Push for Homeowners Association Full ...

Push for Homeowners Association Full Disclosure Law

There are 69 comments on the WHNT News 19 story from Apr 28, 2010, titled Push for Homeowners Association Full Disclosure Law. In it, WHNT News 19 reports that:

Alabama is one of a handful of states that doesn't have much consumer protection when it comes to buying a house.

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BamaGrandma

Riverside, CA

#22 May 1, 2010
We are new to the Huntsville area and are currently looking for a new home. Coming from CA with no HOA and dead cars, dirty properties, etc. this time around we would like a properly managed HOA. Can anyone offer suggestions as to neighborhoods where they're happy with their HOA?

“bless the USA”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#23 May 1, 2010
BamaGrandma wrote:
We are new to the Huntsville area and are currently looking for a new home. Coming from CA with no HOA and dead cars, dirty properties, etc. this time around we would like a properly managed HOA. Can anyone offer suggestions as to neighborhoods where they're happy with their HOA?
What price range?
Apollonius

Arlington, TX

#24 May 2, 2010
Never buy a house with a Homeowners Association involved. They are the worst kind of control freaks, and really irritating people.
friskyfred

Huntsville, AL

#25 May 2, 2010
Apollonius wrote:
Never buy a house with a Homeowners Association involved. They are the worst kind of control freaks, and really irritating people.
That is an unwarranted accusation lumping all HOAs into a single bunch. We have an excellent one where I live in Huntsville. Chances are there is some other motive for you to make such stupid statements.
Apollonius

Marble Falls, TX

#26 May 2, 2010
It's not a stupid statement. I just don't like those people. They should get a real job.

“bless the USA”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#27 May 2, 2010
Apollonius wrote:
It's not a stupid statement. I just don't like those people. They should get a real job.
Yes, it is stupid. Very. And we note your ISP keeps changing. Who cares whom you like or don't like? Mature HOAs are run by the residents. Many HOAs run very well. Having seen your posts, I am glad you don't want in a neighborhood with an HOA! Park your car on the lawn, put an old refrigerator on your porch, let your lawn go to weeds, have three barking dawgs, and party full blast every night. And, you need A GED and a real job.
Mom of 2

Center Point, LA

#28 May 2, 2010
Telling your realtor that you don't want a home with an HOA isn't as simple as it sounds. Most all of the new subdivisions have HOAs.

I will agree that the idea of an HOA is not appealing to us. Property ownership is not a community event. When my neighbors pay my mortgage, my taxes, my insurance and my repairs then maybe I'll let them tell me what color my garage door should be. And my grass? That's my business.

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#29 May 2, 2010
Kenhunt wrote:
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Yes, it is stupid. Very. And we note your ISP keeps changing. Who cares whom you like or don't like? Mature HOAs are run by the residents. Many HOAs run very well. Having seen your posts, I am glad you don't want in a neighborhood with an HOA! Park your car on the lawn, put an old refrigerator on your porch, let your lawn go to weeds, have three barking dawgs, and party full blast every night. And, you need A GED and a real job.
I think the poster was just stating an opinion, which is what these forums are for. It sure didn't take you long to throw the "Bubba" card either. So hostile over a differing opinion. Tisk, tisk. oh, and the isp will change if the poster uses sattelite internet.
You appear to be the very kind of person who would be in an HOA. You seem preoccupied with the doings of your neighbors, you want to tell them how to live and control the appearance of their property to meet your standards and punish them if they don't to your line. If your going to live close enough to change the channel on your neighbors TV then deal with it. There are city ordinances to adress most of your issues.
I bought in the county so I didn't have to deal with a nightmare of a neighbor who can make your life miserable. my property is well kept, mowed and there are no dead cars in the yard. My nieghbors down the street have a few but they are not my concern. In case you were wondering, I don't live in a trailer, I have a college education, a job and all of my teeth. I don't smoke Marlboro, dip snuff or drive a truck. I was however born and raised in the South and learned how to be a responsible neighbor. I don't need a HOA to tell me how to do it.
Mom of 2

Center Point, LA

#30 May 2, 2010
"I have a college education, a job and all of my teeth. I don't smoke Marlboro, dip snuff or drive a truck. I was however born and raised in the South and learned how to be a responsible neighbor. I don't need a HOA to tell me how to do it. "

Yes, I agree with that! Me too!

“bless the USA”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#31 May 2, 2010
Rocketlamb wrote:
<quoted text>
I think the poster was just stating an opinion, which is what these forums are for. It sure didn't take you long to throw the "Bubba" card either. So hostile over a differing opinion. Tisk, tisk. oh, and the isp will change if the poster uses sattelite internet.
You appear to be the very kind of person who would be in an HOA. You seem preoccupied with the doings of your neighbors, you want to tell them how to live and control the appearance of their property to meet your standards and punish them if they don't to your line. If your going to live close enough to change the channel on your neighbors TV then deal with it. There are city ordinances to adress most of your issues.
I bought in the county so I didn't have to deal with a nightmare of a neighbor who can make your life miserable. my property is well kept, mowed and there are no dead cars in the yard. My nieghbors down the street have a few but they are not my concern. In case you were wondering, I don't live in a trailer, I have a college education, a job and all of my teeth. I don't smoke Marlboro, dip snuff or drive a truck. I was however born and raised in the South and learned how to be a responsible neighbor. I don't need a HOA to tell me how to do it.
And you must be blind.

“bless the USA”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#32 May 2, 2010
I found Charlotte, TN:

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“bless the USA”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#33 May 2, 2010
Mom of 2 wrote:
"I have a college education, a job and all of my teeth. I don't smoke Marlboro, dip snuff or drive a truck. I was however born and raised in the South and learned how to be a responsible neighbor. I don't need a HOA to tell me how to do it. "
Yes, I agree with that! Me too!
Yeehaaaaa.

“bless the USA”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#34 May 2, 2010
Rocketlamb wrote:
<quoted text>
I think the poster was just stating an opinion, which is what these forums are for. It sure didn't take you long to throw the "Bubba" card either. So hostile over a differing opinion. Tisk, tisk. oh, and the isp will change if the poster uses sattelite internet.
You appear to be the very kind of person who would be in an HOA. You seem preoccupied with the doings of your neighbors, you want to tell them how to live and control the appearance of their property to meet your standards and punish them if they don't to your line. If your going to live close enough to change the channel on your neighbors TV then deal with it. There are city ordinances to adress most of your issues.
I bought in the county so I didn't have to deal with a nightmare of a neighbor who can make your life miserable. my property is well kept, mowed and there are no dead cars in the yard. My nieghbors down the street have a few but they are not my concern. In case you were wondering, I don't live in a trailer, I have a college education, a job and all of my teeth. I don't smoke Marlboro, dip snuff or drive a truck. I was however born and raised in the South and learned how to be a responsible neighbor. I don't need a HOA to tell me how to do it.
Come on, dude, there are only 1200 people in your town! I have seen plenty of folks raised in the South who've no clue at all about being a good neighbor. Stay where you are and be happy. Please.
Mom of 2

Center Point, LA

#35 May 2, 2010
Apparently Kenhunt is a HOA president.
Improve

Huntsville, AL

#36 May 2, 2010
I have to speak up on this issue of HOA's. I am a former HOA President who ran a HOA for 3 years. So this information comes from "the real deal" who's been on BOTH sides of the fence with a HOA. This is what I have to say on the issue because everyone seems to be seeing the FORREST instead of the TREES.

What is the HOA? The HOA is NOT "They or Them". It is YOU and YOUR neighbors. There's no secret organization behind the scenes pulling the strings. It's WHAT YOUR CULTURE OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS. If you have a majority of homeowners who believe trash cans put out on Monday and trash is picked up on Wednesday is WRONG then you get a rule that NO trash cans out until Wednesday morning is allowed.

Here's how I break it down. If your neighbor put an "outhouse" in their front yard and you live in a HOA. The HOA has rules that can force that owner to remove that "outhouse" or charge them for the removal. Which means it could be removed in a few days. If you don't live in a HOA and a neighbor puts out an "Outhouse", then you have to go to the City/County and request it is removed. Which could take months to years to have it taken out using your tax dollars.

An HOA stands for HOMEOWNER's ASSOCIATION. That means the OWNERS of the property CONTROL the property and GOVERN it. It's basically a corporation with the owner's as stockholders and their own government entity. The developer's use a HOA as a SALES TOOL to get their property sold to owner's who like the idea they can "control" their property values. Once the developer gets out of the HOA (Which a smart one does) it's up to the owners to decide what to do.

As for the rule of "disclosure", that is NOT up to the lawyers, Realtor, or Mortgage company to tell you your buying into a HOA. It is up to the potential owner to read over and understand the rules/budget of the association. It's a buyer's beware. To require a HOA has a "budget" available may be asking a bit much as many HOA's don't even get the concept of what a HOA nevermind how to form a yearly budget.

I am NOT anti-HOA nor Pro=HOA. I am for EDUCATING people on what a HOA truly is and STOP them from the "They and Them" syndrome people seem to have. It's YOUR participation level that drives a HOA. If you participate you get what you want out of it. You do NOT participate you get what someone ELSE wants out of it.

There is just soo much misinformation out there that I can't even begin to address ALL of the issues. Please get educated...
Mom of 2

Center Point, LA

#37 May 2, 2010
"It's YOUR participation level that drives a HOA. If you participate you get what you want out of it. You do NOT participate you get what someone ELSE wants out of it."

So... in other words, rub elbows with your neighbors and attend the meetings with a smile or else they'll harrass you?

Seems to me that people are reading this quite clearly.
Apollonius

Sweetwater, TN

#38 May 3, 2010
Kenhunt wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, it is stupid. Very. And we note your ISP keeps changing. Who cares whom you like or don't like? Mature HOAs are run by the residents. Many HOAs run very well. Having seen your posts, I am glad you don't want in a neighborhood with an HOA! Park your car on the lawn, put an old refrigerator on your porch, let your lawn go to weeds, have three barking dawgs, and party full blast every night. And, you need A GED and a real job.
Socialist!
Apollonius

Sweetwater, TN

#39 May 3, 2010
Mom of 2 wrote:
Apparently Kenhunt is a HOA president.
He sounds like one of those arrogant, a-hole control freaks.

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#40 May 3, 2010
Kenhunt wrote:
<quoted text>Come on, dude, there are only 1200 people in your town! I have seen plenty of folks raised in the South who've no clue at all about being a good neighbor. Stay where you are and be happy. Please.
Jeez you're slow. The ISP shown on my posts mean nothing, I live in Lincoln County and lived in Huntsville for many years. I'm very happy not to live in Huntsville. It used to be a really great place to live.
Even in the county we have people like you who move to the country and immediately start telling everyone how to live. "The cotton farming is aggravating my allergies, stop farming the land your family has been farming for generations. They need to ban tractors on the road, I'm in a hurry. Close down your chicken operation, I don't like the smell. Your new barn is blocking my view, tear it down."
Why is it such a hard thing to call the city and report junk cars and high grass? Do you prefer the anonimity of a HOA?

Since: Nov 09

Cullman, AL

#41 May 3, 2010
Kenhunt wrote:
I think it is unfair to generalize about the various HOAs in our area. If you don't want to be in a HOA neighborhood, try your luck in a neighborhood with no association and see what happens: bad lawns, bad dogs, bad roofs, litter, bad paint, junk on the properties, declining values, cars on lawns, dead trees, lack of commercial development, noise issues, and no foreknowledge of important information. A properly administered association can help protect property values and the quality of life in a neighborhood. There are surely bad associations but there are plenty of good ones. This legislation is important and necessary, but there is no reason to fear neighborhood associations in general. Just IMHO.
No offense, but I use to live in Madison County in a subdivision without a HOA and we had none of the items you mention and our property value did not decline, in fact our property values increase by $50k in 3 years. But I do agree that there are good ones and bad ones. But from my experience, by knowing numerous friends that were in a HOA, the HOA was nothing more than a rip-off. And as I mention before, we actually had some folks to try to start a HOA and it was shot down. If you want to live in a HOA, that is their decision, but I would take a very close look at it before you go into a contract for the home.

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