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Obama says Mideast peace 'really hard problem,' no agreement doesn't mean he 'screwed up'

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Tim Upham

Nine Mile Falls, WA

#1 Mar 21, 2013
No peace agreement, does mean "a screw up." Because people lives are dependent on it. After Israel signed peace treaties with both Egypt and Jordan, none of them went to war with each other again. Both North Korea and South Korea are still technically at a state of war, because neither country has signed a peace treaty with each other.
justice

Godalming, UK

#2 Mar 22, 2013
Tim Upham wrote:
No peace agreement, does mean "a screw up." Because people lives are dependent on it. After Israel signed peace treaties with both Egypt and Jordan, none of them went to war with each other again. Both North Korea and South Korea are still technically at a state of war, because neither country has signed a peace treaty with each other.
Only after Armageddon (global flood) will the peace come in.
Only after Armageddon will the Messiah be there with the survivors the meek (on earth not heaven) for a new beginning.
The Messiah will be the choice of Abram's god, El ~Shaddai.
Therefore Messiah, like Abram the Messiah will have no religion - must stand on neutral ground.
Messiah will be for all nations, like Abram was given the prophecy of being the father of all nations (goyim)
Future Temple will be built for ALL NATIONS (goyim).
Goy = nation. Goyim = nations.

It is not religions that will boast the Messiah is with us, because there will be no religions. Only survivors of the future global flood.
The earth is due for a good cleansing from all the filth and evil of humankind.
God said long long ago, that he regretted making humankind.
And Armageddon is not going to be nuclear, but will be caused by the planet that is on the threshold of entry. Which will rock the earth too and fro. Cause the sun to set at noon.
Tsunamis world wide.
You would only fear if you are unrighteous. The righteous have no fear, they will be taken into a place of protection.
El Shaddai is working behind the scenes, doing the separating work - he is judging humankind hearts.
He will not make a mistake. No one will die who deserves to live. And no one will be saved who deserves to dies.
Tim Upham

Nine Mile Falls, WA

#3 Mar 22, 2013
You will be waiting an awfully long time, for this to happened. The divine can help, but it is going to be the actions of humans that make this happen.
justice

Godalming, UK

#4 Mar 23, 2013
Tim Upham wrote:
You will be waiting an awfully long time, for this to happened. The divine can help, but it is going to be the actions of humans that make this happen.
You are wrong, actually we are on the threshold of Armageddon.

Your words are so wrongly chosen. I quote you,'The divine can help'. Excuse me El Shaddai knows what is happening, but there is a time for everything.
And it is humans that have caused all this hatred, therefore I will stand on the side of El Shaddai every time.
Shall we wait and see how soon Armageddon will be, remember there is no warning, but comes like a thief in the night.

You need to do some more research on Nibiru the rogue planet. You need to go back in time when the planets were being formed after the big bang.
What do you think caused the global flood of Ziusudra (changed to Noah by Hebrew scribes) See how the Old Testament quotes the flood of Ziusudra, even to the birds being sent out. Please take the challenge then get back to me if I am wrong.
The flood was not caused by 40 days rain and 40 nights it is impossible.
Neither did God cause the flood, it was NIBIRU.

It is immaterial to me whether you believe or disbelieve, at least I have informed you therefore my conscious is clear.
Tim Upham

Nine Mile Falls, WA

#5 Mar 23, 2013
justice wrote:
<quoted text>
You are wrong, actually we are on the threshold of Armageddon.
Your words are so wrongly chosen. I quote you,'The divine can help'. Excuse me El Shaddai knows what is happening, but there is a time for everything.
And it is humans that have caused all this hatred, therefore I will stand on the side of El Shaddai every time.
Shall we wait and see how soon Armageddon will be, remember there is no warning, but comes like a thief in the night.
You need to do some more research on Nibiru the rogue planet. You need to go back in time when the planets were being formed after the big bang.
What do you think caused the global flood of Ziusudra (changed to Noah by Hebrew scribes) See how the Old Testament quotes the flood of Ziusudra, even to the birds being sent out. Please take the challenge then get back to me if I am wrong.
The flood was not caused by 40 days rain and 40 nights it is impossible.
Neither did God cause the flood, it was NIBIRU.
It is immaterial to me whether you believe or disbelieve, at least I have informed you therefore my conscious is clear.
The Nibiru cataclysm is the V838 Mon, a star with an expanding light echo. It was suppose to happen in 1995, and never did. Nibiru goes back to ancient Akkadian astronomy, and refers to the start of the summer solstice.
justice

Godalming, UK

#6 Mar 24, 2013
Tim Upham wrote:
<quoted text> The Nibiru cataclysm is the V838 Mon, a star with an expanding light echo. It was suppose to happen in 1995, and never did. Nibiru goes back to ancient Akkadian astronomy, and refers to the start of the summer solstice.
You have not done the research I asked otherwise you would know the answers.

Go back to the beginning of time and how the planets jostled with each other for their orbits.
See how the rogue planet knocked into what we call earth, and shoved it into a different orbit.
The chunk it knocked off became the astroid belt, and part of it became the moon. This is what leading scientists say. Read how the Sumerians, Babylonians wrote about it.
I do not know what you mean about it being the start of the summer solstice. Do you mean when they could see it?
Because if they could see it they would be in deep trouble because it would be overhead, and the magnetic forces would cause chaos.
If you believe the 6 days of creation for the universe, plants humans etc., then you have no chance of understanding what I am writing about; your thoughts will be set on what you have learned from religions.
I have told you I respect you because your replies to me are never offensive and that is why I continue to discuss with you. You respect me as a woman and never try and put me down.
And I thank you for that.
justice

Godalming, UK

#7 Mar 24, 2013
Tim Upham wrote:
<quoted text> The Nibiru cataclysm is the V838 Mon, a star with an expanding light echo. It was suppose to happen in 1995, and never did. Nibiru goes back to ancient Akkadian astronomy, and refers to the start of the summer solstice.
Before I reply you and read the following, Read speech of Netanyahu and tell me he does not believe god gave the land to them.

FULL TRANSCRIPT:

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Three thousand years ago, King David reigned over the Jewish state in our eternal capital, Jerusalem. I say that to all those who proclaim that the Jewish state has no roots in our region and that it will soon disappear.

Throughout our history, the Jewish people have overcome all the tyrants who have sought our destruction. It’s their ideologies that have been discarded by history.

The people of Israel live on. We say in Hebrew Am Yisrael Chai, and the Jewish state will live forever.

The Jewish people have lived in the land of Israel for thousands of years. Even after most of our people were exiled from it, Jews continued to live in the land of Israel throughout the ages. The masses of our people never gave up the dreamed of returning to our ancient homeland.
justice

Godalming, UK

#8 Mar 24, 2013
Tim Upham wrote:
<quoted text> The Nibiru cataclysm is the V838 Mon, a star with an expanding light echo. It was suppose to happen in 1995, and never did. Nibiru goes back to ancient Akkadian astronomy, and refers to the start of the summer solstice.
see http://www.xfacts.com/great_flood/biblical_fl...
justice

Godalming, UK

#9 Mar 24, 2013
Tim Upham wrote:
<quoted text> The Nibiru cataclysm is the V838 Mon, a star with an expanding light echo. It was suppose to happen in 1995, and never did. Nibiru goes back to ancient Akkadian astronomy, and refers to the start of the summer solstice.
http://www.xfacts.com/great_flood/biblical_fl...
Tim Upham

Nine Mile Falls, WA

#10 Mar 24, 2013
justice wrote:
Why is this reported by Xfacts, and not by NASA or the United States Naval Observatory? I would find them more a reliable source of information, than an obscure publication such as Xfacts.
justice

Godalming, UK

#11 Mar 25, 2013
Tim Upham wrote:
<quoted text> Why is this reported by Xfacts, and not by NASA or the United States Naval Observatory? I would find them more a reliable source of information, than an obscure publication such as Xfacts.
Read this :-

Before you read the Washington Post Article below you should know the following:
In 1982 NASA recognized the possibility of an extra solar planet that was beyond the reach of their best satellite to detect. So NASA set out to change that! Just one year later JPL conveniently had just what NASA needed to make it possible to look deep into our own solar system,(past Pluto's orbit).
The launch of the IRAS satellite shortly there afterwards, located a VERY LARGE object that NASA officials were "bedeviled" by, and that they, "do not want to accept it" what they were now witnessing. Some of the DATA suggested, "that it might actually be moving toward Earth!"
So on January 26, 1983, NASA launched the Infrared Astronomical Satellite (IRAS) with the results to be overseen by; Dr. Gerry Neugebauer, IRAS chief scientist, Dr. James Houck of Cornell University
The rest of the story is found in the Washington Post story below!
http://www.smith-mountain-lakes.com/surviving...
justice

Godalming, UK

#12 Mar 25, 2013
Tim Upham wrote:
<quoted text> Why is this reported by Xfacts, and not by NASA or the United States Naval Observatory? I would find them more a reliable source of information, than an obscure publication such as Xfacts.
A heavenly body possibly as large as the giant planet Jupiter and possibly so close to Earth that it would be part of this solar system has been found in the direction of the constellation Orion by an orbiting telescope aboard the U.S. infrared astronomical satellite.

So mysterious is the object that astronomers do not know if it is a planet, a giant comet, a nearby “protostar” that never got hot enough to become a star, a distant galaxy so young that it is still in the process of forming its first stars or a galaxy so shrouded in dust that none of the light cast by its stars ever gets through.
“All I can tell you is that we don’t know what it is,” Dr. Gerry Neugebauer, IRAS chief scientist for California’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory and director of the Palomar Observatory for the California Institute of Technology, said in an interview.
The most fascinating explanation of this mystery body, which is so cold it casts no light and has never been seen by optical telescopes on Earth or in space, is that it is a giant gaseous planet as large as Jupiter and as close to Earth as 50 trillion miles.

While that may seem like a great distance in earthbound terms, it is a stone’s throw in cosmological terms, so close in fact that it would be the nearest heavenly body to Earth beyond the outermost planet Pluto.
“If it is really that close, it would be a part of our solar system,” said Dr. James Houck of Cornell University’s Center for Radio Physics and Space Research and a member of the IRAS science team.

“If it is that close, I don’t know how the world’s planetary scientists would even begin to classify it.”
The mystery body was seen twice by the infrared satellite as it scanned the northern sky from last January to November, when the satellite ran out of the supercold helium that allowed its telescope to see the coldest bodies in the heavens.

The second observation took place six months after the first and suggested the mystery body had not moved from its spot in the sky near the western edge of the constellation Orion in that time.
“This suggests it’s not a comet because a comet would not be as large as the one we’ve observed and a comet would probably have moved,” Houck said.“A planet may have moved if it were as close as 50 trillion miles but it could still be a more distant planet and not have moved in six months time.”
Whatever it is, Houck said, the mystery body is so cold its temperature is no more than 40 degrees above “absolute” zero, which is 456° Fahrenheit below zero. The telescope aboard IRAS is cooled so low and is so sensitive it can “see” objects in the heavens that are only 20 degrees above absolute zero.

When IRAS scientists first saw the mystery body and calculated that it could be as close as 50 trillion miles, there was some speculation that it might be moving toward Earth.
“It’s not incoming mail,” Cal Tech’s Neugebauer said.“I want to douse that idea with as much cold water as I can.”

Tim Upham

Nine Mile Falls, WA

#14 Mar 25, 2013
1982 to 1983. The United States was in a cold war at that time, and Americans were terrified that they could be vaporized by incoming Soviet missiles. Where is that fear now? And for that fact, where is the Soviet Union now?
justice

Godalming, UK

#15 Mar 25, 2013
Tim Upham wrote:
1982 to 1983. The United States was in a cold war at that time, and Americans were terrified that they could be vaporized by incoming Soviet missiles. Where is that fear now? And for that fact, where is the Soviet Union now?
I do not get the point of your comments.
We were talking about the planet of discovery. What has the cold war got to do with it you are off topic.

The original Sumerian word was, Nibiri /Neberu= planet of crossing.

Because from time to time it passes close to the earth. Roughly every 12,960 years.
Noah's flood was the last time they say about 13,000 years ago.
Please keep to the subject of discussion.
justice

Godalming, UK

#16 Mar 25, 2013
Tim Upham wrote:
1982 to 1983. The United States was in a cold war at that time, and Americans were terrified that they could be vaporized by incoming Soviet missiles. Where is that fear now? And for that fact, where is the Soviet Union now?
You asked for info on Nasa report - and I gave it to you. Then you reply about the cold war, and Russia.
mmmmmmmmm.
Tim Upham

Nine Mile Falls, WA

#17 Mar 26, 2013
justice wrote:
<quoted text>
You asked for info on Nasa report - and I gave it to you. Then you reply about the cold war, and Russia.
mmmmmmmmm.
Because the NASA report dates from 1982 to 1983. So where is the catastrophic explosion? Because in 1982 to 1983, we where suppose to be vaporized by incoming Soviet nuclear warheads. So where are the incoming Soviet nuclear warheads?
justice

Godalming, UK

#18 Mar 27, 2013
Tim Upham wrote:
<quoted text> Because the NASA report dates from 1982 to 1983. So where is the catastrophic explosion? Because in 1982 to 1983, we where suppose to be vaporized by incoming Soviet nuclear warheads. So where are the incoming Soviet nuclear warheads?
Where was it said that there is going to be a catastrophic explosion?

You are misunderstanding what Nasa stated.
Please read carefully, Nasa discovered another planet way out in space beyond Pluto, at this moment it is not near enough to cause damage.
It is not going to be a catastrophic explosion. The planet will not crash into earth, and I have never stated that fact.
At the original collision when the planets were being formed and jostling for their orbits, that is when the crash was. But because we were pushed off our original orbit, the Earth is no longer on the same orbit as the rogue planet.

Like in the flood of Noah, which caused a global flood, nearly 13,000 years ago in the age of Leo.g

History is getting ready to repeat itself..
When Nibiru gets close enough to Earth it will cause magnetic forces that will rock the earth to and fro, and cause the sun to set at noon.
It happens very fast in seconds, one minute the sky is blue with white clouds, and the next the skies begin to go pink and in seconds the skies are plunged into a blood colour sky. When this happens then the stars begin to show up in the blood red coloured sky; and appear to be gliding about the sky, but in reality it is the earth being rocked to and fro, so that it appears the stars are moving. At that stage then a misty sphere appears in the sky.
One thing I do know and that is there will be survivors, and those will be the meek of the earth.
The filth of humanity and all which that includes will be washed away in the global flood. The earth will have a thorough cleansing.
The righteous will be in a place of safety off the ground. And let me make it clear what I mean so that there is no misunderstanding. I do not mean that people will be caught up in the sky to be with Jesus which Christianity refer to as the rapture. My goodness; without protective space craft, they would be dead in seconds they would be unable to stand the pressure, and their blood will begin to boil in seconds and it would not be eternal life, but eternal death.

If you want to know how the righteous are saved I will let you know if you are interested.
Tim Upham

Nine Mile Falls, WA

#19 Mar 27, 2013
I suppose Amelia Earhart is still alive too. If she was, she would be 116 years old.

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