International forces hunt for E.Timor rebel chief

By Lirio da FonsecaDILI - International police and troops in East Timor were searching on Thursday for rebel leader Major Alfredo Reinado after a mass jailbreak raised serious concern about fragile security in ...

[Baucau]

The Ausies and the New Zealand armies knew well the exact position of whereabouts' traitor and terrorist alfredo reinaldo & his supporters. One thing confused me is that they're still searching him around if his whereabouts in the south of Timor Leste, they play an idiot political game to destroy the lives of innocent timorese people.

[Belo]

If the international forces can not do themselves, let the F-FDTL join their colleagues from other nations such as Australia, Portugal, New Zealand to hunt the terrorists down, including the terror leader alfredo reinaldo. Those terrorists are useless, they do not have any ability to contribute to the nation building in Timor Leste. They've only got skills how to murder, destroy and spirit to revolt. It is not worth to keep these state's enemies, cowards and barbaric idiots in Timor Leste. I personally wish that the Ausie Societas will be supportive towards the people of Timor Lest. I feel sad of immature Timorese leaders who kept abusing people's rights to live and get a better education.

[Santos]

Baucau wrote:

The Ausies and the New Zealand armies knew well the exact position of whereabouts' traitor and terrorist alfredo reinaldo & his supporters. One thing confused me is that they're still searching him around if his whereabouts in the south of Timor Leste, they play an idiot political game to destroy the lives of innocent timorese people.

For those who think Alfredo is a terrorist they themselves are the real terrorist. Alfredo did the right thing because there was no justice in the government and FDTL itself. If there is no action there is no reaction, what Alfredo did was a reaction for what I think as an act of a neo colonialism from some of our brothers/sisters from the eastern part of TL. God bless Alfredo.

[Santos]

Belo wrote:

If the international forces can not do themselves, let the F-FDTL join their colleagues from other nations such as Australia, Portugal, New Zealand to hunt the terrorists down, including the terror leader alfredo reinaldo. Those terrorists are useless, they do not have any ability to contribute to the nation building in Timor Leste. They've only got skills how to murder, destroy and spirit to revolt. It is not worth to keep these state's enemies, cowards and barbaric idiots in Timor Leste. I personally wish that the Ausie Societas will be supportive towards the people of Timor Lest. I feel sad of immature Timorese leaders who kept abusing people's rights to live and get a better education.

Dear Belo,
let me tell you, I was in FDTL before so I knew axactly what the leadership within FDTL really was. It was a piece of crap. So you can't expect any thing from FDTL because the leaders in it are lack of knowledge. Some of them can't even speak TETUM which is the united language in TL.
Therefore they act like an idiot, the fact is that when Taur Matan Ruak and lere made wrong decision to kick those innocent soldiers out it trigered civil unrest in May. It is obvious that these leaders must responsible for the problem. They are the real terroriststs. You can't do any thing to capture Alfredo because he did the right thing and he is the hero for east timorese who are hungry for justice.

[Maucolo_Cobra]

Hehehehe...
Santos very chear opinion you put forward there.
If you have chance to read Alfredo's statment in papers and comparing what he is said in foreign medias then, you know exactly he a big layer who is actually un-professional.

I doubt about your acknowledgement of being a member of FDTL. Anywhere in the world there is no democracy in the army. If there is one then please point to me.

If both Taur and Lere are idiot like what you said who are the smartest guy who are able to survive and carry on the fight for independence along side with Xanana about 25 years in the jungle. Without giving up at all. Who are the whom mantain the dicipline for 24 years.

I wonder whether Alfredo is hero or Pahlawan kesiangan yang mimpi siang bolong?

Those innocent Soldiers who got sacked are actually the victims of Salsinha, and Salsinha himself was actually a victim of black money from the Rogerio Lobato's Sandalwood smuggling business. At the same, Salsinha also used by Leandro Isaac, Lasama and other former militia leaders for their political ego and political goals.

please watch a dateline program on the SBS TV online program on: www.sbs.com.au/dateline
Check out: the dateline programa for August 30th, and September 6, 2006.

It will you give the info on the root of the troubles. It will reveal to you who are behind crisis. Please be opened minded, if you are a real East Timor nationalist then you better think twice of picking aside. Timor Leste is one nation, will be one forever. no matter what.

[Santos]

Maucolo_Cobra wrote:

Hehehehe...
Santos very chear opinion you put forward there.
If you have chance to read Alfredo's statment in papers and comparing what he is said in foreign medias then, you know exactly he a big layer who is actually un-professional.
I doubt about your acknowledgement of being a member of FDTL. Anywhere in the world there is no democracy in the army. If there is one then please point to me.
If both Taur and Lere are idiot like what you said who are the smartest guy who are able to survive and carry on the fight for independence along side with Xanana about 25 years in the jungle. Without giving up at all. Who are the whom mantain the dicipline for 24 years.
I wonder whether Alfredo is hero or Pahlawan kesiangan yang mimpi siang bolong?
Those innocent Soldiers who got sacked are actually the victims of Salsinha, and Salsinha himself was actually a victim of black money from the Rogerio Lobato's Sandalwood smuggling business. At the same, Salsinha also used by Leandro Isaac, Lasama and other former militia leaders for their political ego and political goals.
please watch a dateline program on the SBS TV online program on: www.sbs.com.au/dateline
Check out: the dateline programa for August 30th, and September 6, 2006.
It will you give the info on the root of the troubles. It will reveal to you who are behind crisis. Please be opened minded, if you are a real East Timor nationalist then you better think twice of picking aside. Timor Leste is one nation, will be one forever. no matter what.

Hai primo Mau colo, ita bot hanesan Timor oan ida tenque hatene los problema ne'e nia hun, hau hare durante ne'e ita bot iha rai liur deit ne'e duni ita bot naran horon deit ema balun nia kidun. Hau hatete ba ita bot katak problema ne'e mosu tanba discriminasaun husi Falur, Lere ho Taur.(They are the real traitor)
Ita bot percisa hatene katak durante funu ne'e laos Xanana, laos Taur, laos Lere deit maka halo mais povo tomak. quando la ho povo Timor la hetan liberdade.jangan sok tahu tentang masalah ini.
I think you misunderstood my statement. I didn't mention democracy but justice, what I mean justice is soldiers' wellfare and promotion. No armies in the world treat their soldiers like FDTL. Can you tell me which army has all of its commanders from the same place,same tribe or same region? let me tell you in FDTL all the positions, start from section up until battalion are occupied by our brothers from the East. It does not mean that soldiers from the West are idiot, don't know how to lead but it is because commanders from the East are so arrogant and opportunist. They want to take advantage as commanders for themselves and their relatives only, this is injustice and unacceptable behaviour.
I am not like yourself who know something based on what you read from the mass media or internet, I know the problem because I witnessed it by myself.
Do you have any prove about what you mentioned about Reinaldo and Salsinha? or you just made it up because you have nothing better to comment.

[Santos]

Ita labele dun malu se maka sala, se maka los. Ita tenque tur hamutuk hare problema ne'e nia hun. Tansa maka iha petisaun se karik nia kazu/aksi ruma la iha.

[Mahidi Karik]

Santos, your comment is full of nonsense stuff, you've got problems in your own views, you do lack of ability to prescribe things instead of blaming the eastern commanders. They have full rights to lead, if we're all behave like what you view, then we all might end up by trading East Timor's sovereignty and its people to indonesias. Today, we are eastern Timorese, we're proud of our constant struggle to defend our principles, we knew we fought for all the society of Timor, non just for one side, your views is for one side, i am afraid that western people might not have the same views as you do. We knew and struggle from the very beginning for the establishment of Timor Leste, we knew well that we fought for the fundamental rights of Timorese people till today, we regret and fully rejected to destroying our country and our society that define our identity and rights to determin itself as a nation. I'm just sick of your opinion, but again its your freedom of express, however all your views lacking of political consensus. I am afraid, if you are situated in Timor then you might have been one of the gangsters, street fighter, looters, destroyer coz you just DO NOT HAVE HEART for your own country and the people of East Timor. You stupid ass hole.....

[Maria_Almeida]

Mahidi, if you do not grasp the concept of justice, i feel very sorry for you.The way you address to Santos gives me the impression that you are of the opinion that only the 'lorosae's" leaders have the full rights to lead as they please.How dare you speak of sovereignty when East Timor at the moment is swormed by Cubans everywhere!Do you have anything to say about those ignorant cubanos?

Mahidi Karik wrote:

Santos, your comment is full of nonsense stuff, you've got problems in your own views, you do lack of ability to prescribe things instead of blaming the eastern commanders. They have full rights to lead, if we're all behave like what you view, then we all might end up by trading East Timor's sovereignty and its people to indonesias. Today, we are eastern Timorese, we're proud of our constant struggle to defend our principles, we knew we fought for all the society of Timor, non just for one side, your views is for one side, i am afraid that western people might not have the same views as you do. We knew and struggle from the very beginning for the establishment of Timor Leste, we knew well that we fought for the fundamental rights of Timorese people till today, we regret and fully rejected to destroying our country and our society that define our identity and rights to determin itself as a nation. I'm just sick of your opinion, but again its your freedom of express, however all your views lacking of political consensus. I am afraid, if you are situated in Timor then you might have been one of the gangsters, street fighter, looters, destroyer coz you just DO NOT HAVE HEART for your own country and the people of East Timor. You stupid ass hole.....

[Taipan]

Maria_Almeida "East Timor at the moment is swormed by Cubans everywhere!"

Currently there is 120 cuban doctors in TL _DOCTORS
helping the needs of timorese people.

what are you doing towards helping east-timor MARIA? besides siting in front of your computer and writing crap.

[lospalos]

OK. alfredo complaints cause the wage are @#$%@#$ low and so wanted increase in oay. WELL firstly the country is poor, and no matter how well the government manage their cash they cant just pay employees more. Their budget is $80 million a year compared to aus's $500bilion per/year. SO i conclude the millitary cannot afford pay rise, and ALFREDO is to blame. Why the hell he want to go back to ET when hes pay packet as ordinary worker in australia is 50 times greater than the army of FDTL??? First he blamed ALKATIRI and now ramos horta, hes totally crazy. WELL my point is that he planned to take over the country through coup. SOme1 better catch him soon!!!

[lospalos]

Well put it simple ALFREDO wanted to stage coup and take over the country. TEll me whats the point of him going back to ET when his pay packet in australia is 50 times greater than an FDTL soldier. If u want to say that his going back cause he love the country, please..

[Sakunar]

lospalos wrote:

Well put it simple ALFREDO wanted to stage coup and take over the country. TEll me whats the point of him going back to ET when his pay packet in australia is 50 times greater than an FDTL soldier. If u want to say that his going back cause he love the country, please..

Lospalos,

Do you realise that things you say are a reflection of what your values are. In other words you are judging others by your own standards.

This comment of yours suggests that you are moved mostly by financial considerations yourself and therefore you find it inconceivable that another timorese person may want to return to his/her country just for the love of it.

One word of advice from me to you my friend. Think carefully about what you said.

On another issue I hope for Timor's sake that you guys have not chosen your names as a way of diferentiating yourselves as coming from the East or West of the country (i.e. Lospalos, Matebian, Baucau etc) Do not perpetuate this false division of the timorese people. It does not matter who created it or how it was created. Don't fall for it but reject this notion of East-West division as strongly as you can. There is only one Timor-Leste. The Timor-Leste that we all fought (a lot or a little) to free from the indenesian ocupation.

Viva Timor-Leste.

[Timor Oan]

Unotil
Daily Media Review
Saturday 09 Sept, Monday 11 Sept 2006

Former Prime Minister Mari Alkatiri has accused Ramos-Horta of staging a coup d'etat against Fretilin. In response to Horta's statement that Fretilin needs leadership changes, Alkatiri said the current Prime Minister made every possible move to force him out of government and then pretended to present the names of candidates for the premiership knowing he was the one who would become Prime Minister. Speaking during a gathering with Fretilin's Central Committee from the 13 districts on Saturday, Alkatiri clarified to members of his party that the reason he stepped down as Prime Minister was due to the manipulation by the current Prime Minister.

Alkatiri further said Horta knew that Jose Luis Guterres did not have a chance to become Fretilin's secretary general but used a way of dividing Fretilin by siding with the 'Fretilin Group for Changes'. The Secretary General of Fretilin said all members of CCF have agreed to hold a dialogue with ‘Fretilin Group for Changes' or suspend the group for no longer obeying the party's rules.

(TP, STL)

[Santos]

Mahidi Karik wrote:

Santos, your comment is full of nonsense stuff, you've got problems in your own views, you do lack of ability to prescribe things instead of blaming the eastern commanders. They have full rights to lead, if we're all behave like what you view, then we all might end up by trading East Timor's sovereignty and its people to indonesias. Today, we are eastern Timorese, we're proud of our constant struggle to defend our principles, we knew we fought for all the society of Timor, non just for one side, your views is for one side, i am afraid that western people might not have the same views as you do. We knew and struggle from the very beginning for the establishment of Timor Leste, we knew well that we fought for the fundamental rights of Timorese people till today, we regret and fully rejected to destroying our country and our society that define our identity and rights to determin itself as a nation. I'm just sick of your opinion, but again its your freedom of express, however all your views lacking of political consensus. I am afraid, if you are situated in Timor then you might have been one of the gangsters, street fighter, looters, destroyer coz you just DO NOT HAVE HEART for your own country and the people of East Timor. You stupid ass hole.....

Karik o koalia iha hau nia oin hau kapa tiha ona o nia lasan tolun ne'e

[Santos]

lospalos wrote:

OK. alfredo complaints cause the wage are @#$%@#$ low and so wanted increase in oay. WELL firstly the country is poor, and no matter how well the government manage their cash they cant just pay employees more. Their budget is $80 million a year compared to aus's $500bilion per/year. SO i conclude the millitary cannot afford pay rise, and ALFREDO is to blame. Why the hell he want to go back to ET when hes pay packet as ordinary worker in australia is 50 times greater than the army of FDTL??? First he blamed ALKATIRI and now ramos horta, hes totally crazy. WELL my point is that he planned to take over the country through coup. SOme1 better catch him soon!!!

Labele compara TL ho australia, bulak, o nia liafuan ne'e hanesan oportunista, makaku pa. ema hanesan imi ne'e iha TL karik imi nia lasan rahun hotu tiha ona

[Santos]

Hau sadik imi karik imi mane mai ita buka malu iha TL deit. Labele koalia deit iha internet.

[Baucau]

SANTOS NEE HAKARAK HO AMBISAUN BOOT ATU SAI TROKA PRESIDENT E PRIMEIRO MINISTRO TIMOR LESTE NIAN KARIK, MAS CUIDADO LIU CAPACIDADE LAIHA, COMENTA HANESAN EMA BULAK, NAUKTEN NO TRAIDOR HANESAN ALFREDO E SALSINHA NO MALUK SIRA SELUK. IT WOULD BE BETTER IF YOU SHUT YOUR **FCK**ING MOUTH OFF THEN, BULL **censored**, ASSHOLE,SANTOS NEE KALA BADIO BOOT KARIK, O MAK IHA TIMOR KARIK IHA SIRA BE SUNU UMA, NAUK EMA NIA SASAN, FERDIDO E ESTUPIDO BOOT. IMI NAIN TOLU HO RAINADO, SALSINHA NO O RASIK BA TUTAN MALU TIHA BA.

[For the maubere]

even overseas there's a civil war amongst the timorese... how about some constructive suggestions in the box?

[Costa]

hey maluk sira !!! imi keta koalia naran-naran deit iha ema nian rain neba !
situasaun ne'e mosu tamba nain ulun sira iha leten ne'e maka halo, tamba deit sira nian ambisaun atu poder kontinua iha sira nian liman atu ukun to'o tinan 50 to'o ikus sira soran povu kiik sira nebe inocente la hatene buat ida sai fali vitima ba hahalok sira nian.
Buat ida be loro sa'e e loro monu ne'e mosu tamba husi sira nebe maka hakarak hetan simpatia husi povu, sira nebe maka hakarak tur iha kadeira leten atu tur doko ain ba mai to'o la hatene povu nia susar no terus, no hatama osan povo nian tau ba iha sira nian bolsu.
Ne'e duni ami nebe agora hela iha Timor leste husi Loro sa'e to'o Loro monu hakarak tur hakmatek no lakohi terus tan, ne'e duni imi sira nebe hela iha liur ne'e lalika halo propaganda no provoka tun sae atu situasaun ne'e sai manas ba bei-beik.

Santos wrote:

<quoted text>
Dear Belo,
let me tell you, I was in FDTL before so I knew axactly what the leadership within FDTL really was. It was a piece of crap. So you can't expect any thing from FDTL because the leaders in it are lack of knowledge. Some of them can't even speak TETUM which is the united language in TL.
Therefore they act like an idiot, the fact is that when Taur Matan Ruak and lere made wrong decision to kick those innocent soldiers out it trigered civil unrest in May. It is obvious that these leaders must responsible for the problem. They are the real terroriststs. You can't do any thing to capture Alfredo because he did the right thing and he is the hero for east timorese who are hungry for justice.