Iraq war veteran's skull cracked by p...

Iraq war veteran's skull cracked by police at Oakland Occupy demo

There are 48 comments on the www.digitaljournal.com story from Oct 26, 2011, titled Iraq war veteran's skull cracked by police at Oakland Occupy demo. In it, www.digitaljournal.com reports that:

No one has been critically injured in the Occupy Wall Street protests that have swept the world, except for now. A 24-year old Marine veteran was among the demonstrators in Oakland when during a police confrontation his skull was cracked.

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cjrian

United States

#2 Oct 26, 2011
He's been engaging in unAmerican Activities
He's been rashing public lands
He's been ordered by (technical) superiors to vacate
And he's refused

And now he's surprised he has to pay a price?

“You gonna eat that?”

Since: Apr 07

Wasilla, AK

#3 Oct 27, 2011
cjrian wrote:
He's been engaging in unAmerican Activities
He's been rashing public lands
He's been ordered by (technical) superiors to vacate
And he's refused
And now he's surprised he has to pay a price?
You would vacate spontaneously if you saw me coming...and break out in a rash.

“Proud To Be An American”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#4 Oct 27, 2011
Yepper, prior to his head injury he and everybody were warned by the police to vacate the premises. If a crowd does not respond then force is used thus some people may get hurt. I mean, if someone tells you to get out of the middle of a freeway and you stand there like a fool well whose fault is it? Just because this guy is a Marine does not give him a pass. He above the rest should have exercised some common sense and followed orders.
long term unemployed

Acworth, GA

#5 Oct 27, 2011
were they on 12 hour shifts? It's like today your either on a 12 hour shift or short term or long term unemployed. they should even that out so not so many heads are cracked.
hmmmmmmm

Santa Fe, NM

#6 Oct 27, 2011
I thought marines were trained to obey lawful orders. Not all of them obviously.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#7 Oct 27, 2011
cjrian wrote:
He's been engaging in unAmerican Activities
He's been rashing public lands
He's been ordered by (technical) superiors to vacate
And he's refused
And now he's surprised he has to pay a price?
This is a police riot; supporting the junta who have taken over the USA.

And you are a douche to presume any American has to "pay a price" for free speech. This veteran has already paid his price. What a miserable slime you are.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#8 Oct 27, 2011
hmmmmmmm wrote:
I thought marines were trained to obey lawful orders. Not all of them obviously.
It seems you are not trained in making correct presumptions; And, do not understand the First Amendment.
Evilmonger

Evansville, IN

#9 Oct 27, 2011
Blame the idiot who started throwing things at the police. Everyone knows that will get somebody hurt. The sad part is that the worst among the demonstrators will use his 'martyrdom' to drive yet more violence. Any decent people involved in this movement should consider how they are being used.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#10 Oct 27, 2011
Evilmonger wrote:
Blame the idiot who started throwing things at the police. Everyone knows that will get somebody hurt. The sad part is that the worst among the demonstrators will use his 'martyrdom' to drive yet more violence. Any decent people involved in this movement should consider how they are being used.
Who is the idiot who presumes there actually was a person "throwing things" that led to a pre-planned and coordinated police riot?

Who is "getting hurt" in this planned anti-free-speech campaign by the police acting as soldiers of the status quo?
I'll tell you: those exercising free speech.

How don't you get that?
Evilmonger

Evansville, IN

#11 Oct 27, 2011
People have rights to free speech and peaceful assembly. Nothing peaceful about this assembly. If the police get a lawful order to clear the area, that is what they are going to do. The methods and level of force are decided by the actions of the lawbreakers who resist them. Unfortunately, the anarchists and would-be revolutionaries seem to be willing to accept casualties in order to ignore the laws. Reasonable people will not choose to be their cannon fodder.

“i hope we can change this!”

Since: Aug 08

usa

#13 Oct 27, 2011
Mr_Bill wrote:
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Who is the idiot who presumes there actually was a person "throwing things" that led to a pre-planned and coordinated police riot?
Who is "getting hurt" in this planned anti-free-speech campaign by the police acting as soldiers of the status quo?
I'll tell you: those exercising free speech.
How don't you get that?
you're a close minded, blinder wearing moron.
it's ALWAYS the same with you, isn't it, bill?
there are 2 sides to every story...
your side, and the wrong side.
i still remember your rants about loughner being a right wing zealot under sarah palin's control...
YOU had no clue what happened in arizona, and you have no clue what happened in oakland, or why it happened!

“Open your eyes”

Since: Sep 09

Central Florida

#15 Oct 27, 2011
Evilmonger wrote:
Blame the idiot who started throwing things at the police. Everyone knows that will get somebody hurt. The sad part is that the worst among the demonstrators will use his 'martyrdom' to drive yet more violence. Any decent people involved in this movement should consider how they are being used.
You got video of this?

I have seen the mainstream report that was released by the Chief of Police. However, when looking at independent sources that were there and video captured by the protestors, there is no evidence of this said assualt.

So based on the lack of evidence I have seen, one would conclude that the justification was made up to cover themselves.

“Open your eyes”

Since: Sep 09

Central Florida

#16 Oct 27, 2011
Evilmonger wrote:
If the police get a lawful order to clear the area, that is what they are going to do. The methods and level of force are decided by the actions of the lawbreakers who resist them. Unfortunately, the anarchists and would-be revolutionaries seem to be willing to accept casualties in order to ignore the laws. Reasonable people will not choose to be their cannon fodder.
This is where I disagree with you.

The police took an oath to support and defend the constitution. When US citizens use the rights, at that point, the order by the city is no longer lawful. It is the duty of the police to protect the rights of the citizens. This is not what they did. They violated the rights of the protestors.

No matter which side people fall on, the rights have to be protected. In this case, the police officers should have refused those orders and arrested the ordering person who were ordering them to violate the rights they swore to defend.
Questioner

Abbeville, MS

#17 Oct 27, 2011
The Boston Riot, was an incident on March 5, in which five civilian men were killed. The government had deployed troops in order to protect and support officials attempting to enforce legislation. Amid ongoing tense relations between the population and the government, a mob formed and government forces were assaulted by verbal threats and thrown objects. They fired into the crowd, killing three people and wounding others. Two more people died later of wounds sustained in the incident.

It was called the Boston Riot by the government, what did the mob call it and in what year did it occur?
Questioner

Abbeville, MS

#18 Oct 27, 2011
cjrian wrote:
He's been engaging in unAmerican Activities
He's been rashing public lands
He's been ordered by (technical) superiors to vacate
And he's refused
And now he's surprised he has to pay a price?
I take it that it is unAmerican to refuse orders from your (technical) superiors.
ABN Ortiz

Naperville, IL

#19 Oct 27, 2011
cjrian wrote:
He's been engaging in unAmerican Activities
He's been rashing public lands
He's been ordered by (technical) superiors to vacate
And he's refused
And now he's surprised he has to pay a price?
I haven't seen a stupid comment like yours since geoge bush left office. I hope that cop gets shot while off duty. To break a skull he most likely was shot with a tear gas gun or a bean bag. It was one of those type of gops who probably would like to put himself equal to a war vet. Either way, these cops were given the riot gear to suppress demonstrations against the war. This was intentionally practiced for years to protect the riches intrest of which the populous are now protesting. The greed and repe of our nation by a group of tratorous individuals who would use the same people to go against it's self, hence the police and the riot gear given to them for this occasion.
Evilmonger

Evansville, IN

#20 Oct 27, 2011
Kahoki wrote:
<quoted text>
This is where I disagree with you.
The police took an oath to support and defend the constitution. When US citizens use the rights, at that point, the order by the city is no longer lawful. It is the duty of the police to protect the rights of the citizens. This is not what they did. They violated the rights of the protestors.
No matter which side people fall on, the rights have to be protected. In this case, the police officers should have refused those orders and arrested the ordering person who were ordering them to violate the rights they swore to defend.
The free speech rights of these people were not violated. There is no right to establish squatter camps in the Constitution. Local governments have laws about camping in parks and public places, and these must be obeyed. I think the local governments have bent over backwards to avoid confrontations with these people; perhaps that has emboldened them to claim 'rights' that do not exist.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#21 Oct 27, 2011
carey529 wrote:
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you're a close minded, blinder wearing moron.
it's ALWAYS the same with you, isn't it, bill?
there are 2 sides to every story...
your side, and the wrong side.
i still remember your rants about loughner being a right wing zealot under sarah palin's control...
YOU had no clue what happened in arizona, and you have no clue what happened in oakland, or why it happened!
INSPIRED, NOT UNDER CONTROL. And, I know exactly what the police are doing to free speech.

“Free money is a myth”

Since: Aug 08

Chattanooga, TN

#22 Oct 27, 2011
Questioner wrote:
The Boston Riot, was an incident on March 5, in which five civilian men were killed. The government had deployed troops in order to protect and support officials attempting to enforce legislation. Amid ongoing tense relations between the population and the government, a mob formed and government forces were assaulted by verbal threats and thrown objects. They fired into the crowd, killing three people and wounding others. Two more people died later of wounds sustained in the incident.
It was called the Boston Riot by the government, what did the mob call it and in what year did it occur?
1770 boston massacre you are comparing apples to rhino's here...quit buying the hype on these little goons...their demands are simple "theft by proxy" on the grounds of twisted "fairness"

“Free money is a myth”

Since: Aug 08

Chattanooga, TN

#23 Oct 27, 2011
Mr_Bill wrote:
<quoted text>
INSPIRED, NOT UNDER CONTROL. And, I know exactly what the police are doing to free speech.
..not much..have'nt seen the first tank yet(remember tianamen Square?) nor National Guardsmen (kent state ring a bell?)...and the "protest continues does it not?

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