US pastor stuck in Haitian jail witho...

US pastor stuck in Haitian jail without charges

There are 21 comments on the Public Opinion story from Mar 5, 2011, titled US pastor stuck in Haitian jail without charges. In it, Public Opinion reports that:

In this photo courtesy of the Pye Family taken in May 2007, U.S. missionary Danny Pye, right, poses with Haitian children Loudrige, left, and Jabez in Jacmel, Haiti.

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Shiva

Santa Clara, CA

#1 Mar 7, 2011
Just another worthless pedophilic hunk of fund1e filth who got caught with his hand in the till. He CHOSE to go to that cesspool, let him rot there.
pat toms

Broxburn, UK

#2 Mar 7, 2011
it looks as if there is a split in the church ministry and one of his friends has set him up,by reporting him to the local police for something he has allegedly done.
sheila

Saint Paul, MN

#3 Mar 8, 2011
this is the kinda of athority that needs to be be fine tuned. it is very unfair and terrible for this man to be stuck after trying to help them! NO CHARGES....and the fact he could have and still could lose his life with the disease thats killing hundreds of people! what is going-on REALLY??????? all of the imigration laws, rules all need to be checked into, there is a problem! and they only continue to lose life because of poor decisions made by someone???????? they still need help through this!!!!! we cant give-up but offer our help as we did when the earthquake took and turned their country upside down!

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#4 Mar 8, 2011
If you want to be charitable and do the right thing, give your money to people and organizations who are actually trained and qualified to help these people - and actually want to help them - don't go over there on a soulwinning agenda, steal children and expect sympathy.

Yawn - and have some respect for their culture. Not everyone in the world is Christian, it's time for some people to get over that.
Orange Julius Assange

Greencastle, PA

#5 Mar 8, 2011
dam the man
jean

Ronkonkoma, NY

#6 Mar 8, 2011
I'm not surprise what did you expect from an corrupt country likes haiti I could have told you that.now the whole world knows about them corrupt societies
jean

Ronkonkoma, NY

#7 Mar 8, 2011
this is the most ridiculous thing I've never heard of twenty five inmates in a cell and one bucket to use for toilet what if eight of them have to go at the same time and there's only one toilet bucket no wonder they get sick and dying that country is a jerk those so-called corrupt greedy selfish unqualified leaders should be ashamed of themselves corrupt societies
heardenough

Chambersburg, PA

#8 Mar 9, 2011
Effington wrote:
If you want to be charitable and do the right thing, give your money to people and organizations who are actually trained and qualified to help these people - and actually want to help them - don't go over there on a soulwinning agenda, steal children and expect sympathy.
Yawn - and have some respect for their culture. Not everyone in the world is Christian, it's time for some people to get over that.
Effington,

I understand your point of view but let me help you understand a Christian's point of view.

What would you think of a fireman who knew how to fight fires and save lives yet stood by and watched a house burn to the ground, burning to death all the people in it.

It is the work of a Christian to not stand by and watch people go to an eternal fire, but to tell them how they might be saved.

It then becomes their choice. Somehow folks like you just don't get it

heardenough
Dan the Man

Bensalem, PA

#9 Mar 9, 2011
heardenough wrote:
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Effington,
I understand your point of view but let me help you understand a Christian's point of view.
What would you think of a fireman who knew how to fight fires and save lives yet stood by and watched a house burn to the ground, burning to death all the people in it.
It is the work of a Christian to not stand by and watch people go to an eternal fire, but to tell them how they might be saved.
It then becomes their choice. Somehow folks like you just don't get it
heardenough
I think Effington's objection isn't so much that a person just wants to tell others. If one person had told him and left it go at that, I'll bet he wouldn't be complaining.

But that's not what happens. Too many Christians don't stop at just telling once and letting people make up their minds. They continue, over and over and over saying the same thing, NOT trusting people to make up their minds but continuously pounding them over the head with it.

Have you considered that Effington might actually "get it" and still reject it?

Can you show some decent level of respect for someone who knows and is still making a decision NOT to believe?

Can you acknowledge that continuing to beat him over the head is actually driving him FARTHER AWAY from where you want him to be?

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#10 Mar 9, 2011
heardenough wrote:
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Effington,
I understand your point of view but let me help you understand a Christian's point of view.
What would you think of a fireman who knew how to fight fires and save lives yet stood by and watched a house burn to the ground, burning to death all the people in it.
It is the work of a Christian to not stand by and watch people go to an eternal fire, but to tell them how they might be saved.
It then becomes their choice. Somehow folks like you just don't get it
heardenough
Dan actually summed it up quite well - and your comparisons to a firefighter watching a house burn down are invalid.

You can see, hear, feel, and observe a house fire. It's there, and it's irrefutable. A fireman is specifically trained and qualified to fight it.

Hell is an abstract, an idea, a philosophy and a myth. It cannot be seen, felt, heard, or experienced. It is fear of the unknown and a threat used to scare people to your beliefs. And it seems anyone who wants to qualifies themselves to fight it.

The greatest arrogance is truly believing that you know better. As Dan said - feel free to make your beliefs known, but allowing people to make up their own minds? That's absurd. Mission trips are helping people conditionally - we'll give you this or build you that if you convert to evangelical christianity. When you're poor and starving that's an easy decision to make. But then it goes to far - like this guy - think you know what's "best" for a group of savage non-Christians.

If you want to help people in developing nations, help them. But if you want to "save" them, just leave them alone - and let those qualified to help people unconditionally do it.
Hayseed

Geigertown, PA

#11 Mar 9, 2011
There are many people who travel to war torn countries or places that have experienced natural disasters for the purpose of padding their resume. They could care less about the suffering citizens. I've seen some of these people in action. They just don't care. Social networking appeal and the prospect of gaining "friends" and "followers" is their only driving force.
Really

Orrtanna, PA

#12 Mar 9, 2011
jean wrote:
this is the most ridiculous thing I've never heard of twenty five inmates in a cell and one bucket to use for toilet what if eight of them have to go at the same time and there's only one toilet bucket no wonder they get sick and dying that country is a jerk those so-called corrupt greedy selfish unqualified leaders should be ashamed of themselves corrupt societies
perhaps if US prisons were more like that it would cut down on the prison population.

Since: Nov 08

Cologne- Germany

#13 Mar 9, 2011
Toilets are aplenty in USA and blood to wash the toilets as well.
Are there any puny non Americans to clean the dirty Washington streets with their tears?

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#14 Mar 10, 2011
Ramafuchs wrote:
Toilets are aplenty in USA and blood to wash the toilets as well.
Are there any puny non Americans to clean the dirty Washington streets with their tears?
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat???

lol

Ramafuchs - be sure to flush before leaving...
pat toms

London, UK

#15 Mar 10, 2011
Hayseed wrote:
There are many people who travel to war torn countries or places that have experienced natural disasters for the purpose of padding their resume. They could care less about the suffering citizens. I've seen some of these people in action. They just don't care. Social networking appeal and the prospect of gaining "friends" and "followers" is their only driving force.
yes you are right and some of the mare christians
jean

Ronkonkoma, NY

#16 Mar 10, 2011
Really wrote:
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perhaps if US prisons were more like that it would cut down on the prison population.
I don't think the city could afford billions perhaps trillion of dollars in lawsuits claims damages by inmates in the us
Really

Shippensburg, PA

#17 Mar 10, 2011
Effington wrote:
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Dan actually summed it up quite well - and your comparisons to a firefighter watching a house burn down are invalid.
You can see, hear, feel, and observe a house fire. It's there, and it's irrefutable. A fireman is specifically trained and qualified to fight it.
Hell is an abstract, an idea, a philosophy and a myth. It cannot be seen, felt, heard, or experienced. It is fear of the unknown and a threat used to scare people to your beliefs. And it seems anyone who wants to qualifies themselves to fight it.
The greatest arrogance is truly believing that you know better. As Dan said - feel free to make your beliefs known, but allowing people to make up their own minds? That's absurd. Mission trips are helping people conditionally - we'll give you this or build you that if you convert to evangelical christianity. When you're poor and starving that's an easy decision to make. But then it goes to far - like this guy - think you know what's "best" for a group of savage non-Christians.
If you want to help people in developing nations, help them. But if you want to "save" them, just leave them alone - and let those qualified to help people unconditionally do it.
You are beyond help if you think hell is a myth. Get back to us on that one when you die. You are so wrong about so many things like mission trips are conditional. I guess you have never been on one but I have been on many and I can guarantee you none were ever conditional. If you think people on earth have never experienced hell talk to veterans who fought in any war. They will tell you that was only a taste of hell compared to the real thing. Experience your worst pain or suffering and multiply that by a billion times and one that never seases for eternity. Wow you are unbelievable!

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#18 Mar 10, 2011
Really wrote:
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You are beyond help if you think hell is a myth. Get back to us on that one when you die. You are so wrong about so many things like mission trips are conditional. I guess you have never been on one but I have been on many and I can guarantee you none were ever conditional. If you think people on earth have never experienced hell talk to veterans who fought in any war. They will tell you that was only a taste of hell compared to the real thing. Experience your worst pain or suffering and multiply that by a billion times and one that never seases for eternity. Wow you are unbelievable!
So is Hell a place, or an experience? That's a rhetorical question.

My real question is, do you really care that I'm going to hell, or do you only care that I don't believe in it?
Squeddle

United States

#19 Mar 10, 2011
Really wrote:
You are beyond help if you think hell is a myth. Get back to us on that one when you die.
Got any proof that it's real?

Since: Nov 08

Cologne- Germany

#20 Mar 11, 2011
Effington wrote:
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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat???
lol
Ramafuchs - be sure to flush before leaving...
Toilest are far and few
while the pastors are aplenty in our globe..

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