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Did mining and oil drilling trigger the Haiti earthquake?

There are 40 comments on the IntelliBriefs story from Feb 5, 2010, titled Did mining and oil drilling trigger the Haiti earthquake?. In it, IntelliBriefs reports that:

A writer, performance poet and lawyer, Ezili Danto is founder of the Haitian Lawyers Leadership Network, runs the Ezili Danto website, listserve, eyewitness project, FreeHaitiMovement and the on-line journal, Haitian Perspectives.

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420gryl

Santa Ana, CA

#21 Mar 15, 2010
OMG - I read this, you poor people. You really are this pathetic...It is 'plate tectonics', nothing more.
Peace and love

Elmhurst, NY

#22 Mar 15, 2010
Trust me I'm Haitian, if there was anyone drilling a hole in any wall in Port-au-Prince every one would know. Then to assume that there was drilling for oil in the gulf of Port-au-Prince that no Haitian knew about? Trust me, Haitians would have had a carnaval lasting a whole year to celebrate just for the drilling alone; let alone finding oil, God only knows what kind of partying we would've had.
A friend told me the other day that the earthquake caused the oil to come up through out the gulf of Port-au-Prince, even my own house in the mountain was sitting on oil; I told him I'll keep on praying for that to happen.
Sue

Salem, MA

#23 Mar 15, 2010
420gryl wrote:
I'm not even going to read this thread.
Did Mining and Drilling cause the Hati Quake in 1770's!?
NO
Look you dumbies, take your knowlege of earth sciences from elementary school and get real here.
THE LACK OF EDUCATION IN SCIENCE PROVES HOW REALLY STUPID AMERICANS ARE - 9/11 WAS NOT A CONSPIRACY EITHER. THERE'S NO SANTA CLAUS AND NO GLOBAL WARMING.
Did a science teacher teach you science in elementary school? Since I have not idea where you are from, I cannot possibly know what kind of education you have had. I do know that you misspelled three words in your little rant. What is your science background? I would love to hear your theories about why you believe global warming is not real? Also, before you go bashing scientists for "a lack of education in science" you should learn how to spell first. Also, having a screen name such as "420grly" gives you no credibility at all. It does tell me that you are most likely a pothead though.
TEC

United States

#25 Mar 16, 2010
UHM...How thick is the Earth's crust and what's under it, molten rock. If you take the entire size of the planet, and then look at it's construct, then it becomes obvious. The Earth is like a very soft boiled egg whose shell has been removed, but is still extremely hot. What happens to that egg in your hand if you over handle it? Yes it breaks, it's exterior becomes cracked, it gets damaged, the insides come out. Then you get to eat it too quick and it burns you. If the Earth is moving through space and forces are acting on it, even from very long distances, I would say our little outer shell will be effected. Trying to predict it? Forget it.
Stan

Beaver, WV

#26 Mar 16, 2010
A very interesting theory, but the earth's dynamic systems make it very difficult to predict earthquakes with any real accuracy. We do know where they are likely to occur, i.e. subduction zones, divergence, and convergence zones. But as far as drilling causing earthquakes, I would have to think that would be highly unlikely, though perhaps not impossible. There are tens of thousands of boreholes all across America, and probably millions over the entire world.

In my opinion I would think that the earthquake was just due to where the country lies in relation to its tectonic plates. I think trying to pin earthquakes as a "man-caused" disaster is pretty silly, sounds as if it is just another "enviro-whacko" trying to put more blame on the quest for fossil fuels. Now that the "climate change" theory has been losing a lot of steam, perhaps enviros are trying to find the next "big lie" to push on America.
Stan

Beaver, WV

#27 Mar 16, 2010
I do wish the article would have dealt with facts instead of a bunch of political attacks. I find it disgusting that this article try to blame the earthquake on the Bush administration. And I suppose that he is the cause to of the people in Haiti for starving for the last two hundred years. If Haiti's natural resources are as abundant as they claim, then why are these folks still starving and why don't they have jobs.

I just think its funny how they always try to blame the "white man" for all their problems, but when devistation occurs, we are the first ones they run to expecting us to come and rescue them.

This is the same garbage that the likes of Jesse Jackson and Louis Farrkan have been spewing for decades. When will these people ever take personal responsibility for their actions and when will they stop expecting a handout. Name me one "black" nation that is not in poverty?

“SEMPER FI”

Since: Feb 10

Location hidden

#28 Mar 16, 2010
Al Gore says the earthquake was brought on by global warming, and he needs more funding to help prevent the next one.

Hillary Clinton said the earthquake took a village, but may have had help from Israel!

Democrats say the earthquake was Bush's fault....no pun intended!

Liberals are still waiting for the news report from Air America that it even happened.

Obama is still campaining for the Presidency and not available for comment.

Michell Obama is running for "Mambo Asogwe" on the internet.

Joe Biden is still taunting the Israelies.

Rahm Emanual is selling Haitian children on Ebay to middle eastern men.
Sue

Haverhill, MA

#29 Mar 16, 2010
Stan wrote:
A very interesting theory, but the earth's dynamic systems make it very difficult to predict earthquakes with any real accuracy. We do know where they are likely to occur, i.e. subduction zones, divergence, and convergence zones. But as far as drilling causing earthquakes, I would have to think that would be highly unlikely, though perhaps not impossible. There are tens of thousands of boreholes all across America, and probably millions over the entire world.
In my opinion I would think that the earthquake was just due to where the country lies in relation to its tectonic plates. I think trying to pin earthquakes as a "man-caused" disaster is pretty silly, sounds as if it is just another "enviro-whacko" trying to put more blame on the quest for fossil fuels. Now that the "climate change" theory has been losing a lot of steam, perhaps enviros are trying to find the next "big lie" to push on America.
"There are tens of thousands of boreholes all across America, and probably millions over the entire world". So true, but what would happen if some of these boreholes and oil fields were not built to industry standards? For example, if oil is being pumped out of a field faster than it can be maintained at the proper pressure, could that cause isostatic rebound or subsidence over time?
Stan

Beaver, WV

#30 Mar 17, 2010
Sure, I mean it sounds logical that perhaps in a few isolated cases that drilling could possibly cause an earthquake, but you know as well as I do that there are also many other factors at play, tectonic plate positioning the most important of these. It just offends me when people try and blame a natural event on a particular person or group of people. I mean we drill and mine all over the world, so why should Haiti be treated any different. The rich has always exploited the poor as well, that goes on everyday regardless of race. These things are nothing new. I'm not saying that they are not right. I don't think any human being wants to see another one starving to death, I sure don't. These people in Haiti need a hand up, not a hand out. Handouts do nothing more than make them more dependent and needy, we see that right here in America. We have more poverty today than what we had 50 years ago. Many of these programs that we have to help the poor has only managed to entrap them. You can either realize this and try to make a change or you can continue the great lie that its the "white mans fault" for every evil thing that happens in the world. Personally I'm getting tired of being blamed for everyone else's lack of success in this world.
Sue

Haverhill, MA

#31 Mar 17, 2010
Stan wrote:
Sure, I mean it sounds logical that perhaps in a few isolated cases that drilling could possibly cause an earthquake, but you know as well as I do that there are also many other factors at play, tectonic plate positioning the most important of these. It just offends me when people try and blame a natural event on a particular person or group of people. I mean we drill and mine all over the world, so why should Haiti be treated any different. The rich has always exploited the poor as well, that goes on everyday regardless of race. These things are nothing new. I'm not saying that they are not right. I don't think any human being wants to see another one starving to death, I sure don't. These people in Haiti need a hand up, not a hand out. Handouts do nothing more than make them more dependent and needy, we see that right here in America. We have more poverty today than what we had 50 years ago. Many of these programs that we have to help the poor has only managed to entrap them. You can either realize this and try to make a change or you can continue the great lie that its the "white mans fault" for every evil thing that happens in the world. Personally I'm getting tired of being blamed for everyone else's lack of success in this world.
I love plate tectonics!!!
Cappie

Sioux Falls, SD

#32 Apr 23, 2010
I have a few questions for you Sue.
1)Are you basing your theory to go with facts or just what sounds good?(I'm not trying to be an ass just can't think of a better way of putting it).

2)What are the facts that you are looking at for your theory?

3)Is that all of the facts about quakes?

This one is something my prof. brought up when we had this discussion in class.

4) What if the drilling is helping prevent quakes by releasing some of the build up tension?

Thanks for taking the time to read those,
Cappie
420gryl

United States

#33 Apr 23, 2010
Ah - NO.
That's like saying that gophers digging caused the New Madrid Quake in 1812.
OOOppppsss, none of you know what I'm talking about.
The 1771 quake was not 'triggered' by the same said 'oil' drilling. And where is the drilling? It's a couple of hundred miles to the west.
However, there is a much studied 'venting plume' in the Carribean. Which could mean a new island someday.
4-my-gryl

United States

#34 Apr 23, 2010
Sue wrote:
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Did a science teacher teach you science in elementary school? Since I have not idea where you are from, I cannot possibly know what kind of education you have had. I do know that you misspelled three words in your little rant. What is your science background? I would love to hear your theories about why you believe global warming is not real? Also, before you go bashing scientists for "a lack of education in science" you should learn how to spell first. Also, having a screen name such as "420grly" gives you no credibility at all. It does tell me that you are most likely a pothead though.
~ My daughter used this name in the late 1990's. She died sadly, in a train accident Sept of 2007. I know it has to do with 'pot'. However, I'm a 58 year old grandmother who decries the use of this or any illegal drug. I kept the name because I think of her often. No one in the last 4 years has made mention of it - until now. Your nasty personal remark has made me change the lable.
~ I often transpose letters when typing. My right ring and little fingers were paralized in an accident with a glass door at age 12.
~ My 'rant' Sue, shows my personal frustration with those who believe that there is the remote possibility that Humans cause 'Golbal Warming'.
~ I frankly believe that there is a Giant Race of Gophers that cause Worldwide Earthquakes.- Prove me wrong!
GSBNY

Rockville Centre, NY

#35 Apr 24, 2010
Sue's argument is pathetic. Anthropogenic - LOL!! Some people see savages (who usually can't help themselves anyway) in distress & feel the need to blame someone. This seems like self loathing to me.

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#37 Jun 4, 2010
There aren't any conspiracy theorists or enviro "wackos" here, only scientists discussing science, and a bunch of anti-science morons who don't even know how to write properly, let alone think properly. These people don't have a clue, yet they think they know more about geology than professional geologists. This is part of a mass anti-intellectualism that is causing America to fall behind the other developed countries of the world, and allowing China to get the upper hand on technologies of the future.

“God WANTS you to Evolve!”

Since: May 08

Northern Colorado

#38 Sep 4, 2014
skylights wrote:
There aren't any conspiracy theorists or enviro "wackos" here, only scientists discussing science, and a bunch of anti-science morons who don't even know how to write properly, let alone think properly. These people don't have a clue, yet they think they know more about geology than professional geologists. This is part of a mass anti-intellectualism that is causing America to fall behind the other developed countries of the world, and allowing China to get the upper hand on technologies of the future.
I fully agree. But if Hannity tells her "golbal warming" isn't true, then she has all the "infromation" she needs.
Tigrizon

Denver, CO

#39 Oct 5, 2014
Sue wrote:
My first thought about the Haiti earthquake:
"I wonder if nearby oil exploration and mining stressed the tectonic plates, which sit beneath the Haitian waters, to the point where they caused an earthquake."
But:
Haiti sits above the convergence point of three active tectonic plates that are moving in different directions. Any type of movement could trigger a shift in the plates that sit underneath Haiti, and cause an devastating earthquake. There were many aftershocks that eventually slowed down and then finally stopped. These aftershock events are due to the plates shifting into less stressful positions.
So:
In my opinion, the drilling may have triggered the tectonic plate movement.
How much more revengefully God can be? There is no spectacle on earth more appealing to God than that of an act of decimating sinners for their inequities. Every divine act, every divine deed, makes heavenly exaltation in Heaven. Hence it is long overdue, all sinners in time would be assembled and tormentingly terrorized by his divine power. It is called divine assault, or correctly known as “Act of God”.
Geoscientist

Nicholasville, KY

#40 Oct 8, 2014
Tigrizon wrote:
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How much more revengefully God can be? There is no spectacle on earth more appealing to God than that of an act of decimating sinners for their inequities. Every divine act, every divine deed, makes heavenly exaltation in Heaven. Hence it is long overdue, all sinners in time would be assembled and tormentingly terrorized by his divine power. It is called divine assault, or correctly known as “Act of God”.
Goddamn! Teh stoopid, it burns!!!

http://imgur.com/D0DFQ2l

“God WANTS you to Evolve!”

Since: May 08

Northern Colorado

#41 Oct 20, 2014
Tigrizon wrote:
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How much more revengefully God can be? There is no spectacle on earth more appealing to God than that of an act of decimating sinners for their inequities. Every divine act, every divine deed, makes heavenly exaltation in Heaven. Hence it is long overdue, all sinners in time would be assembled and tormentingly terrorized by his divine power. It is called divine assault, or correctly known as “Act of God”.
Your tinfoil hat appears to have come undone. Shall I call for the orderlies to reattach it?
Tigrizon

Denver, CO

#42 Mar 27, 2015
Sh1tbird wrote:
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Your tinfoil hat appears to have come undone. Shall I call for the orderlies to reattach it?
For centuries, the Bible gave reassuring proof of God in stories of miracles and of punishments. The point of all these stories was to prove that God cared about us so much that He was willing to punish us as a good father will -book of Proverbs and his action to protect those whom he favored and to exterminate those whom he detested. But some of us today when reminded of those divine principles become skeptical. If anything, we find proof of God precisely in the fact that his laws of nature do not change. One of the things that makes his work livable is the fact that the laws of nature are precise and reliable, and always at his disposal. For me, earthquake is an 'act of God.' Destruction is the price we pay for being sinners-with no repentance compliance. Regardless That earthquakes are because of tectonic plate fault. Yes tectonic plate setup in motion by either oil drilling or what have you are still God' s arsenal . Why do I think this? Because in the book of Amos and Proverbs God destroys many places because they have sinned greatly. We are supposed to repent and when we do not do that God will punish us so that we may call his name again and become closer to him. Yes, scientifically earthquakes are because of tectonic plate fault creating disasters, but God created nature. God is God a little bit of a difficult concept for some to grasp, I suppose, God wants them to evolve. But I accept God is all knowing and all powerful and the great creator of everything, I cannot deny that 100% of natural disasters are his in the making. And since he created everything and designed everything down to human nature, he is also responsible for all punishments and miracles.

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