2 Die In Haiti Chopper Crash; Fla. IDs Found In Wreckage

Nov 18, 2008 | Posted by: forhaiti | Full story: www.local10.com

At least two people died in a helicopter crash between the Haitian coastal cities of St. Marc and Gonaives. . .

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Vincit

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Nov 19, 2008
 
The U.S. was probably conducting terrorist activities. Haiti would be better off not dealing with the U.S. although Barack Obama is black but so is Collin Powell and he has done incredible damages in Haiti.
HAYTIAN PRIDE

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Nov 19, 2008
 
What? Helicopter flying like a UFO in Haiti no one knows who's flying it. Who in Haiti could own helicopters in Haiti? These guys look like drug dealers to me than anything else.
one in mourning

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#3
Nov 20, 2008
 
The person that was flying that helicopter had been providing aid to Haiti...and the helicopter was american. The pilot leaves behind 4 daughters, the youngest of which is 2 years-old, and a large group of grieving family and friends that loved him and respected him. The aviation industry is at a great loss...he was an amazing pilot and the helicopter exploded in mid-air, which leads to believe that it was shot down by those on the ground...who probably received some of the aid.
Helicenter

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Nov 20, 2008
 
He was a friend that was helping the people of Haiti, he will be missed by all in Tamiami ap
the truth

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#5
Nov 20, 2008
 
The UN relief mission in the Caribbean nation says it had no connection with the craft or its passengers.
SimbiMakaya

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Nov 21, 2008
 
HAYTIAN PRIDE wrote:
What? Helicopter flying like a UFO in Haiti no one knows who's flying it. Who in Haiti could own helicopters in Haiti? These guys look like drug dealers to me than anything else.
Haytian Pride, not to sound too stereotypical, but that's the first thing that came to mind once the names of the deceased have been released. It's not uncommon...I have never heard of helicopters before, only of the small planes, but I must admit it is very plausible. Mostly when there was no knowledge of it flying over Haitian space...
SimbiMakaya

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Nov 21, 2008
 
one in mourning wrote:
The person that was flying that helicopter had been providing aid to Haiti...and the helicopter was american. The pilot leaves behind 4 daughters, the youngest of which is 2 years-old, and a large group of grieving family and friends that loved him and respected him. The aviation industry is at a great loss...he was an amazing pilot and the helicopter exploded in mid-air, which leads to believe that it was shot down by those on the ground...who probably received some of the aid.
If your story is true, my sincere sympathies go to the grieving families. However, I do not believe it's proper to blame my people for taking the helicopter down. The UN mission in Haiti and the American organizations on site helping the affected areas affirmed that it was not one of theirs. Moreover, investigations are still ongoing. Unless you have proofs/evidence to support your claims, it will be better to restrain from pointing any fingers...
the real truth

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Nov 21, 2008
 
The truth is you can not believe what you read. I know the pilot & his family personally. The pilot was extremely well qualified with over 10,000 hours of flight time. Many of his colleagues will tell you that he could have landed any helicopter any where! They claim two americans were found, but the 2nd person whose name they give Arles Perdomo is a doctor friend of the Pilot and he is in Miami alive and well. You can look up his information and call his clinic. So the "Police" does not have 100% accurage information. For every piece of information that we have received telling us one thing we have gotten another piece of information telling us the opposite. If you read the Haitian newspapers it tells you that he took off from Port Au Prince airport. It's ridiculous to think that he did not take off from Haitian soil. He was a great man! With one Passion, Flyin! Should we all be so fortunate as to ever feel 1/2 the passion that he did for flying for anything in our own lives!
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#9
Nov 22, 2008
 
I said that he HAD been providing aid to Haiti, not that he WAS at that moment. That helicopter was simply being taken out of Haiti per request of the American owner. If anyone looks up the records of helicopter accients in the world, they do not spotaneously combust in mid-air, something triggered it, and it was a human with something...and the person was on the ground. That's all I know. It's very saddening to know that he was killed, this was not an accident...and whomever did it, probably didn't even know him. I pray for peace in Haiti and for the soul of Gilberto Elias.
lala

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Nov 22, 2008
 
one in mourning wrote:
The person that was flying that helicopter had been providing aid to Haiti...and the helicopter was american. The pilot leaves behind 4 daughters, the youngest of which is 2 years-old, and a large group of grieving family and friends that loved him and respected him. The aviation industry is at a great loss...he was an amazing pilot and the helicopter exploded in mid-air, which leads to believe that it was shot down by those on the ground...who probably received some of the aid.
my condoleances to the family ,realy, im truly sorry but i dont think it was shot down, it wasen't at all it was just an accident.once again i'm sorry.
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Nov 23, 2008
 
lala wrote:
<quoted text>my condoleances to the family ,realy, im truly sorry but i dont think it was shot down, it wasen't at all it was just an accident.once again i'm sorry.
How can you say that it wasn't shot down? First off, unless you were there and you witnessed this you have NO idea. His own family isn't 100% sure on the facts. The plane blew up in midair! Helicopters do not just blow up on their own.
Douglas Baumwall

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Nov 30, 2008
 
I was Gilberto Elias close friend and business partner. We met in the early 1980s and eventually started a helicopter business near Tamiami Airport. He was a highly skilled and experienced pilot and teacher in both fixed and rotor wing aircraft. My first helicopter flight was with Gilberto in a Bell 47. At the time of his death he had flown a variety of helicopters [with both turbine and piston engines, but primarily in aircraft with low inertia rotor systems like the Robinson R22, R44, and the Schweitzer 300]. He had over 12,000 hours.

Gilberto was an expert at autorotations [the procedure for safely landing a helicopter without power from the engine], so I find it hard to believe his death was related to pilot error. I would be very, very interested to know more about your statement that the helicopter exploded in mid air, as this would suggest some kind of extreme equipment failure or foul play. Please reply with more detail regarding the source of your information?
one in mourning wrote:
The person that was flying that helicopter had been providing aid to Haiti...and the helicopter was american. The pilot leaves behind 4 daughters, the youngest of which is 2 years-old, and a large group of grieving family and friends that loved him and respected him. The aviation industry is at a great loss...he was an amazing pilot and the helicopter exploded in mid-air, which leads to believe that it was shot down by those on the ground...who probably received some of the aid.
Zabulon

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Dec 3, 2008
 
I managed to see 3 or 4 pictures of the crash site. There was no apparent evidence of any explosion of any kind. This appeared to be a crash. I even saw blood in the cockpit.

I did not save those pics unfortunately.
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Dec 3, 2008
 
Zabulon wrote:
I managed to see 3 or 4 pictures of the crash site. There was no apparent evidence of any explosion of any kind. This appeared to be a crash. I even saw blood in the cockpit.
I did not save those pics unfortunately.
Seriously, do you not realize that people died in this incident? Is it really necessary for you to go into detail of the blood you supposedly saw in the cockpit? What I find truly amazing is that you did not see photos of this incident because the only thing that is visible is the tail. I know this is a free country and freedom of expression is a very dear right that we have, but some people where just not meant to express theirs.
Zabulon

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Dec 3, 2008
 
Amazing wrote:
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Seriously, do you not realize that people died in this incident? Is it really necessary for you to go into detail of the blood you supposedly saw in the cockpit? What I find truly amazing is that you did not see photos of this incident because the only thing that is visible is the tail. I know this is a free country and freedom of expression is a very dear right that we have, but some people where just not meant to express theirs.
Rush to judgment.

Read what I wrote!

I SAID I DID SEE PICTURES OF THE ACCIDENT.

Those pictures were posted for a while on
www.alertehaiti.com
And for your information, I did see the pics, and there WAS blood in the cockpit. Now, if that bothers you, sorry I looked.

My saying that there was blood was only to counter the claim that there was a mid air explosion and that fire consumed the aircraft.

This aircraft crashed to the groung. PERIOD.
Amazing

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#16
Dec 3, 2008
 
The pictures you say you saw were not of this incident, those were pictures of another crash. The location and the debris field are completely different. You are ill informed, but it is not my job to inform you. I do think your comments are insensitive, and as a family member of one the people that died in this incident, I don't appreciate them.
Zabulon

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Dec 3, 2008
 
Amazing wrote:
The pictures you say you saw were not of this incident, those were pictures of another crash. The location and the debris field are completely different. You are ill informed, but it is not my job to inform you. I do think your comments are insensitive, and as a family member of one the people that died in this incident, I don't appreciate them.
Although I don't 'see' where you got the impression that I was insensitive about this, I will say sorry anyway, because only you feel what you are feeling.

I do have one question:
How do you know the pics were from another site?
HAYTIAN PRIDE

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#18
Dec 4, 2008
 
Zab, I think this person is partly right because I saw the crash on TNH. All one could see was the tail, everything else was scattered around.

But, one question Iíve been asking myself since someone posted that he or she knew one of the two guys, and they were Cubans from Miami. My question is ĎWHAT THE HELL CUBANS FROM MIAMI ARE DOING IN HAITI? Tell me what you want, were those people feeding the poor in Haiti? If Yes, okÖ, but were they doing extra curricular work by using Haiti as a base. Because, from my entire life Iíve never heard of CUBANS FROM MIAMI DOING ANYTHING FOR HAITI. Iíve heard CUBANS FROM CUBA DOING EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO HELP THEIR BROTHERS IN HAITI by sending doctors for free, by letting Haitian come to Cuba to study.
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#19
Dec 4, 2008
 
The causes of the crash according to the (WMD)weapon of mass destruction official investigation, strong electromagnetic fields of the UFO circulating over Haiti could have disabled the helicopter's instruments, causing the crash.
And the helicopter's bush recorder has not been found, supposedly removed by an alien right after the crash.
g dezayas

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Jun 17, 2012
 
Pilot was a friend of mine and he will be missed.

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