As You See It: Dec. 11, 2008

There are 20 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Dec 11, 2008, titled As You See It: Dec. 11, 2008. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

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Rocky

Santa Cruz, CA

#1 Dec 11, 2008
Local merchants need to shoo off the beligerent detritus lingering in front of their doors. I'm all for human rights, but a smelly hobo's aroma as I enter a food establishment will stifle any appetite I may have had

Since: May 08

Santa Cruz, CA

#2 Dec 11, 2008
So even the tolerant guy admits downtown is full of smelly, obnoxious, annoying bums, but he doesn't let it bother him, so neither should we. We should ignore all that and shop downtown anyway!

What a ringing endorsement of downtown.

Keep Santa Cruz Weird! And Smelly! And Annoying! And Dirty! And Dangerous! And Scary!
so tired of it

San Jose, CA

#3 Dec 11, 2008
No downtown shopping. Why put up with the crude that the city council loves. Downtown doesn't get a dime of my money as long as I fear for my life.

Any way I can get them all to move to Coonerty's shop? And keep them there?
Dan

Santa Cruz, CA

#7 Dec 11, 2008
Ditto--it's the merchants who need to speak out and ban together and walk the street and exert pressure on all the trouble makers--in a group accompanied by a police escort. Plain and simple they are going to lose their own shopping district very soon. There are many ways of exerting influence without police sweeps and arrests. People don't like to hang out where they feel uncomfortable. It goes both ways. Shoppers won't hang out where they feel uncomfortable, and troublemakers won't hang out where they feel uncomfortable. Forget relying on government to make things better.
Tom W

Santa Cruz, CA

#8 Dec 11, 2008
Haven't been downtown since 1985 when a Santa Cruz street person (aka bum) urinated in front of a crowd awaiting entrance to a movie. Want a pleasurable shopping experience? Try Santana Row, downtown Los Gatos or Carmel.
Westsider

Salinas, CA

#9 Dec 11, 2008
I think it's all a moot point, really. The downtown area is now geared to the student dollar. No business that does not, in some way, cater to the students will survive for very long. Since the students don't care about the homeless and drug dealing, don't look for any changes anytime soon.

Since: May 08

Daly City, CA

#10 Dec 11, 2008
I am afraid the Westsider is correct...

Since: May 08

Daly City, CA

#11 Dec 11, 2008
...after all, it's the only answer as to 'how the Saturn Cafe stays in business'. Yeeechh...
SoOkiE

Santa Cruz, CA

#12 Dec 11, 2008
NO to downtown shopping until the city cleans up it's mess once and for all. When is that going to happen, though? Hearing about "Skip" who goes by one name, being in charge is not very inspiring.
I miss our old downtown, with the Cooper House and Lily Wong's. Times change, businesses come and go but never in my wildest dreams did I think downtown would take such a turn.
I, too, will be shopping Los Gatos, Santana Row and Carmel this holiday season. And online.
Dan

Santa Cruz, CA

#13 Dec 11, 2008
It's chip not skip and if that's the best the Downtown Association can do then we can see where we aren't going for a future. What's wrong with these mercahnts?
SoOkiE

Santa Cruz, CA

#14 Dec 11, 2008
Oh, that's right! Chip, not Skip :)

“I will now use my Lirpa”

Since: Aug 08

Washington DC

#15 Dec 11, 2008
Xanthippe wrote:
So even the tolerant guy admits downtown is full of smelly, obnoxious, annoying bums, but he doesn't let it bother him, so neither should we. We should ignore all that and shop downtown anyway!
What a ringing endorsement of downtown.
Keep Santa Cruz Weird! And Smelly! And Annoying! And Dirty! And Dangerous! And Scary!
Why.

Harry Merkin

“I will now use my Lirpa”

Since: Aug 08

Washington DC

#16 Dec 11, 2008
SoOkiE wrote:
NO to downtown shopping until the city cleans up it's mess once and for all. When is that going to happen, though? Hearing about "Skip" who goes by one name, being in charge is not very inspiring.
I miss our old downtown, with the Cooper House and Lily Wong's. Times change, businesses come and go but never in my wildest dreams did I think downtown would take such a turn.
I, too, will be shopping Los Gatos, Santana Row and Carmel this holiday season. And online.
The only reason I go downtown now is to go to the movies. But I make sure I buy my movie tickets at COSTCO.

For shopping, I agree Los Gatos, Santana Row and anywhere but downtown.

Sorry Pacific Ave. Merchants, you keep your downtown weird, and broken down, and cash poor!

Harry Merkin
rita

Stockton, CA

#18 Dec 12, 2008
SoOkiE wrote:
NO to downtown shopping until the city cleans up it's mess once and for all. When is that going to happen, though? Hearing about "Skip" who goes by one name, being in charge is not very inspiring.
I miss our old downtown, with the Cooper House and Lily Wong's. Times change, businesses come and go but never in my wildest dreams did I think downtown would take such a turn.
I, too, will be shopping Los Gatos, Santana Row and Carmel this holiday season. And online.
santana row=urbn lite===no one is shopping anywhere, folks! you might think differently of the homeless by next year. you might be one of them. karma is a real wreness builder.
wow

Hayward, CA

#21 Dec 12, 2008
I use the santa cruz public library
so my kids can do there homework.I stay
with them,then we run our errens.There
learning well how fast you can stop danger
before it starts.Pot smoker right in front
of the library came around the corner
puffing away smoke into my childs face.
I some how bumped his baggy.OOPs sorry.
The pot smoker got angry,But did
not like what he saw on my belt.
I,m fed up.Hope it cost him
a months worth of good pot.
Josh exposes

United States

#22 Dec 12, 2008
his children to cigarette smoke and crazies, maybe he is an unfit parent

“If You Sleep, You Don't Eat. ”

Since: Jul 08

Santa Cruz

#23 Dec 12, 2008
It's really pathetic that you grown fucking people are too scared to go to downtown Santa Cruz. Are you all afraid of the dark and your own shadows too? Downtown Santa Cruz is nowhere near as dangerous as any major city and people seem to do fine living day to day in places like Boston and New York where the population of crazy homeless people is at least tenfold what Santa Cruz has ever seen.

Maybe you guys should all just consider moving to Los Gatos or somewhere boring like that. There, everyone is clean, rich, and white so you'll never have to be afraid again.
Downtown and Around

Aptos, CA

#24 Dec 12, 2008
Rocky wrote:
Local merchants need to shoo off the beligerent detritus lingering in front of their doors. I'm all for human rights, but a smelly hobo's aroma as I enter a food establishment will stifle any appetite I may have had
The transients and vagrants are a problem, absolutely. I love downtown Santa Cruz and I shop there, but I sure don't love the cigarette butts, spitting, and tagging that seems to be ubiquitous.

“I will now use my Lirpa”

Since: Aug 08

Washington DC

#25 Dec 12, 2008
LooseSCruz wrote:
It's really pathetic that you grown **** people are too scared to go to downtown Santa Cruz. Are you all afraid of the dark and your own shadows too? Downtown Santa Cruz is nowhere near as dangerous as any major city and people seem to do fine living day to day in places like Boston and New York where the population of is at least tenfold what Santa Cruz has ever seen.
Maybe you guys should all just consider moving to Los Gatos or somewhere boring like that. There, everyone is clean, rich, and white so you'll never have to be afraid again.
Afraid? Not even. Just disgusted. Most people like clean and white (or whatever).

How about sending the crazy homeless people to Boston or New York or even LA?

Harry Merkin
abc

Santa Cruz, CA

#26 Dec 12, 2008
most of the transients and bums i see downtown are white....hispanics usually at least try to work for their money....i've never seen a hispanic begging for money.....just white people....it's the white people i am afraid of...
LooseSCruz wrote:
It's really pathetic that you grown **** people are too scared to go to downtown Santa Cruz. Are you all afraid of the dark and your own shadows too? Downtown Santa Cruz is nowhere near as dangerous as any major city and people seem to do fine living day to day in places like Boston and New York where the population of crazy homeless people is at least tenfold what Santa Cruz has ever seen.
Maybe you guys should all just consider moving to Los Gatos or somewhere boring like that. There, everyone is clean, rich, and white so you'll never have to be afraid again.

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