Walmart Workers Cry Fowl Over 'Black Friday' Hours

Nov 9, 2012 Full story: NewsOne 22

"Black Friday" will arrive earlier than usual at Walmart this year, with customers and workers barely able to digest their Thanksgiving meals before holiday shopping kicks off at 8 p.m. EDT.

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IThink

United States

#1 Nov 10, 2012
Walmart is trying to spread their sales volume out more evenly to prepare for the possibility of many of their associates participating in the "OUR Walmart" walk out strike by employees on Black Friday. You wouldn't catch me anywhere near walmart on Black Friday - why take the chance? I can go to Target and get the same stuff and skip the labor problems walmart has. I'll skip the zoo atmosphere - they aren't good when they have everyone working - I don't want to see it when their employees decide to be sick on purpose that day. I heard walmart will be open on Christmas Day next year as well - is that true?
David

Raleigh, NC

#2 Nov 11, 2012
Why go to Wal-Dumb on any day? The stores are nasty, the employees could care less about helping the customer, they are more concerned about their backroom score and attending the silly meetings and doing the Wal-Mart cheer. Just can't fix stupid.
Brandon

Newark, AR

#3 Nov 12, 2012
I happen to work at a very clean Walmart. I am the overnight floor crew lead and I love my job. It seems that the only people who complain at our store are the lazy ones who think their check should be handed to them. If you don't care about the quality of your work, don't apply at walmart. You could always go flip burgers at McDonalds. I hear they are always looking for new employees. :)
Obamessiah

United States

#4 Nov 12, 2012
Congrats on the clean store Brandon - that is the exception rather than the rule. The majority of walmart I have seen are chaotic pig pens. Complaining about not being able to have a normal decent Thanksgiving with your family becaus walmart wants to run their sale at a different time because they are afraid of an employee strike doesn't have anything to do with whether you are lazy or not. Complaining because you do not get scheduled enough hours to pay your bills because walmart has to cut hours big time the last two weeks of October to "make the quarter" on profit - no that doesn't have anything to do with being lazy. Complaining because you can't get a full tme position and don't have insurance because it is cheaper for walmart to have 70% of their employees work part time - that isn't about being lazy either. McDonalds does need people but walmart needs them about as bad - McDonalds and walmart both have similar employee turnover rates because each company only offers positions that people fill until they find a job that they can actually earn a living with.
Barbara

Rogers, AR

#5 Nov 15, 2012
99% of the Walmarts that I go in are very clean. Hospitals are open on Thanksgiving. I see no reason why a store can't be open and I would bet that working that day is optional. I would imagine that Walmart asked who would like to work and get holiday pay and some volunteered. Airlines work on Thanksgiving, too. Plus there are numerous other businesses that work on Thanksgiving. It seems like no big deal to me.
Brandon B

Newark, AR

#6 Nov 15, 2012
Obamessiah wrote:
Congrats on the clean store Brandon - that is the exception rather than the rule. The majority of walmart I have seen are chaotic pig pens. Complaining about not being able to have a normal decent Thanksgiving with your family becaus walmart wants to run their sale at a different time because they are afraid of an employee strike doesn't have anything to do with whether you are lazy or not. Complaining because you do not get scheduled enough hours to pay your bills because walmart has to cut hours big time the last two weeks of October to "make the quarter" on profit - no that doesn't have anything to do with being lazy. Complaining because you can't get a full tme position and don't have insurance because it is cheaper for walmart to have 70% of their employees work part time - that isn't about being lazy either. McDonalds does need people but walmart needs them about as bad - McDonalds and walmart both have similar employee turnover rates because each company only offers positions that people fill until they find a job that they can actually earn a living with.
So you don't actually work at a Wal-Mart? I'll admit that some of Wal-Marts business practices are questionable, but as far as the Black Friday sale being on Thanksgiving night.....WHO CARES! They can eat Thanksgiving meal for lunch that day, and most stores even supply a full Turkey dinner for their employees during their shift that day. The fact still remains that if people aren't happy with their job they can still go find something else. Retail is about taking care of the customer, not whining when corporate changes something.
Barry

Sioux Falls, SD

#7 Nov 16, 2012
Wal-Mart employees need unions, but consistently vote against their own best interest.
Brandon B

Newark, AR

#8 Nov 17, 2012
Unions? Like the workers from Hostess? Yea, that worked out real good for those union members. Unions are a sham.
arlene

Las Vegas, NV

#9 Nov 18, 2012
Why in the world would they make us work 6pm Tgiving nite to 3am,then back at 7am friday??? Are they nuts? That's my posted shifts!
HillbillyHypocri te

United States

#10 Nov 18, 2012
Barbara wrote:
99% of the Walmarts that I go in are very clean. Hospitals are open on Thanksgiving. I see no reason why a store can't be open and I would bet that working that day is optional. I would imagine that Walmart asked who would like to work and get holiday pay and some volunteered. Airlines work on Thanksgiving, too. Plus there are numerous other businesses that work on Thanksgiving. It seems like no big deal to me.
Well it seems like no big deal because YOU don't have to work it sugar.:)
3Decades

United States

#11 Nov 18, 2012
Brandon B wrote:
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So you don't actually work at a Wal-Mart? I'll admit that some of Wal-Marts business practices are questionable, but as far as the Black Friday sale being on Thanksgiving night.....WHO CARES! They can eat Thanksgiving meal for lunch that day, and most stores even supply a full Turkey dinner for their employees during their shift that day. The fact still remains that if people aren't happy with their job they can still go find something else. Retail is about taking care of the customer, not whining when corporate changes something.
You hang in there Brandon. Let me guess - about 24 years old at most - worked there 3 and a half years - again at most. Print what you just wrote and come back and read it again in 10 years. I wish you weren't wasting your most productive professional years where they absolutely DO NOT care about you in the least. Keep carrying that torch until it burns you - then your eyes will open. You already have recognized the business practices you have seen that you call questionable - you can't even get yourself to call it what it is but you already know it isn't right. Ten years from now do you think you will still call those practices you are willing to accept "questionable". You know what it is - in ten years you will be able to see it and maybe even say it. You are wasting your professional life. I know - "I'm Gonna" - you only have so many years for "I'm Gonna" - stop wasting them.
SamWouldBeProud

United States

#12 Nov 18, 2012
arlene wrote:
Why in the world would they make us work 6pm Tgiving nite to 3am,then back at 7am friday??? Are they nuts? That's my posted shifts!
They are trying to spread the business out on Black Friday as a countermeasure because of the looming walkout by employees on Black Friday. They feel the worst of the walkouts will be on Friday so they moved the sale to the night before so they can still belly up to the money trough. So it wrecks their employees lives - they could care less. It is about dollars - employees are simply tools to be used and then discarded. THAT's the walmart way!
David

Raleigh, NC

#13 Nov 18, 2012
Barbara wrote:
99% of the Walmarts that I go in are very clean. Hospitals are open on Thanksgiving. I see no reason why a store can't be open and I would bet that working that day is optional. I would imagine that Walmart asked who would like to work and get holiday pay and some volunteered. Airlines work on Thanksgiving, too. Plus there are numerous other businesses that work on Thanksgiving. It seems like no big deal to me.
Walmart asked who would like to work? That is almost as funny as 99% of WalMarts you go to are clean.
Schedules are made by a computer. No one has any input including the store manager. They can make very few changes and are strongly encouraged to make none at all. The computer algorithm ensures that there is no overtime, almost zero full time employees, and is based on some silly history of business done on certain days, time, weather, etc. And as a former shift manager, it doesn't work. Absolutely for sure, it takes nothing regarding employee satisfaction into consideration.
WalMart is a horrible place to work, but someone has to do it, just glad it is no longer me.:).
lucky in kentucky

Louisville, KY

#14 Nov 18, 2012
Brandon B wrote:
Unions? Like the workers from Hostess? Yea, that worked out real good for those union members. Unions are a sham.
Hostess was already in bankruptcy, walmart is richest retailer/family in USA. Not a fair comparison
Brandon B

Newark, AR

#15 Nov 19, 2012
lucky in kentucky wrote:
<quoted text> Hostess was already in bankruptcy, walmart is richest retailer/family in USA. Not a fair comparison
Doesn't mean it can still happen. There were 4 unions involved with the hostess standoff. Only three had the sense to take a step back. It will always be about the union's wallet.
Brandon B

Newark, AR

#16 Nov 19, 2012
3Decades wrote:
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You hang in there Brandon. Let me guess - about 24 years old at most - worked there 3 and a half years - again at most. Print what you just wrote and come back and read it again in 10 years. I wish you weren't wasting your most productive professional years where they absolutely DO NOT care about you in the least. Keep carrying that torch until it burns you - then your eyes will open. You already have recognized the business practices you have seen that you call questionable - you can't even get yourself to call it what it is but you already know it isn't right. Ten years from now do you think you will still call those practices you are willing to accept "questionable". You know what it is - in ten years you will be able to see it and maybe even say it. You are wasting your professional life. I know - "I'm Gonna" - you only have so many years for "I'm Gonna" - stop wasting them.
In 10 years I'll be making right at $15 an hour and not be worried about a whole lot. That's a lot of cheddar where I live, and I've already got my house paid off, 4 vehicles paid off, and less than $500 a month in bills each month. Wal-Mart has been good to me. If you want to make a living with our company 3rd shift is where it's at. Instant dollar an hour raise, and all the hours you can want. We are the heartbeat of every 24 hour store. I'm sorry you feel jaded, but like I said, Wal-Mart isn't for everyone.
HD police force

Tucson, AZ

#17 Nov 21, 2012
Barbara wrote:
Hospitals are open on Thanksgiving.
Hospitals are a NECESSITY, moron!
not happy with walmart

Grand Rapids, MI

#18 Nov 22, 2012
All I have to say is shame on Walmart for being open on Thanksgiveing. BLACK FRIDAY is black Friday not Thursday what a great way to show everyone you care.
Brandon B

Newark, AR

#19 Nov 22, 2012
not happy with walmart wrote:
All I have to say is shame on Walmart for being open on Thanksgiveing. BLACK FRIDAY is black Friday not Thursday what a great way to show everyone you care.
Not just Walmart. There are a lot of companies open on Thanksgiving. And we aren't the only ones trying to get a jump on it either.
Guest

Riverside, NJ

#20 Nov 22, 2012
They shouldn't force anyone to work Federal holidays. They should offer overtime and get volunteers. They can afford it. As far as health insurance, that's the biggest expense. Give younger people a chance to sign up for Medicaid and take it out as a payroll deduction just like they do in Canada and Europe

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