Indonesian Muslims Told to Prepare fo...

Indonesian Muslims Told to Prepare for Religious War

There are 135 comments on the www.persecution.org story from Jun 29, 2010, titled Indonesian Muslims Told to Prepare for Religious War . In it, www.persecution.org reports that:

Washington, D.C. (June 29, 2010)–International Christian Concern (ICC) has learned that in Bekasi, Indonesia, hard-line Muslims are taking steps toward an impending religious war with Christians ...

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ksf

Since: Aug 07

Hobart, Australia

#132 Nov 26, 2010
Naman wrote:
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You seem to be a Muslim - Muslims see only what they want on themes they do not like. I have answered this even if you do not want to see it.
Typical for Muslims also is to blame anything on the West and especially the US. But on all those three "incidents" it was Indonesian Muslims who did the mass murder - and at least in the case of East Timor even the regular army was involved. The same is the case in the atrocities you have refrained to commenty on: In the Indonesian part of New Guinea and what still goes on there.
http://www.1000mistakes.com
You're hilarious! I must be Muslim because I dare question the accuracy of claims you have made?
You keep repeating these vague claims but refuse to give any specifics. Just provide one bit of evidence to support your claim that these incidents are related to religion - just one!
You can't because each of the incidents you have referred to was unrelated to religion.
(There have been many other incidents related to religion in Indonesia, mostly Muslims killing Christians or Christians killing Muslims, but these have been on a much smaller scale and you obviously do not know about them because you are ignorant on this subject.)

ksf

Since: Aug 07

Hobart, Australia

#133 Nov 26, 2010
Naman wrote:
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The history is well known - all the 3 mentioned "incidents". If you want to claim religion was not involved, so please documents it. Half claims are not not enough, even though unproved claims is a normal Muslim technic of debate. Proves please!
http://www.1000mistakes.com
Prove the absence of something????wtf??? You still haven't even explained what you meant by an incident "30 or 40 years ago", or another one "a few years ago". Be specific in your claims and I will address them.

Since: Dec 10

Jakarta, Indonesia

#135 Dec 22, 2010
give us the fact

not only talk in this forum

Indonesia is the piece contry

i know and belive it :)
Garuda

Jakarta, Indonesia

#136 Dec 22, 2010
i'm Indonesian and alson a Christian. event that occurred in Bekasi was a mistake made by parties who want to provoke the religions in our country. but a sense of nationalism of our country is very high and we will not be affected by the incident. but still, most of Indonesian (from 5 religions) still respect each other.
muhamad

Jakarta, Indonesia

#137 Dec 22, 2010
I'm Moslem, I'm Indonesian, and I'm proud of it.

Believe me my brother, I know more than you know how many people (our people) died because of west or Christian invader. Please read our history. This topic is bullshit.
Naman

Oslo, Norway

#139 Mar 26, 2011
ksf wrote:
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You're hilarious! I must be Muslim because I dare question the accuracy of claims you have made?
You keep repeating these vague claims but refuse to give any specifics. Just provide one bit of evidence to support your claim that these incidents are related to religion - just one!
You can't because each of the incidents you have referred to was unrelated to religion.
(There have been many other incidents related to religion in Indonesia, mostly Muslims killing Christians or Christians killing Muslims, but these have been on a much smaller scale and you obviously do not know about them because you are ignorant on this subject.)
Not because you answer, but because of the way you answer. As for my knowledge to the region there is a bit more than a year since I was in Indonesia - and among others met non-Muslim victims. And there is less than 2 months to my last trip to Malaysia, which is not far off. I do not have access to Indonesian papers, but I do have to Malaysian sometimes, and also in international medias there are news from Indonesia sometimes - and even Malaysian papers more frequently mention killing of non-Muslims in Indonesia than of Muslims, even though there are many more Musliims there, and thus many more potential victims.

As for Islam and politics: Islam is such an essential part of politics in most Muslim countries - even in relatively secular countries like Turkey and Bangladesh (also countries I have visited)- that it is for you to prove that religion is not involved, not for me to prove it is involved.
ibnussabil

Bekasi, Indonesia

#140 Oct 29, 2011
Qul yaa ayyuhalkaafiruun...
Laa a'budu maa ta'buduun...
wa laa antum 'aabiduuna maa a'bud...
wa laa ana 'aabidun maa 'abattum...
wa laa antum 'aabiduuna maa a'bud...
LAKUM DIIENUKUM WALIYADIIENI.

biarkan anjing menghela nafas, pastilah haus mereka meminta tolong.
haha.

ayam berkokok, artilah ajakan buat shalat.
(keristen tidak punya istilah "ayam berkokok burung berkicau' yg punya hari-mau 'pagi')
jahlun.

islam punya, "ayam berkokok tunggu buat shalat subuh", burung berkicau saat mencari 'amal & nafkah", "harimau mengaung akan menerkam siapa yg menganggu".
camkan itu kawan.

peace n' love from HAMBA ALLAH.
tes yaw

Jakarta, Indonesia

#141 Oct 30, 2011
tes karabat deing somoy
Truth Of The Golden Gate

Tangerang, Indonesia

#143 Sep 12, 2012
I'm Chrisitan and I'm Indonesian
If thisz isz true then let that be
I dont join war I want peace and thats all

If This is real would Islam really a peace religion?
Truth Of The Golden Gate

Tangerang, Indonesia

#144 Sep 12, 2012
I'm ready to be killed but I know who will be loved by GOD because I wont fight :)
Jinn Martini

Peabody, MA

#145 Sep 12, 2012
Naman wrote:
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As for Islam and politics: Islam is such an essential part of politics in most Muslim countries - even in relatively secular countries like Turkey and Bangladesh (also countries I have visited)- that it is for you to prove that religion is not involved, not for me to prove it is involved.
Yes, next they'll claim that it i9s the western media that forces them to0 scream Allahu Akbar when they fight and/or kill. it's the same old broken record of denial. You can't listen to what Muslims say, you have to watch what they do because they are natural born deceivers when it comes to communicationg wwith non Muslims because Muhammad was a deceiver as well. People might deceive others if they get really desperate and while they would feel ashamed of havin g to resort to deception, they might feel they had no choice. But Muhammad put a rubber stamp pof approval on deception when he said "war is deceit" and to Muslims, this is a war to make Islam the most powerful and supreme religion on earth. So they indeed DO feel fully justified and completely non ashamed of lying to non Muslims. Muhammad embedded this into their culture. So again, pay no attention at all to what they say, pay all of your attention on what they actually do.
Arya

Ashburn, VA

#146 Feb 23, 2013
We indonesian are nominal muslim our forefather was buddhist hindu and athiest.we follow our old culture and religion of islam
paijolelono

Jakarta, Indonesia

#147 Feb 25, 2013
kalo diperhatiin, banyak juga kawan-kawan dari malesya membantu kawan-kawan endonesa ato sebaliknya, untuk trit-trit jenis ini. Hmmm.... agama telah berhasil menyatukan mereka..... terima kasih yaa Allah....

“No time to forget you”

Since: May 16

Indonesia

#149 May 23, 2016
new comer just see it.
veee99

Jakarta, Indonesia

#150 May 23, 2016
Smile wrote:
Don't jump to conclude.
Don't provoke nor beleive such rumors.
Don't comments if you understand nothing.
Iritating doesn't serve anything good.

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Sure... Good opinion

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