Border security: It remains a federal...

Border security: It remains a federal responsibility

There are 22 comments on the El Paso Times story from Jul 19, 2010, titled Border security: It remains a federal responsibility. In it, El Paso Times reports that:

Texas Gov. Rick Perry got on his high horse recently with Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano over the matter of border security.

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Order a pizza

United States

#1 Jul 20, 2010
The urgent response to security cannot be handled nor saddled to one agancy at the WAITING for the other.

It's 3am, where are the police/sheriff deputies?

Responding to
or
PRE- empting the criminal trespass that awakened my dogs, and consequently me.

If I had to wait for the feds to respond, I'd be dead.

The last time it took border patrol 27 minutes to traverse 6 miles in order to lose a hot trail.
One that my wife and I had the pleasure to confront and send on their way.

We can depend on us, the illusion of public safety is just that, wasted money in a political nonsensical quicksand.
Prodding the dead

United States

#2 Jul 20, 2010
Getting the feds to fulfill their responsibility is like kicking a dead horse.

They would rather whine about "protecting their turf" than doing their job.

There is no body in the way
--- GO ICE---
Do your friggin' job.

IF you did - Arizona kicking your sorry butt would not be your catalyst.

The big joke is and remains:

"ICE will continue to enforce our nation's immigration laws in a smart, effective way. An inconsistent state-by-state approach to immigration enforcement is not viable and we are actively working with members of Congress from both parties to make necessary reforms to our immigration laws at the federal level. We will continue to work with our state and local law enforcement partners in Arizona and around the country to improve public safety. Enforcing our nation's immigration laws is primarily the responsibility of the federal government and we will continue to do so by focusing our efforts on those who have committed crimes and endanger our communities, on employers who knowingly hire illegal labor, and on combating transnational criminal organizations. "

Last week the director of I.C.E., John Morton, announced he didn't support Arizona's law. The Justice Department has recently challenged the law in federal court, saying that it interferes with the federal government's authority.

---and the reality
of 12 million awaiting your attention
STILL REMAINS!
GrouchyOne

Pittsboro, NC

#3 Jul 20, 2010
A federal responsibility that the federal government refuses to recognize. If people start defending their property from invasion, you can bet that the federal government will exercise their authority against the American citizens in preference for the invaders. What's wrong with this picture?
Left Scratching My Head

Kittanning, PA

#4 Jul 20, 2010
Order a pizza wrote:
The urgent response to security cannot be handled nor saddled to one agancy at the WAITING for the other.
It's 3am, where are the police/sheriff deputies?
Responding to
or
PRE- empting the criminal trespass that awakened my dogs, and consequently me.
If I had to wait for the feds to respond, I'd be dead.
The last time it took border patrol 27 minutes to traverse 6 miles in order to lose a hot trail.
One that my wife and I had the pleasure to confront and send on their way.
We can depend on us, the illusion of public safety is just that, wasted money in a political nonsensical quicksand.
"The last time it took border patrol 27 minutes to traverse 6 miles in order to lose a hot trail.
One that my wife and I had the pleasure to confront and send on their way."

Traverse this:

http://papyr.com/hypertextbooks/comp1/coheren...
wandering in the darkness

El Paso, TX

#5 Jul 20, 2010
Order a pizza wrote:
The urgent response to security cannot be handled nor saddled to one agancy at the WAITING for the other.
It's 3am, where are the police/sheriff deputies?
Responding to
or
PRE- empting the criminal trespass that awakened my dogs, and consequently me.
If I had to wait for the feds to respond, I'd be dead.
The last time it took border patrol 27 minutes to traverse 6 miles in order to lose a hot trail.
One that my wife and I had the pleasure to confront and send on their way.
We can depend on us, the illusion of public safety is just that, wasted money in a political nonsensical quicksand.
Like the old saying goes:

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
Crusader

El Paso, TX

#6 Jul 20, 2010
Of course its a Fed responsibility BUT they aren't going to do anything about it. Except change the laws to give away US citizenship to people who broke our laws to get it.
BESSY_MAE_CULO

El Paso, TX

#7 Jul 20, 2010
Odumbass is counting on the illegal votes to keep him in office . Have you ever heard the statement the government is here to help . Be afraid , very afraid .
OhYeah

El Paso, TX

#8 Jul 20, 2010
I saw in one article (sorry, think it was in Sunday's paper, but don't have it to cite) where ICE would not accept illegals detained by Arizona law enforcement because they didn't have the manpower necessary to handle all of it. Now there is the real reason the Feds don't want local enforcement and why there will be amnesty again.
Bobby

El Paso, TX

#9 Jul 20, 2010
Take this Obama and Holder:

'Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer, claiming to "reject" the Obama administration's assertion that the border is more secure than ever, announced Monday that she's directing $10 million in federal stimulus dollars to tackle smuggling and illegal immigration.'
BESSY_MAE_CULO

El Paso, TX

#10 Jul 20, 2010
Bobby wrote:
Take this Obama and Holder:
'Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer, claiming to "reject" the Obama administration's assertion that the border is more secure than ever, announced Monday that she's directing $10 million in federal stimulus dollars to tackle smuggling and illegal immigration.'
Jan while you are at it just take some more out of Odummer's private stash ! He made more out of the stock sell out from BP.
MrOwl1939

Summerfield, NC

#11 Jul 20, 2010
How can border security be a federal responsiblity when the feds do NOT take responsibility? Number 2 when one looks across the river from Washington D.C. one sees Virginia. When one looks across the river from any point in Texas one sees Mexico. When someone kicks your door in or enters in some way into your house, who is the first line of defense? Texans are responsible for Texas and what happens in Texas. Same in any other state. Disagree with the truth if you so choose but it still doesn't negate the truth. What happens from Brownsville, Laredo and El Paso to the Red and Sabine rivers is the responsibility of Texans first and foremost and with the help of anyone who wants to help.
Get Real

El Paso, TX

#12 Jul 20, 2010
It seems this issue surfaces each election year and then quietly fades away.........When Bush ran for Governor he was all fired up about Border Security, then he got elected and for 8 years you didn't hear a darn thing about it!! He ran for President PROMISING to beef up BORDER SECURITY and for 8 more years all we heard was about WMD in Iraq and his status as the Great DECIDER.......Perry got in on the Bush coat tails and he swore to fight for Border Security but now that his relelection is not as sure as he had thought it would be he is again bringing this topic to the forefront. He has not done one thing since his election about it except castigate states who enact their own laws regarding it when he SHOULD be joining forces with them as should ALL the border states.
But typical of the Republicans they cannot find a common ground even within their own party and would rather fight to keep the "Old Boy's Club" than to work for the good of the Nation. They should be called the Goofball Obstructionists Party.
Dont Expect Much

El Paso, TX

#13 Jul 20, 2010
Yes, this is an election year for Perry and with every twist and turn, you can see the smoke he is blowing up Texans behind. Where was Perry during the Bush years when this problem was becoming a larger problem.

I am tired of Politics first in this country. That is what is destroying our country - all the way from the paid for politicians to high profiteering radio talk show hosts.

Yes, the Feds need to control the border, but I never hear Perry or anybody else say they will take on the business interests in the state that profits from illegals. They lobby to continue for illegals for cheap labor.

The people are angry about all the gangs, drugs (that Americans use and the drug cartels profit from) and illegals disrupting our lives, but don't go expecting the Feds or Perry to do anything about a problem that should have been addressed YEARS AGO until American business and shelter cities like El Paso step up and say no more. After all, our politicians are only doing what their money people expect them to do - blow off the public with more Texas Bull.
BESSY_MAE_CULO

El Paso, TX

#14 Jul 20, 2010
Maybe it is time to SUE Obama for dereliction of office for not doing his job in respect to border security .among other offences
inconvenient truth

United States

#15 Jul 20, 2010
Get Real wrote:
It seems this issue surfaces each election year and then quietly fades away.........When Bush ran for Governor he was all fired up about Border Security, then he got elected and for 8 years you didn't hear a darn thing about it!! He ran for President PROMISING to beef up BORDER SECURITY and for 8 more years all we heard was about WMD in Iraq and his status as the Great DECIDER.......Perry got in on the Bush coat tails and he swore to fight for Border Security but now that his relelection is not as sure as he had thought it would be he is again bringing this topic to the forefront. He has not done one thing since his election about it except castigate states who enact their own laws regarding it when he SHOULD be joining forces with them as should ALL the border states.
But typical of the Republicans they cannot find a common ground even within their own party and would rather fight to keep the "Old Boy's Club" than to work for the good of the Nation. They should be called the Goofball Obstructionists Party.
If you think it's only an inconvenient truth,
come to Ft Hancock;
bring your rifle,pistol,shotgun,ammo
lunches are provided.
cute

United States

#16 Jul 20, 2010
Left Scratching My Head wrote:
<quoted text>
"The last time it took border patrol 27 minutes to traverse 6 miles in order to lose a hot trail.
One that my wife and I had the pleasure to confront and send on their way."
Traverse this:
http://papyr.com/hypertextbooks/comp1/coheren...
scratch this
MrOwl1939

Summerfield, NC

#17 Jul 21, 2010
Nowhere in any of my writings on this thread or any other have I stated border security or any security is left to the governor. It is the responsibility of Texans for the security of Texas. Substitute any name in the place of Texans and Texas meaning any other state. If the governor of any state does not and will not take responsibility for the safety and security of said state and its citizens, the governor should be voted out of office and a governor voted into office who will take responsibility for the citizens and the state. The arrival of all the illegals coming across from Mexico is an invasion and needs to be treated as such.
Not in Texas

El Paso, TX

#18 Jul 21, 2010
While I agree that any Governor that only pays lip service during election years should be voted out of office, you have a Republican party in Texas that could have Mickey Mouse run for any office and that party would vote them in.

Texas is not so much about issues as it is the Good Old Boys maintaining their business structure and power base, while continuing to herd the people like cattle.
Get Real

El Paso, TX

#19 Jul 21, 2010
inconvenient truth wrote:
<quoted text>
If you think it's only an inconvenient truth,
come to Ft Hancock;
bring your rifle,pistol,shotgun,ammo
lunches are provided.
That is the point! I agree with you and it is becoming much the same in El Paso County.

What you missed is that this didn't just happen yesterday it has been on-going for many years but escalating over the period between 2000-2008 to a point we should be calling it an invasion!

Every border state north and south has the right and responsibility to guard it's own borders and yes the prosecution of criminal trespassers is a FEDERAL issue but the crimes they commit is a State issue. Hiring illegals is against Federal law and if the state knows it is being done they need to report it to the FEDS if they in turn do not act within 45 days then the State needs to go in and make the arrests and it would not hurt to take along the press to document the proceeding. The company then needs to be fined and it's hiring officers charged with a felony which is exactly what it is to hire illegal immigrants.

Sadly all that Perry has done is blow hot air about the situation the same as Bush before him........vote his butt out of office!!!
Art

Guatemala City, Guatemala

#20 Jul 21, 2010
Not in Texas wrote:
While I agree that any Governor that only pays lip service during election years should be voted out of office, you have a Republican party in Texas that could have Mickey Mouse run for any office and that party would vote them in.
Texas is not so much about issues as it is the Good Old Boys maintaining their business structure and power base, while continuing to herd the people like cattle.
Hey leave Mickey Mouse out of this. He is smarter then Republicans AND Dumbocrats put together...

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