 clearly creates a unbinding legal commitment that Palestine is for a Jewish country unless the country itself decides otherwise. http://www.algemeiner.com/2011/09/22/article-...
so your self determination has no legal relevance to the subject as it refers to the Jews in this case so supports my opinion.

Read the Faisel Weitzman paris peace agreement from 1919 where Faisel a leader of the Arabs in greater Syria clearly was pro-creating a Jewish state in all of Palestine including Jordan this is just one example of Arabs supporting the creation of Israel. He did note the agreement would only stand if the French and British followed their agreements with the Arabs. France betrayed them and eventually created Lebanon while refused to give over control of Syria to the Arabs. obviously there is more to it but i have written enough.
Again you lack historic knowledge which seems to begin in the 1940's unless it supports your agenda. The land was split in the 1920's with 80% of Palestine becoming trans-jordan so its the Jews who lost out and the Arabs where given the majority of the land.

THE MAJORITY OF ISRAELI JEWS ARE OF SEPHARDI BACKGROUND.
There is no international law telling countries who they can allow in or what their immigration laws must be.

You should go back to school and get a real education on the history of this land over the past 200 years.
Nutjobs here

Rehovot, Israel

#38 May 1, 2013
biomystic wrote:
No my beef is with you. i have seen the land and archaeological facts on the ground with many of my friends working in that field. There is dispute on what happened before the Roman times and how the Jews/Hebrews became a people. For this reason and many more i dont believe in the Bible or any religious text as evidence shows otherwise. Not sure the relevance to what i wrote.
I dont believe that i have talked about ancient history in this post so not sure why you bring it up.
If you are claiming that the Jews of today are not Jews of the past than i will have to call BS. Yes a small % did convert over the centuries but a large % can trace their lineage back to the Temple Times and the rest at least hundreds of years.
Since you claim to be an expert give me anything to back up your opinion on the matter.

Not to mention the fact that on another post i refuted your So called peace plan and showed your true face how you are not interested in peace but in the destruction of Israel.

How could they have lobbied for decades when the British didn't control the land until the time of the Balfour declaration (which had no legal basis until it was added to the Mandate for Palestine). There are quite a few internet sites which spout lies just because its online doesn't make it true.

The Western Jews began resettling the land in numbers around 1840. Jews became the majority religion in Jerusalem around the same time. The land was mostly swamps which the Jews cleared and most of the Arabs on the land by the time Israel was created came from the surrounding areas for a better life, or were beduin tribes who moved throughout the region. Not to ignore the fact that Jews have lived continuously on the land for thousands of years (while a minority), even a significant % of todays Palestinians say they are Jewish (whole tribes) and were forcefully converted over the past 300 years.

Again you make it sound good but what you say is untrue.
The Mandate for Palestine in the 1920's clearly states that the British trustees where put there to facilitate Jewish immigration to the land, to give them state land, with the future creation of a country. Jordan which is 80% of Palestine was taken off the Mandate and a new country was created in the 1920's. This was meant to be the Arab country in Palestine.

What Genocide of Palestinians they only became a nation in the 1960's and their population has multiplied quicker than i believe nearly any other people in history.
UN Charter article 80 clearly creates a unbinding legal commitment that Palestine is for a Jewish country unless the country itself decides otherwise. http://www.algemeiner.com/2011/09/22/article-...
so your self determination has no legal relevance to the subject as it refers to the Jews in this case so supports my opinion.

Read the Faisel Weitzman paris peace agreement from 1919 where Faisel a leader of the Arabs in greater Syria clearly was pro-creating a Jewish state in all of Palestine including Jordan this is just one example of Arabs supporting the creation of Israel. He did note the agreement would only stand if the French and British followed their agreements with the Arabs. France betrayed them and eventually created Lebanon while refused to give over control of Syria to the Arabs. obviously there is more to it but i have written enough.
Again you lack historic knowledge which seems to begin in the 1940's unless it supports your agenda. The land was split in the 1920's with 80% of Palestine becoming trans-jordan so its the Jews who lost out and the Arabs where given the majority of the land.

THE MAJORITY OF ISRAELI JEWS ARE OF SEPHARDI BACKGROUND.
Theres no international law telling countries who to allow in or what immigration laws must be.

Go back to school and get a real education on history of the land over the past 200 years.

i have repeated myself as you seem unable to read.

Since: Nov 12

Eureka, CA

#40 May 1, 2013
You tell lies, nutjob. I hope you don't believe them. Look up the percentage of Askenzazim Jews compared to Sephardic Jews and see that it is literally impossible for the majority of Israelies to be of Sephardic ancestry since the vast majority of Jews are Askkenazim Jewish convert descended like me who can prove our great European and Central Asian ancestry ends at Uzbekistan, in the heart of the old Khazar kingdom. I have Polish, Ukrainian, Lithianian, Slovakian, Austria-Hungary, Netherlands, Ashkenazim that goes no farther towards Palestine than Uzbekistan. I do have tiny traces of real Sephardic (Mizraim) ancestry from Tunisia and Libya but it is absolutely absurd to think these tiny traces give any Ashkenazim Jew a right to boot out indigenous peoples. My dna analysis was done by the same outfit National Geographic Magazine used for their human genome project. If you can post proof of Ashkenazim ancestry that is more than tiny traces of Sephardic genes please do so because frankly I think you're either ignorant of genetic history of Jews or telling fibs deliberately to deceive and protect the Zionist enterprise.
Which no matter how you slice it, is an invasion of Palestine by European colonists who are not Palestinian or even Sephardic. The only Jews who rightfully belong in Palestine are those who are descended from Palestinian Jews because this is the term used to describe Jews living in Palestine before 1948. And again you tell untruth about the Jewish population which at the time of Partition was only 30% of Palestine while being mandated more than 50% of the land, beginning the Zionist land stealing that has gone on ever since with Pals now down to, what? less than 22% of Palestine.
The Canaan Peace Plan was divinely inspired so if you don't like it, take your beef to God and good luck there! Israel was a very bad idea that has caused so much needless suffering I am amazed you or anyone can support this monstrosity of Abrahamic religious warfare personified. The Canaan Peace Plan allows Israeli Jews to exist as Israeli Jews within a Canaan nation that include Pals as equal partners. And you find that democracy threatening Israel...which it does..because Israel was never a democratic deal..not for the majority of Palestine's population.
Nutjobs here

Rehovot, Israel

#41 May 1, 2013
biomystic wrote:
You tell lies, nutjob. I do have tiny traces of real Sephardic (Mizraim) ancestry from Tunisia and Libya but it is absolutely absurd to think these tiny traces give any Ashkenazim Jew a right to boot out indigenous peoples. My dna analysis was done by the same outfit National Geographic Magazine used for their human genome project. If you can post proof of Ashkenazim ancestry that is more than tiny traces of Sephardic genes please do so because frankly I think you're either ignorant of genetic history of Jews or telling fibs deliberately to deceive and protect the Zionist enterprise.
Which no matter how you slice it, is an invasion of Palestine by European colonists who are not Palestinian or even Sephardic. The only Jews who rightfully belong in Palestine are those who are descended from Palestinian Jews because this is the term used to describe Jews living in Palestine before 1948. And again you tell untruth about the Jewish population which at the time of Partition was only 30% of Palestine while being mandated more than 50% of the land, beginning the Zionist land stealing that has gone on ever since with Pals now down to, what? less than 22% of Palestine.
The Canaan Peace Plan was divinely inspired so if you don't like it, take your beef to God and good luck there! Israel was a very bad idea that has caused so much needless suffering I am amazed you or anyone can support this monstrosity of Abrahamic religious warfare personified. The Canaan Peace Plan allows Israeli Jews to exist as Israeli Jews within a Canaan nation that include Pals as equal partners. And you find that democracy threatening Israel...which it does..because Israel was never a democratic deal..not for the majority of Palestine's population.
Thanks for the tip. I dont need someone like you to tell me that the majority of Jews are Ashkenazi as i never said otherwise. However the majority of Jews in Israel are sepharadi and of local descent. It is not a large majority but a majority non the less.

You again are ignoring reality when it comes to when the land was given to the Jews. The partition plan was a UN GA resolution which has no legal basis unless both sides agree to it. Since both sides did not agree to it, its irrelevant in the legal sense.
I never said Jews were a majority on the land in the 1940's they were not. But you miss the fact that Palestine includes Golan Heights, Jordan, S.Lebanon, Gaza, WB. The majority of these lands are part of Jordan.
Before 1948 the Jews in Palestine were called Palestinians there was no need to say Jews as Palestinian was enough.
BTW many European Jews are Sephardi.

DO YOU HAVE ANY UNDERSTANDING OF THE BORDERS OF PALESTINE AGAIN YOU SEEM TO BELIEVE THAT PALESTINE WAS CREATED IN 1940'S WHEN IT WAS CREATED IN THE EARLY 1900'S. JORDAN IS AROUND 80% OF PALESTINE SO DONT BRING THE TYPICAL ANTI-ZIONIST LIES OF 22%.

You call for the destruction of a country with the Canaan plan and see it as peaceful this sums up your logic. Enough said.

You are a self hating Jew like many others no idea how you got that way but i feel sorry for you.

The letter P does not even exist in Arabic, from Arab leaders mouths they admit the Palestinians as a people were created with the sole aim of destroying Israel.

Why do you continuously ignore the fact that 300,000 of the Arabs on the land at the end of the 1940's were not even indigenous to the land and had only arrived from the 1920's?
another little fact the UNWRA had to change their definition of refugee to include those who arrived on the land within 2 years of the creation of Israel because so many Arabs had just arrived.

If you can name one part of Palestinian society which doesn't incite hatred against Israel and Jews please do otherwise stop with the BS.
If you can name one thing the Palestinians have done for peace please do otherwise dont pretend otherwise.
If you can name the 1st leader of the Palestinians?
Gray

United States

#42 May 1, 2013
Nutjobs here wrote:
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SAME, OLD, INVENTED ZIONO-MYTHOLOGY
Dear Zio-Nutjob",

FOREIGN Zio-Nuts from far, far away Khazaria, Brooklyn, Florida Poland etc) arrived to Invade and occupy an already inhabited land.

Even the Mass Murdering War criminals you worship as "Heros" admit the following:

"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population." Moshe Dayan, address to the Technion, Haifa, reported in Haaretz, April 4, 1969.http://www.againstbombing .org/peacegroups.htm

Dear Zio-Nutjob",

How do you expel people if they're not already there:

"We must expel Arabs and take their places."&#8232;David Ben Gurion, future Prime Minister of Israel, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985&#8232;

. "We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!'" Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.
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Ethical, Rational and Educated Jews accept the following Proof as irrefutable:

“Johns Hopkins Genome Study of Jewish Origins”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/02/03/johns...

“New Genome Study Destroys Zionist Claims to Palestine”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/03/01/new-g...
EXCERPTS “ On December 14, 2012, Dr. Eran Elhaik turned almost two generations of Jewish genome research upside down.
“But he went even further. The young Israeli-American geneticist has charged former researchers with academic fraud, and he has the research to back it up.”

“How could those those eminent Jewish scientist before him have been so wrong? Easy says Dr. Elhaik,“First these researchers decided what conclusions they wanted to find, and then they set off to find evidence to support it.” I was not bashing Jewish scientists. What Elhaik has described is a slam dunk fraud.

“But why? Why would Jews who take such pride in the academic achievement risk exposing themselves to a group deception which was bound to be discovered later? Dr. Elhaik does not delve into the quicksand of the politics,” CONTINUED
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Since Nazism and Zionism are identical ideologies, it; no surprise that relatively isolated Zionists could be even more cruel than more closely watched European National Socialists:

1948  "What is necessary is cruel and strong reactions. We need precision in time, place, and casualties. If we know the family, we must strike mercilessly, women and children included. Otherwise, the reaction is inefficient. At the place of action, there is no need to distinguish between guilty and innocent."  January, 1948 David Ben-Gurion diary entry.
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Your hasbara training instructs you to: " “Just walk away:" so therefore I'm nt surprised that you ignore being soundly debunked by me and the reat of the Rational, Educated world

“HASBARA HANDBOOK”
http://www.middle-east-info.org/take/wujshasb...
Page 31 “Just walk away: When Not To Engage”:
-“When they don’t know enough” or “over your head”

The Hasbarat CAN'T & WON'T deal in factual rebuttals!

No one believes you!
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