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“Apply directly until it hurts”

Since: May 07

Rohnert Park, CA

#1 Jun 8, 2007
The reason Mexicans are so unwelcome in the United States is because they have too little to offer. Recent African legal immigrants have far more to contribute than Mexicans. A chart (link below) in the New York Times graphically illustrates the mediocrity of the human capital that recent Mexican immigrants (legal and whichever illegal ones the Census Bureau could find) bring.

While over 40% of recent immigrants from India have an advanced degree, only about 1% of Mexican immigrants do. Over 60% of Mexican immigrants have less than a high school diploma.

While about 20% of African immigrants work in "science, engineering, technology, or health," only about 1% of Mexicans do. Almost three times the proportion of Filipino immigrants claim to speak English "very well" as do Mexican immigrants.

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2007/06/05/...
USA

Omaha, NE

#2 Jun 11, 2007
Mexicans come here with absolutely no concerns that it's illegal. They donot give a damn. They come anyway. They drive down the roads here in the USA and donot know the way of the American driver consequently cause 1000's of wrecks. Right there in Houston,Tx one mexican rat pulled his van right smak straight in front of an American motorcyclist and killed the guy. Now a kid's dad will not be coming home. These fucking mexicans beans moved into the apt complex where I live. It's a nice expensive place..........where in the hell do these bastards get the money to move here? They raise hell all night long. Complaining to the mgt does no good. I'm gone..........will stay here one month w/o paying the fucking rent to show mgt I mean business about mexicans who're here illegally.
Texas Expatriate

Köln, Germany

#3 Jun 12, 2007
What goes around comes around. I'm sure many Mexicans said more or less the same thing as the slave drivers (your forefathers) invaded N. Mexico, known today as Texas and the Southwest. Since then there have been thousands of lynchings, rapes, land theft, hatred, oppression, etc., etc., etc.

The sins of your fathers are being visited upon you, deal with it.
USA wrote:
Mexicans come here with absolutely no concerns that it's illegal. They donot give a damn. They come anyway. They drive down the roads here in the USA and donot know the way of the American driver consequently cause 1000's of wrecks. Right there in Houston,Tx one mexican rat pulled his van right smak straight in front of an American motorcyclist and killed the guy. Now a kid's dad will not be coming home. These fucking mexicans beans moved into the apt complex where I live. It's a nice expensive place..........where in the hell do these bastards get the money to move here? They raise hell all night long. Complaining to the mgt does no good. I'm gone..........will stay here one month w/o paying the fucking rent to show mgt I mean business about mexicans who're here illegally.
Texas Expatriate

Köln, Germany

#4 Jun 12, 2007
Yes, and not surprisingly many of those immigrants from Africa and Asia are better educated and contribute more than the average white u.s. citizen. So what's to do? Send the mediocre whites back to Europe? They wouldn't have you, they were glad to get rid of your forefathers when they left.

Wake up and stop judging minorities, you're no better.
Toadal wrote:
The reason Mexicans are so unwelcome in the United States is because they have too little to offer. Recent African legal immigrants have far more to contribute than Mexicans. A chart (link below) in the New York Times graphically illustrates the mediocrity of the human capital that recent Mexican immigrants (legal and whichever illegal ones the Census Bureau could find) bring.
While over 40% of recent immigrants from India have an advanced degree, only about 1% of Mexican immigrants do. Over 60% of Mexican immigrants have less than a high school diploma.
While about 20% of African immigrants work in "science, engineering, technology, or health," only about 1% of Mexicans do. Almost three times the proportion of Filipino immigrants claim to speak English "very well" as do Mexican immigrants.
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2007/06/05/...

“Apply directly until it hurts”

Since: May 07

Rohnert Park, CA

#5 Jun 13, 2007
Texas Expatriate wrote:
Yes, and not surprisingly many of those immigrants from Africa and Asia are better educated and contribute more than the average white u.s. citizen. So what's to do? Send the mediocre whites back to Europe? They wouldn't have you, they were glad to get rid of your forefathers when they left.
Wake up and stop judging minorities, you're no better.<quoted text>
What a twit! Of course they contribute more, unfortunately you are too stupid to understand averages.
Texas Expatriate

Köln, Germany

#6 Jun 14, 2007
There you go judging again and resorting to insults when you've run out of arguments.

It corresponds with your first post, which says a lot about your character and horizon in life. Get a life.
Toadal wrote:
<quoted text>
What a twit! Of course they contribute more, unfortunately you are too stupid to understand averages.
Javier

Glasgow, UK

#7 Jul 12, 2007
Guys,it's payback time. America is a poor uncultural version of the Roman Empire, which eventually fell. Spanish speaking people are by far the fastest ethnic group in your country (viva la raza, by the way).
So my advice is this, you, as citizens are not to blame for the atrocities the American government committed and still committ in Central and South America. However, you must make an effort and speak reasonably good Spanish as the United States will become a bilingual country pretty soon.
Kisses from La Rioja (a gorgeous wine making area in northern Spain).
Conservationist

Grand Prairie, TX

#8 Jul 19, 2007
Why do we need ANY immigration again, at all? Just admit this is cultural war against European-Americans, and it'll be honest at least.
Texas Expatriate

Köln, Germany

#9 Jul 30, 2007
¡Saludos Javier!

I agree, it's only a matter of time...

By the way, "La Rioja" is a great place, I visited it a couple of years ago (Najera, Haro, Logroño, etc.), fantastic wines.
Javier wrote:
Guys,it's payback time. America is a poor uncultural version of the Roman Empire, which eventually fell. Spanish speaking people are by far the fastest ethnic group in your country (viva la raza, by the way).
So my advice is this, you, as citizens are not to blame for the atrocities the American government committed and still committ in Central and South America. However, you must make an effort and speak reasonably good Spanish as the United States will become a bilingual country pretty soon.
Kisses from La Rioja (a gorgeous wine making area in northern Spain).
american

Reno, NV

#11 Aug 3, 2007
Javier wrote:
Guys,it's payback time. America is a poor uncultural version of the Roman Empire, which eventually fell. Spanish speaking people are by far the fastest ethnic group in your country (viva la raza, by the way).
So my advice is this, you, as citizens are not to blame for the atrocities the American government committed and still committ in Central and South America. However, you must make an effort and speak reasonably good Spanish as the United States will
become a bilingual country pretty soon.
Kisses from La Rioja (a gorgeous wine making area in northern Spain).
Of course they are the fastest growing group,they breed like rats and are turning the united states into yet another third world country!

“Apply directly until it hurts”

Since: May 07

Rohnert Park, CA

#12 Aug 17, 2007
Something we should keep in mind is that one seventh of the US population is now Hispanic and unless a 100 billion barrel US oil discovery is made tomorrow, our quality of life is irreducibly linked to the quality of our population.

Unfortunately, the quality of the US population has deteriorated the last thirty years.

The NAEP 2005 assessment results for 8th grade Science indicate the following:
White students scored: 28% Below Basic, 35% Basic, 34% Proficient and 4% Advanced.

Hispanic Students scored: 67% Below Basic, 24% Basic, 9% Proficient and < 1% Advanced

The facts:
http://nationsreportcard.gov/science_2005/s01...

What the practical outcome of this racial disparity means at HS graduation is that the average Hispanic 18 year old achieves at an 8th grade level while the average white 18 year old achieves at a 12 grade level.

Frankly, any parents of 'Advanced' children (like myself) who do not investigate the possibility of emigration to secure their children's future welfare are avoiding their responsibility.
Shannon McGauley

Bedford, TX

#13 Aug 19, 2007
We said Toadal! When anyone comes to the United States they need to learn English and be schooled in English.

END OF STORY!!

This place is ours!

For the English Language Challenged

Este lugar es de nosotros

Shannon McGauley
President - Shannon (N5KOU) McGauley
www.txminutemen.org
John

Houston, TX

#14 Aug 21, 2007
Javier wrote:
Guys,it's payback time. America is a poor uncultural version of the Roman Empire, which eventually fell. Spanish speaking people are by far the fastest ethnic group in your country (viva la raza, by the way).
So my advice is this, you, as citizens are not to blame for the atrocities the American government committed and still committ in Central and South America. However, you must make an effort and speak reasonably good Spanish as the United States will become a bilingual country pretty soon.
Kisses from La Rioja (a gorgeous wine making area in northern Spain).
And how are you liking your muslim police state?

*

Since: Aug 07

Brooklyn, NY

#15 Aug 21, 2007
Toadal wrote:
The reason Mexicans are so unwelcome in the United States is because they have too little to offer. Recent African legal immigrants have far more to contribute than Mexicans. A chart (link below) in the New York Times graphically illustrates the mediocrity of the human capital that recent Mexican immigrants (legal and whichever illegal ones the Census Bureau could find) bring.
While over 40% of recent immigrants from India have an advanced degree, only about 1% of Mexican immigrants do. Over 60% of Mexican immigrants have less than a high school diploma.
While about 20% of African immigrants work in "science, engineering, technology, or health," only about 1% of Mexicans do. Almost three times the proportion of Filipino immigrants claim to speak English "very well" as do Mexican immigrants.
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2007/06/05/...
Mexicans work mostly in construction and service industries. For them not to graduate high school or college is irrelevent. Their education is on the job training.

On the job training often times is better than formal education such as college.

Jobs such as trucking, police, firefighters, construction don't necessarily need college.

For Mexicans kids to do poorly in school is not a cause for concern.

“President Texas Minutemen”

Since: Aug 07

Arlington, Texas

#16 Aug 30, 2007
Texas Expatriate wrote:
What goes around comes around. I'm sure many Mexicans said more or less the same thing as the slave drivers (your forefathers) invaded N. Mexico, known today as Texas and the Southwest. Since then there have been thousands of lynchings, rapes, land theft, hatred, oppression, etc., etc., etc.
The sins of your fathers are being visited upon you, deal with it.
<quoted text>
Do I understand this correctly. Someone from Germany is pointing out our civil rights violation.

Humm

President - Shannon (N5KOU) McGauley
www.txminutemen.org

“President Texas Minutemen”

Since: Aug 07

Arlington, Texas

#17 Aug 30, 2007
Texas Expatriate wrote:
Yes, and not surprisingly many of those immigrants from Africa and Asia are better educated and contribute more than the average white u.s. citizen. So what's to do? Send the mediocre whites back to Europe? They wouldn't have you, they were glad to get rid of your forefathers when they left.
Wake up and stop judging minorities, you're no better.
<quoted text>
It's the law. No illegal immigration! It's a concept you need to grasp!

President - Shannon (N5KOU) McGauley
www.txminutemen.org

“President Texas Minutemen”

Since: Aug 07

Arlington, Texas

#19 Sep 3, 2007
Cockroach Mexicans wrote:
<quoted text>
The guy is a bag of rocks. He's more of a comedy relief than anything else.
Thanks! I'm glad you splain to me.

President - Shannon (N5KOU) McGauley
www.txminutemen.org
Mexicans Suck

Citrus Heights, CA

#20 Sep 18, 2007
Playing their ranchero oom-pa-pa "music" and parking their trashy carcachas in front of my house. They act as if private property is community property. This used to be a nice neighborhood.
Outraged American

Atlanta, GA

#22 Sep 18, 2007
nytopics wrote:
<quoted text>
Mexicans work mostly in construction and service industries. For them not to graduate high school or college is irrelevent. Their education is on the job training.
On the job training often times is better than formal education such as college.
Jobs such as trucking, police, firefighters, construction don't necessarily need college.
For Mexicans kids to do poorly in school is not a cause for concern.
I rather have all the immigrants from Mexico than a single scum immigrant from India. All Indians do is cheat you. The move and forge papers so that dozens of "family" will move here.

“Apply directly until it hurts”

Since: May 07

Rohnert Park, CA

#25 Sep 21, 2007
nytopics wrote:
<quoted text>
For Mexicans kids to do poorly in school is not a cause for concern.
California engineers I work with in Silicon Valley often speak with mild contempt of West Virginia or Tennessee residents referring to them as backward. But how backward are Appalachian mountain people? How backward are people from Kentucky, for example?

Are California kids better scholars than hillbilly kids from Kentucky? Well, no, the evidence below indicates it's the rednecks from Kentucky who learn significantly more.

States NAEP 2005 Science Scores
http://nationsreportcard.gov/science_2005/s01...

California 8th Grade Score: 136 ... 4th Grade Score: 137
Kentucky 8th Grade Score: 153 ... 4th Grade Score: 158

BTW, California is tied for 49th in national science scores, even Alabama scores higher. "But", you might say, "49% of California school children are Hispanic with many non-English speakers". Yes, that's true, so let's compare kids taught a subject that language has little to do with, a subject that is a form of language itself, Mathematics.

States NAEP 2005 8th Grade Mathematics Scores
http://nationsreportcard.gov/reading_math_200...

California 8th Grade Score: 269
Kentucky 8th Grade Score: 274

California 8th graders are more ignorant than Kentucky 8th graders, in fact, California 4th graders are a dollar short in math too. And as you may have guessed, Kentucky's 4th and 8th graders outscore Californians in reading too. Perhaps we should call most Californians 'sunbillys' to reflect their accomplishments, or lack thereof.

And in 15 or 20 years when you hear 'That stupid from California', you will know why.

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