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The-principal

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Apr 14, 2013
 
Are School teachers overpaid and underworked? No abuse to teachers please as they did not make up the rules. Enumerate and discuss.
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Apr 14, 2013
 
Yes of course they have the option to lay around for a few months, or have a teaching job and another job, and then another job outside that all. They are well paid, if maybe the manged their own money better like they are always telling us.
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Apr 18, 2013
 

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Reduce their salaries by 40%. They should be relocated during four months of summer into other civil service departments. At least they are now paying for their pension. Work hours should be increased to 39 hours a week, the standard for private industry. Furthermore, all tax free expenses should be ceased with immediate effect. For semi skilled workers they have a rather cushy number.

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relative is a teacher spends the summer months abroad getting full pay load of bollix

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You lot havent a clue about what teachers do, they have an incredibly stressful job dealing with your little shits, then they have to go home at night and spend their evenings correcting work and making lessons plans. All im reading above is typical ignoramous uneducated bitter idiot attitudes.

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Apr 19, 2013
 
SPL wrote:
Yes of course they have the option to lay around for a few months, or have a teaching job and another job, and then another job outside that all. They are well paid, if maybe the manged their own money better like they are always telling us.
Your a fookin druggie you dont even deserve an opion ya waste of a life

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Apr 19, 2013
 
The -Principal wrote:
Reduce their salaries by 40%. They should be relocated during four months of summer into other civil service departments. At least they are now paying for their pension. Work hours should be increased to 39 hours a week, the standard for private industry. Furthermore, all tax free expenses should be ceased with immediate effect. For semi skilled workers they have a rather cushy number.
So whats your profession?
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You lot havent a clue about what teachers do, they have an incredibly stressful job dealing with your little shits, then they have to go home at night and spend their evenings correcting work and making lessons plans. All im reading above is typical ignoramous uneducated bitter idiot attitudes.
ignorant cun t.

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Apr 20, 2013
 
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ignorant cun t.
Yes yes Im an ignorant cun t! would you care to develop the point about why im ignorant and not the idiot who suggests we cut teacher pay 40%.
Do ya even realise what that would mean? It means that no intelligent people would ever do the job, it would only attract plebs and idiots, that in turn would mean that the kids wouldnt get a proper education and then in a generations time there would be nobody making the decent money that keeps this country afloat and there would be no money to pay the dole so the dumb cun ts on this site can afford to sit at home all day while the likes of teachers go out and do a good days work that is invaluble to society and pays ttax so the idiots can draw dole
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Apr 20, 2013
 
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Your a fookin druggie you dont even deserve an opion ya waste of a life
Ignorant cun't.
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Apr 20, 2013
 
Teaching is a semi skilled qualification. One does not have to be bright to secure the HDIP. I am on ten times the salary of a teacher, employ eight people, pay Income Tax, PRSI( Class A1), Company Prsi, Corporation Tax, USC, Paye and BIF. I have no security of tenure, unlike teachers who cannot be dismissed. I work 90 hours a week and love it. Teachers underperforming should be removed from the system and its high time that they pay for their own pension's, with the recent introduction of the pension levy. It applies to all civil servants. To state that all peopel working pay for persons in receipt of welfare from the Department of Social & Family Protection, is a bit unfair to say the least. Yes, you will always get a certain element, but to call them idiots is ignorance of the highest degree. In fairness to teachers who perform well, they shoule be rewarded with suitable bonuses. Prior to 2002, Teachers were paid 40% lower than the private sector which was the price for a job for life. Bench marking has caused this difficulty and Croke Part II should be implemented. If not legislation should be passed to reducl all civil servants salaries by 7%. Private sector have had enough. Finally, reputable US Multinational Companies have displayed their dissatification in the lowering of the educational standards in Ireland, which is a pity. Finally, the average pay for a teacher in New York is $40,000. The gravy train for Civil Servants is over. Even Jack O'Connor, head of SIPTU is intelligent enough to see what is coming down the tracks. Its gob shites like you who have destroyed this country with your narrow minded approach that should be 'slung out'.
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Apr 20, 2013
 
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Teaching is a semi skilled qualification. One does not have to be bright to secure the HDIP. I am on ten times the salary of a teacher, employ eight people, pay Income Tax, PRSI( Class A1), Company Prsi, Corporation Tax, USC, Paye and BIF. I have no security of tenure, unlike teachers who cannot be dismissed. I work 90 hours a week and love it. Teachers underperforming should be removed from the system and its high time that they pay for their own pension's, with the recent introduction of the pension levy. It applies to all civil servants. To state that all peopel working pay for persons in receipt of welfare from the Department of Social & Family Protection, is a bit unfair to say the least. Yes, you will always get a certain element, but to call them idiots is ignorance of the highest degree. In fairness to teachers who perform well, they shoule be rewarded with suitable bonuses. Prior to 2002, Teachers were paid 40% lower than the private sector which was the price for a job for life. Bench marking has caused this difficulty and Croke Part II should be implemented. If not legislation should be passed to reducl all civil servants salaries by 7%. Private sector have had enough. Finally, reputable US Multinational Companies have displayed their dissatification in the lowering of the educational standards in Ireland, which is a pity. Finally, the average pay for a teacher in New York is $40,000. The gravy train for Civil Servants is over. Even Jack O'Connor, head of SIPTU is intelligent enough to see what is coming down the tracks. Its gob shites like you who have destroyed this country with your narrow minded approach that should be 'slung out'.
could have not said it better my friend.

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Apr 22, 2013
 
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Teaching is a semi skilled qualification. One does not have to be bright to secure the HDIP. I am on ten times the salary of a teacher, employ eight people, pay Income Tax, PRSI( Class A1), Company Prsi, Corporation Tax, USC, Paye and BIF. I have no security of tenure, unlike teachers who cannot be dismissed. I work 90 hours a week and love it. Teachers underperforming should be removed from the system and its high time that they pay for their own pension's, with the recent introduction of the pension levy. It applies to all civil servants. To state that all peopel working pay for persons in receipt of welfare from the Department of Social & Family Protection, is a bit unfair to say the least. Yes, you will always get a certain element, but to call them idiots is ignorance of the highest degree. In fairness to teachers who perform well, they shoule be rewarded with suitable bonuses. Prior to 2002, Teachers were paid 40% lower than the private sector which was the price for a job for life. Bench marking has caused this difficulty and Croke Part II should be implemented. If not legislation should be passed to reducl all civil servants salaries by 7%. Private sector have had enough. Finally, reputable US Multinational Companies have displayed their dissatification in the lowering of the educational standards in Ireland, which is a pity. Finally, the average pay for a teacher in New York is $40,000. The gravy train for Civil Servants is over. Even Jack O'Connor, head of SIPTU is intelligent enough to see what is coming down the tracks. Its gob shites like you who have destroyed this country with your narrow minded approach that should be 'slung out'.
How do you reckon that teaching is semi skilled? ridiculous! What do they spend four years in college doing? Why is it a pity that US multinationals have displayed dissatisfaction with lowering of education standards? you do realise that a very well educated english speaking workforce along with corp tax rates are the reason those companies come here
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Apr 22, 2013
 
what an ars e hole. A teacher is semi skilled, lecturer no. Big difference mate. Shows you how little you know about Corporation tax and Advanced Corporation tax. Stick to the school class mate.

Hey yard, this guy is only fit to sweep the school grounds.

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Apr 22, 2013
 
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what an ars e hole. A teacher is semi skilled, lecturer no. Big difference mate. Shows you how little you know about Corporation tax and Advanced Corporation tax. Stick to the school class mate.
Hey yard, this guy is only fit to sweep the school grounds.
Ha ha I really find it funny that your telling me to "stick to the school class" when you cant even read or understand what im writing!!, so you would you like to back up anything your saying with facts or even a bit of logic. Where did you get lecturer out of? I didnt mention it ! In case you dont realise teachers at all levels go to college.
And whats wrong with my assessment of why multinational come to ireland? low corporation tax is the main reason.
Do you have much of an education yourself? If you do... let me guess you studied business in somewhere like T.I.T. you struggled through it and now you cant get a job and your on the dole. You sir are an absolute pleb, next time you pick an argument with someone try actually reading all that they have said... ya fooking thick
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Apr 22, 2013
 
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Ha ha I really find it funny that your telling me to "stick to the school class" when you cant even read or understand what im writing!!, so you would you like to back up anything your saying with facts or even a bit of logic. Where did you get lecturer out of? I didnt mention it ! In case you dont realise teachers at all levels go to college.
And whats wrong with my assessment of why multinational come to ireland? low corporation tax is the main reason.
Do you have much of an education yourself? If you do... let me guess you studied business in somewhere like T.I.T. you struggled through it and now you cant get a job and your on the dole. You sir are an absolute pleb, next time you pick an argument with someone try actually reading all that they have said... ya fooking thick
Hit a nerve, enough said..........
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Apr 22, 2013
 
scarlets mas scutter should be documented

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Apr 23, 2013
 
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Hit a nerve, enough said..........
Hit a nerve? What are you on about? Would you care to develop your point or are you the same as the rest of the knuckle draggers on here that can make a statement but cant back it up with a bit of logic?.....id say its more like I hit a nerve with you ya thick
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Apr 23, 2013
 
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Hit a nerve? What are you on about? Would you care to develop your point or are you the same as the rest of the knuckle draggers on here that can make a statement but cant back it up with a bit of logic?.....id say its more like I hit a nerve with you ya thick
spot on bro..... not the place for this type of topix.........mind u using that language to support the taeching is not really the best is it?

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Apr 23, 2013
 
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Hit a nerve, enough said..........
I have been a teacher for the past 15 years. While it is not regarded as a professional qualification, it is a profession. It take's a certain type of disciplined person to carry out the duties of teaching. Don't blame us for the 'Bench Marketing'. We work late nights at teachers meetings, for no additional pay. Name others that would do this? None, right.

The private sector do not appreciate the savage cuts we have been subjected to over the years. Take the Pension Levy. My take home pay is down by 150.00 per week. Now thats all very fine, but public servants like private industry borrowed in that period, not realising that the economy was going to crash to this extent. Now the shortfall is having a devestating effect on public sectors.

One very good point you made is that if public servants take a hit of 300m, that is going to have a devestating effect on retail vat. Less cash on the streets, all private businesses affected.

So lads, were all in the same boat.

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