Croat, Serb organisations urge reconc...

Croat, Serb organisations urge reconciliation

There are 12470 comments on the SETimes news story from Jan 9, 2014, titled Croat, Serb organisations urge reconciliation. In it, SETimes news reports that:

Posting signs in both the Latin and Cyrillic alphabets is part of an effort at reconciliation between the countries in the region.

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Servoslaves

Niagara Falls, NY

#1 Jan 9, 2014
who cares about the servos butchers anyway
Dr Milan Sufflay

Elwood, Australia

#2 Jan 10, 2014
Good Initiative !!!!


The future is in hands of the young generation
MATKO JURIC

Ljubljana, Slovenia

#3 Jan 10, 2014
analbanian butchers

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CANADEZOS

London, Canada

#4 Jan 10, 2014
MATKO JURIC wrote:
analbanian butchers
www.kosovoliberationarmy.com
ALL YOU SLAVS==>>CROATS!SERBS!SL OVENES!MONTENEGRINS!BOSNIANS!B ULGARIANS!SLOVACS!POLACS!CZECH S!SLAVOSKOPIANS!==>>YOU ARE ALL SLAVS!SAME SLAVIC SH!T!==>>JUST A DIFFERENT NAME!===>>MACEDONIAN NOTHING!
MATKO JURIC

Leicester, UK

#5 Jan 10, 2014
CANADEZOS wrote:
<quoted text>ALL YOU SLAVS==>>CROATS!SERBS!SL OVENES!MONTENEGRINS!BOSNIANS!B ULGARIANS!SLOVACS!POLACS!CZECH S!SLAVOSKOPIANS!==>>YOU ARE ALL SLAVS!SAME SLAVIC SH!T!==>>JUST A DIFFERENT NAME!===>>MACEDONIAN NOTHING!
Oh Stfu you Gay-Reek loser

Jebo ti bog mater glupu
stipe

Melbourne, Australia

#6 Jan 11, 2014
Maybe if the Serbs where genuinely remorseful of their war crimes then I might be in the mood for reconciliation. Until then, I hate Serbs for doing what they did to my people and country.

“Hello”

Since: Jul 09

Belgrade

#7 Jan 11, 2014
Same goes for Croats.

“Make burek, not war”

Since: Oct 13

Costa del Coventry

#8 Jan 11, 2014
OR we could both swallow our pride and TRY to reconcile our differences, for the new generations sake at least.
MATKO JURIC

Leicester, UK

#9 Jan 11, 2014
Shomi wrote:
Same goes for Croats.
Nope shame suits you swerbs perfectly well

;)

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#10 Jan 11, 2014
Jooosh04 wrote:
OR we could both swallow our pride and TRY to reconcile our differences, for the new generations sake at least.
o.k.

The_Baron

“A man's character is his fate”

Since: Jun 10

Heraclitus

#11 Jan 12, 2014
Thats a good effort. Still, we are on a long way from reconciliation, because we are talking about Cyrillic anyway, because its just a script, as any other. Some will say, the Serbs of Croatia anyway do not use cyrillic letters in private, or why they don't just use latin letters because they live in Croatia?
In Serbia, for example in Subotica, the Croats who are minority there have their own signs written in Croatian language(beside Serbian and Hungarian language), even if Croatians of Serbia DO NOT SPEAK that language in private,but they speak Serbian !. The point is that the signs represent their presence in that municipality.
As long as the breaking cyrillic signs, or shouting "za dom spremni" is a mainstream, and not publicly condemned, this kind of efforts are just to small...

“Make burek, not war”

Since: Oct 13

Costa del Coventry

#12 Jan 12, 2014
Strahd wrote:
<quoted text>
o.k.
Sarcasm?
MATKO JURIC

Leicester, UK

#13 Jan 12, 2014
The_Baron wrote:
Thats a good effort. Still, we are on a long way from reconciliation, because we are talking about Cyrillic anyway, because its just a script, as any other. Some will say, the Serbs of Croatia anyway do not use cyrillic letters in private, or why they don't just use latin letters because they live in Croatia?
In Serbia, for example in Subotica, the Croats who are minority there have their own signs written in Croatian language(beside Serbian and Hungarian language), even if Croatians of Serbia DO NOT SPEAK that language in private,but they speak Serbian !. The point is that the signs represent their presence in that municipality.
As long as the breaking cyrillic signs, or shouting "za dom spremni" is a mainstream, and not publicly condemned, this kind of efforts are just to small...
Yeah but the Croats of Vojvodina didnt turn on their neighbours during the 1990's like the Serbs did. That's the main difference

My point is Serbs especially in Vukovar can make claims like "Vukovar je Srpski grad" and wonder why the signs go down ?

Serbs use the latin script anyway so why do they need cyrillic ?

The_Baron

“A man's character is his fate”

Since: Jun 10

Heraclitus

#14 Jan 12, 2014
MATKO JURIC wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah but the Croats of Vojvodina didnt turn on their neighbours during the 1990's like the Serbs did. That's the main difference
My point is Serbs especially in Vukovar can make claims like "Vukovar je Srpski grad" and wonder why the signs go down ?
Serbs use the latin script anyway so why do they need cyrillic ?
First line does not mean anything, we are talking about minority rights given by the law and constitution of both, Croatia and Serbia, regarding European laws on such a matter. It doesn't have anything to do with Jasenovac or with wars in nineties.

Second line, as i read it doesn't say Vukovar je grad Srbije, but Vukovar je srpski grad. As i see it it means Vukovar je i srpski jer i Srbi zive u njemu. I personally think that slogan is unnecessary anyway.

Third line i explained very well in previous post. Yes, maybe Serbs of Croatia do not use Cyrillic in private, but the scripts represents THEM living there, equally. Same goes for Croats of Serbia, they do not use Croatian language in private,(they speak Serbian and ekavian) but the signs in Croatian language represents them living there, equally.
pocahontas

Toronto, Canada

#15 Jan 12, 2014
I believe it's an error in judgement to discount the feelings of those who were most affected by what happened in Vukovar when they say it's too soon. When bilingual signs must be put up under the cover of darkness, police resources used to guard them and when a citizen is left lying in a hospital in a coma by the hand of one of those officers... These are the facts.

Just because someone has a right to something doesn't mean it's right at this moment in time.
Oliver Cromwell

Glasgow, UK

#16 Jan 12, 2014
stipe wrote:
Maybe if the Serbs where genuinely remorseful of their war crimes then I might be in the mood for reconciliation. Until then, I hate Serbs for doing what they did to my people and country.
What about the Ustashi filth?
MATKO JURIC

Leicester, UK

#17 Jan 12, 2014
Oliver Cromwell wrote:
<quoted text> What about the Ustashi filth?
What about Cetnik filth

The_Baron

“A man's character is his fate”

Since: Jun 10

Heraclitus

#18 Jan 12, 2014
pocahontas wrote:
Just because someone has a right to something doesn't mean it's right at this moment in time.
"Just because someone has a right"....I see that you are far a way from anything connected with law and any similar problematic. Someone's RIGHT is a basic thing of any democracy and its constitution. And right does mean NOW, and not for a 20 years. Otherwise it wouldn't be written so.

Anyway, the Cyrillic so called question is not even Serbian question. Serbs will live the same as they lived there. Its a question of Croatian democracy, and its a punch in the face to the Croatian state itself. Same goes for "Za dom spremni" of an "intellectual" football player. Does the Croatian state has the strength to secure its laws ?

Imagine situation that somebody has said 1970, well, lets wait, its not the moment now, the war is finished 1946, or just before 24 years.
MATKO JURIC

Ljubljana, Slovenia

#19 Jan 12, 2014
Oliver Cromwell wrote:
<quoted text> What about the Ustashi filth?
During WW2 even Germans were ashamed of the Ustashe war crimes
pocahontas

Toronto, Canada

#20 Jan 12, 2014
The_Baron wrote:
<quoted text>
"Just because someone has a right"....I see that you are far a way from anything connected with law and any similar problematic. Someone's RIGHT is a basic thing of any democracy and its constitution. And right does mean NOW, and not for a 20 years. Otherwise it wouldn't be written so.
Anyway, the Cyrillic so called question is not even Serbian question. Serbs will live the same as they lived there. Its a question of Croatian democracy, and its a punch in the face to the Croatian state itself. Same goes for "Za dom spremni" of an "intellectual" football player. Does the Croatian state has the strength to secure its laws ?
Imagine situation that somebody has said 1970, well, lets wait, its not the moment now, the war is finished 1946, or just before 24 years.
Being a citizen of a country is more than just having rights, it comes with
obligations and responsibilities to the other people you share it with. When you have
information that is pertinent to the whereabouts of the people who are still missing
from that area it's your OBLIGATION to come forth. As of this moment while I type this
people continue to keep SILENT while they CLAIM THEIR RIGHTS and then
wonder why there is a problem. This particular situation is far from being black and white and
it's naive to treat it as if it were, something that is crystal clear all the way to Canada.

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