Australian takes seriously Indonesian...

Australian takes seriously Indonesian spy concerns

There are 266 comments on the WHDH story from Nov 18, 2013, titled Australian takes seriously Indonesian spy concerns. In it, WHDH reports that:

Foreign Minister Julie Bishop said Tuesday her government took "exceedingly seriously" Indonesian concerns about allegations Australia tapped the phone of Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono and other senior figures.

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“REFUSE ALL IMITATIONS!!”

Since: Jan 11

Australia

#255 Nov 23, 2013
why wrote:
Your question has been answered by the comments of some people above.
Please, you read the all comment :)
This is your way of dodging comments that do not look good for Indonesia. You want to hide yourself in comments you like better, and you want everyone else to follow you there.

Are one-sided arguments a cultural tradition where you come from?
dreamer

Camperdown, Australia

#256 Nov 23, 2013
Ordinary Indonesian wrote:
<quoted text>
The Master mind of the Bali bombing is Malaysians by the name of Nurdin M. Top and Dr. Ashari ,,, you should address all you hatred to your commonwealth brothers the Malaysians !!!
We are just simple people ,,, you smile we smile ,,, you betrait us over Timor we will never forget ! even so we assisted you by resisting China when your Timor brothers are teasing you in planning to allow China to set-up their Naval station in Timor ?
We never expose the oil pollution from your so called Timor explorations ,,, that ruin some of our beautiful beaches and displace many fishermen villages ,,, and you call us "Ignorant idiots" ???
You supported the US in bombing and destroying Iraq and Afghanistan, and now those poor people are comming to your country as illegal immrigrants,, and yet you blamed us for all your SHITS ,,, you immigrants are kicking out immigrants and blaming us??????????
I feel sorry for you !!!
Don't bother 'feeling sorry' for me. Instead, concentrate on growing up.

1. I do not 'hate' Indonesians.

2. The Malaysians are not my 'brothers'.

3. Abu Bakar Bashir is an Indonesian. He also founded another terrorist group when he split from JI. The govt. should have had him under heavy surveillance.

4. Get it right. You called a poster here an 'ignorant idiot', I redirected the insult at you. That's what happens when you throw personal insults at others - you leave the door open to be insulted yourself.

5. We 'blame' you for making money from assisting would be 'asylum seekers' to enter Australian waters. Indonesia pretends to tackle people smugglers but in fact does nothing. So the Indonesian govt is accepting Australian money under false pretences.
Ten nine eight seven

Wentworthville, Australia

#257 Nov 23, 2013
why wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, do not start burning the atmosphere, I also from Indonesia. We're here to exchange thoughts!, for solving the problem, and avoid divide and conquer "jangan sampai tersabotase politik adu-domba"
Accept our long range missiles, savage,,
while we liberate the oppressed non Javanese who are the majority and give them back true god and self detemination.

Since: Nov 13

Location hidden

#258 Nov 23, 2013
Just don't never ever complain when Indonesia, or China, or Germany, or someone else spies on Australia, and USA. It's been justified.

And Australia might sign that they will never spy on Indonesia again, but Indo won't sign the same thing ?

Ozy Ozy Ozy
dreamer

Camperdown, Australia

#259 Nov 23, 2013
Sir Vix wrote:
Just don't never ever complain when Indonesia, or China, or Germany, or someone else spies on Australia, and USA. It's been justified.
And Australia might sign that they will never spy on Indonesia again, but Indo won't sign the same thing ?
Ozy Ozy Ozy
a. Indonesia has been spying on Australia since Timor.

b. Chinese industrial and military espionage is well documented eg

"Chinese Hackers Breach U.S. Weapon Systems And Steal Australia’s New Spy Headquarters’ Blueprints

Meanwhile in Australia, hackers linked to China stole the floor plans of the $630 million new headquarters for its Security Intelligence Organization, the country’s domestic spy agency. But the building layouts were not the only thing exposed, the location of communication and computer networks were also included. Des Ball, Australia security analyst, told ABC that such information made the spy headquarters vulnerable to future cyber attacks"

This is a good excuse for Indonesia to continue the 'asylum seeker' racket.
tellsumbodywhoca res

Baulkham Hills, Australia

#260 Nov 23, 2013
Sir Vix wrote:
Just don't never ever complain when Indonesia, or China, or Germany, or someone else spies on Australia, and USA. It's been justified.
And Australia might sign that they will never spy on Indonesia again, but Indo won't sign the same thing ?
Ozy Ozy Ozy
Everybody spies on each other. "Monitoring" whatever, it's all public relations rhetoric.

Indonesia is currently spying on seventeen different countries (and that's coming from INdonesia) and are ramping up their spying.

I couldn't care less except their phoney outrage is hypocritical.
Joe

Brisbane, Australia

#261 Nov 23, 2013
Who cares what Indonesia thinks. They get Too Much money off us. More than we earn in exports to them. China will eventually invade Indonesia. We have pumped Billions of dollars into this corrupt country to help them in humanterian crisis. After the next Indonesian elections a New Party will come to power that hates the hell out of Australia---So get used to it now. Anyway Who Cares we can use the 600mil we give them every year to discount our beef exports to other nations. We only earn 175Mil from those exports now. As for refugees they will all get into a big Bum fight on Nauru and Manus Islands we hope and execute each other. Its at Boiling point there now, and they are NOT coming to Australia. When they do get into a Bum fight the New Guinea Police and Army (Ex-Head Hunters) we clean them all up. May God Bless New Guinea---Helped save us from the Japs in WW2.
jumpingaround

Indonesia

#262 Nov 23, 2013
dreamer wrote:
<quoted text>
a. Indonesia has been spying on Australia since Timor.
b. Chinese industrial and military espionage is well documented eg
"Chinese Hackers Breach U.S. Weapon Systems And Steal Australia’s New Spy Headquarters’ Blueprints
Meanwhile in Australia, hackers linked to China stole the floor plans of the $630 million new headquarters for its Security Intelligence Organization, the country’s domestic spy agency. But the building layouts were not the only thing exposed, the location of communication and computer networks were also included. Des Ball, Australia security analyst, told ABC that such information made the spy headquarters vulnerable to future cyber attacks"
This is a good excuse for Indonesia to continue the 'asylum seeker' racket.
a. Indonesia was spayed on you only once!!... and that was when Australia and Indonesia at a war, so your claim of Indonesia spying is nonsense, that is only your excuses to twist the facts and to make you look better, but hey, this is an open world, right?, so no point to make such hypocrisy...
jumpingaround

Indonesia

#263 Nov 23, 2013
dreamer wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't bother 'feeling sorry' for me. Instead, concentrate on growing up.
1. I do not 'hate' Indonesians.
2. The Malaysians are not my 'brothers'.
3. Abu Bakar Bashir is an Indonesian. He also founded another terrorist group when he split from JI. The govt. should have had him under heavy surveillance.
4. Get it right. You called a poster here an 'ignorant idiot', I redirected the insult at you. That's what happens when you throw personal insults at others - you leave the door open to be insulted yourself.
5. We 'blame' you for making money from assisting would be 'asylum seekers' to enter Australian waters. Indonesia pretends to tackle people smugglers but in fact does nothing. So the Indonesian govt is accepting Australian money under false pretences.
1. yes you don't hate Indonesians, but you always look down on us, you called us brown monkeys ect ect, that was no hate, okay...

3. that one who called Abu bakar Bashir, your very obsessed person on this planet is still in jail till I posts this comment...

5. prove it!...
dreamer

Camperdown, Australia

#264 Nov 23, 2013
jumpingaround wrote:
<quoted text>
a. Indonesia was spayed on you only once!!... and that was when Australia and Indonesia at a war, so your claim of Indonesia spying is nonsense, that is only your excuses to twist the facts and to make you look better, but hey, this is an open world, right?, so no point to make such hypocrisy...
"Indonesia was spayed on you only once"

And how do you know that? Are you member of BIN?

Indonesia has no real reason to spy on Australia - no Indonesians have been murdered by religious fanatics on Australian soil; Australia does not facilitate people smuggling to Indonesia, nor do we allow terrorists like JI to operate on Australian soil. But it's an accepted fact (among more perceptive people) that every country has its own intelligence apparatus, including Indonesia.

"Mr Hendropriyono, the head of Badan Intelijen Negara (BIN) until 2004, has been thrust into the Australian political debate because of a TV interview he gave in 2004, in which he admitted to bugging Australian politicians."

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/politi...
dreamer

Camperdown, Australia

#265 Nov 23, 2013
jumpingaround wrote:
<quoted text>
1. yes you don't hate Indonesians, but you always look down on us, you called us brown monkeys ect ect, that was no hate, okay...
3. that one who called Abu bakar Bashir, your very obsessed person on this planet is still in jail till I posts this comment...
5. prove it!...
Now you're just lying. I have never called Indonesians 'brown monkeys'(or anything similar), so either cite the post where I supposedly said that or apologise for fabricating lies.

“REFUSE ALL IMITATIONS!!”

Since: Jan 11

Gosford, Australia

#266 Nov 23, 2013
jumpingaround wrote:
<quoted text>
5. prove it!...
Australia gave Indonesia a few patrol boats for the purpose of controlling people smuggling. Want to check where those patrol boats are now?

They only ever cruise waters between islands far north of where boat people always depart for Australia. They are not being used for their intended and declared purpose but instead as joy-riding toys.

It's as if they *don't want to* encounter asylum seeker boats.
SBY Abbott letter reveal

Australia

#267 Nov 23, 2013
SBY Abbott letter reveal | 1 min ago
Jakarta Today UPN news : Sunday
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The President's office today recieved a letter from the Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott in response to spying allegations that occured 5 years ago and that have been common knowledge in the public domain for 5 months.
In the letter Mr Abbott outlined why the Indonesian President was a liar and manipulator of the facts, that in fact the USA not Australia had performed the survelliance and that Indonesia had
blatantly spied on Australia prior to this.
Mr Abbott also outlined how despite agreement and some $9.6 billion of 'shakedown' money being provided to indonesia in the last 6 years - the indonesian corrupt goverment & army had increased the active transit & support of illegal Muslim asylum seekers as part of their Islamic jihad and transmigrati program to flood Australia with unskilled ignorant religious fanatic benefit seekers.
Mr Abbott also detailed the shocking human rights record of Indonesia whose regime has now murdered an estimated 850,000 in Timor, Papau, Kalimantan, Sulawasi, Banda Sea and Aceh. All people's and areas that have been denied self determination by the corrupted javanese despot regime.
Mr Abbott finally detailed the transcripts of the surveillance which showed a vast scale of corruption and human trafficking including all of the indonesian political elite, their families & the army complicit in this.
The letter concluded that australia would continue it's spying on the corrupt regime and would now actively assist the areas in rebellion to self determination. Australia & USA missiles were ready and a joint warship fleet was on the way to protect key areas of interest to the free
world.
Any further belligerence or 'internal politicking with false claims by any indonesians - will be met with a 'hard and swift show of force' to outline australia's position.
Tony then wished the president a Merry
Xmas and God Jesus & the Holy Spirit will now be among the people of the south seas : that being the divine purpose of the Australia & USA mission to liberate these people from the evil of islam & Javanese subgation.
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The presidential palace has yet to respond.

It is believed they have either fled out of the country to secure their looted billions, or are seeking advice in how to evade the Hague war crimes tribunal for the over 1 million people murdered by the corrupt & despotic regime.
Ramu Singh

Winnipeg, Canada

#268 Nov 23, 2013
Aussies have to rely on immigration because of their low IQ which is a result of inbreeding of their criminal forefathers. LOL!
dreamer

Camperdown, Australia

#269 Nov 23, 2013
Ramu Singh wrote:
Aussies have to rely on immigration because of their low IQ which is a result of inbreeding of their criminal forefathers. LOL!
People like you make me laugh - you never see what stupid hypocrites you are or how you come across to westerners.

Indians have to rely on emigration because they overpopulated their country to the point where it's unlivable and they need to get rid of their surplus people. So they import them to western countries although the citizens of these countries don't want them.

Funny that they always choose to flee to countries created by 'criminals' and 'white thieves' isn't it. What would you do without us?

Maybe you'd be forced to act like rational human beings, limit your population and stop victimising females and the poor.

Since: Nov 13

Location hidden

#271 Nov 24, 2013
dreamer wrote:
<quoted text>
a. Indonesia has been spying on Australia since Timor.
b. Chinese industrial and military espionage is well documented eg
"Chinese Hackers Breach U.S. Weapon Systems And Steal Australia’s New Spy Headquarters’ Blueprints
Meanwhile in Australia, hackers linked to China stole the floor plans of the $630 million new headquarters for its Security Intelligence Organization, the country’s domestic spy agency. But the building layouts were not the only thing exposed, the location of communication and computer networks were also included. Des Ball, Australia security analyst, told ABC that such information made the spy headquarters vulnerable to future cyber attacks"
This is a good excuse for Indonesia to continue the 'asylum seeker' racket.
I understand you spying on your enemies like the Taliban, or north Korea.

Did you forget you're spying on your friends. They will think you don't trust them.

It's becoming an expensive mistake, and I don't think this love letter Tony Abbott is writing the Indonesian president will help.

Since: Jan 12

Where The Wild Things Grow

#272 Nov 24, 2013
The ADELAIDEAN wrote:
<quoted text>
Australia gave Indonesia a few patrol boats for the purpose of controlling people smuggling. Want to check where those patrol boats are now?
They only ever cruise waters between islands far north of where boat people always depart for Australia. They are not being used for their intended and declared purpose but instead as joy-riding toys.
It's as if they *don't want to* encounter asylum seeker boats.
Yes, but we can't be enraged about that - apparently our role is just to keep on giving.
the ABC sucks

Brisbane, Australia

#274 Nov 26, 2013
robin hates batman wrote:
@abc: I can predict that after 2 month indonesia-australia will shake hand smiling each other than promptly back to bussines.... the 2 nation need each other.. cattle,cpo,oil,etc are too importand compere to this political shit.. it will happend trust me ha ha ha ha we all waisting time in topix ha ha
Actually I agree with you. I can't see this being a long term problem.
dreamer

Camperdown, Australia

#275 Nov 26, 2013
Sir Vix wrote:
<quoted text>
I understand you spying on your enemies like the Taliban, or north Korea.
Did you forget you're spying on your friends. They will think you don't trust them.
It's becoming an expensive mistake, and I don't think this love letter Tony Abbott is writing the Indonesian president will help.
Indonesia is our neighbour and our largest trading partner.

That does not make Indonesia our friend.

“Don't give up before U try it”

Since: Jan 11

Tasmania, Australia

#276 Nov 28, 2013
dreamer wrote:
<quoted text>
Indonesia is our neighbour and our largest trading partner.
That does not make Indonesia our friend.
it's ok... if u not we are not too. thats really fair

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