God 'not terribly interested in religion', says bishop

Dec 26, 2013 Full story: Ekklesia Daily News 21

God is interested in life transformed, not the business of 'religion' for its own sake, the Primus of the Scottish Episcopal Church declared in his Christmas Eve sermon at St Ninian's Cathedral, Perth.

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Listen to the Word

Kingman, AZ

#1 Dec 27, 2013
Interesting points, but he still misses the gospel - as expected.

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#2 Dec 27, 2013
Listen to the Word wrote:
Interesting points, but he still misses the gospel - as expected.
Is not the Gospel the "Rising of the Sun/Son of Righteousness With Healing in His Wings?"

YES! IT IS!

You are such a Dufus, Mr. Does Not Listen!

May this coming New Year be a year of the unplugging of your ears and a year of the "scales" falling from your eyes, to the end that you can actually hear and see the Gospel of Christ!

“Carry On”

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#3 Dec 27, 2013
Listen to the Word wrote:
Interesting points, but he still misses the gospel - as expected.
You are another one, with no backbone. Lot of mouth, but no backbone. Please change your name to "Pointless, Spineless, Trolling Serpent Of Deceit". Come back when you can actually say something that you can afford to back up with something. I have zero respect for you. How could anybody? You should be ashamed.
Think Again

Dover, NC

#4 Dec 28, 2013
RevKen wrote:
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Is not the Gospel the "Rising of the Sun/Son of Righteousness With Healing in His Wings?"
YES! IT IS!
You are such a Dufus, Mr. Does Not Listen!
May this coming New Year be a year of the unplugging of your ears and a year of the "scales" falling from your eyes, to the end that you can actually hear and see the Gospel of Christ!
Ken, do you believe in the Virgin Birth. We have had this discussion before but I forgot where you stand.

I don't need a long diatribe, a simple yes or no will do.

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#5 Dec 28, 2013
Think Again wrote:
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Ken, do you believe in the Virgin Birth. We have had this discussion before but I forgot where you stand.
I don't need a long diatribe, a simple yes or no will do.
Because I say so would make no difference to you. So, I'll not say in response to your question. Besides, it would make no difference for you.

I will, however, openly admit to professing the Nicene Creed at every Communion service that I go to in The Episcopal Church.

With God, all things are possible.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#6 Jan 1, 2014
RevKen wrote:
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Because I say so would make no difference to you. So, I'll not say in response to your question. Besides, it would make no difference for you.
I will, however, openly admit to professing the Nicene Creed at every Communion service that I go to in The Episcopal Church ...
TEC Bishop John Spong recited the same Creed word for word, yet denied everything in that Creed with his own Theses.

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#7 Jan 1, 2014
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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TEC Bishop John Spong recited the same Creed word for word, yet denied everything in that Creed with his own Theses.
You can lead a horse to water.
But, you can't make him drink.

No man can be convinced of what he does not want to believe. A man who wants to believe needs no convincing.

Political perception is political reality.

The revelation of truth is a thermodynamic process.

See how you are?

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#8 Jan 2, 2014
RevKen wrote:
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You can lead a horse to water.
But, you can't make him drink.
No man can be convinced of what he does not want to believe ...
Then why appear in public in the garb of an Episcopal Bishop and recite creeds that you are not convinced of?

Why profess what you don't posses?

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#9 Jan 2, 2014
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Then why appear in public in the garb of an Episcopal Bishop and recite creeds that you are not convinced of?
Why profess what you don't posses?
The man is alive and well and he is still rgularly interacting and communicating with people. In fact, he doesn't live very far from you.

Why don't you get up off of your slovenly, deadened rump and go see him and ask him that question yourself, instead of your constant sniping?

He is an Episcopal Church Bishop (retired).

And why do you write that he recites creeds that I am "not convinced of?"

You don't know that. As a matter of fact, that assertion is a baited lie on your part.

It appears that your problem is not that I am not convinced. It is that YOU are not convinced. Obviously, from your remarks, one can see that just "saying" that one is convinced, including you yourself saying, is not sufficent to prove to anyone else that you actually ARE convinced, or for that matter, that what you are convinced of is actually the truth.

Go see him. He lives not far from you in Morris Plains, NJ. Find out where he is speaking locally or contact him by mail or over the internet. Ask him your questions. Come back and report on what he said to you.

Find out if what matters to him is also what matters to you.

Rev. Ken
Think Again

Dover, NC

#10 Jan 5, 2014
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Then why appear in public in the garb of an Episcopal Bishop and recite creeds that you are not convinced of?
Why profess what you don't posses?
It fills the offering plates. Well not much anymore but hey, Spong has his retirement.
Think Again

Dover, NC

#11 Jan 5, 2014
RevKen wrote:
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The man is alive and well and he is still rgularly interacting and communicating with people. In fact, he doesn't live very far from you.
Why don't you get up off of your slovenly, deadened rump and go see him and ask him that question yourself, instead of your constant sniping?
He is an Episcopal Church Bishop (retired).
And why do you write that he recites creeds that I am "not convinced of?"
You don't know that. As a matter of fact, that assertion is a baited lie on your part.
It appears that your problem is not that I am not convinced. It is that YOU are not convinced. Obviously, from your remarks, one can see that just "saying" that one is convinced, including you yourself saying, is not sufficent to prove to anyone else that you actually ARE convinced, or for that matter, that what you are convinced of is actually the truth.
Go see him. He lives not far from you in Morris Plains, NJ. Find out where he is speaking locally or contact him by mail or over the internet. Ask him your questions. Come back and report on what he said to you.
Find out if what matters to him is also what matters to you.
Rev. Ken
Why would Joe go to see Spong? Spong has proven himself, through his own writings and speeches, an apostate bishop.

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#12 Jan 5, 2014
Think Again wrote:
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It fills the offering plates. Well not much anymore but hey, Spong has his retirement.
Flat out, bald-faced lies on your part, Mr. TA.

Such lies, distortions and mischaracterizations are the work of "Satan."

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#13 Jan 5, 2014
RevKen wrote:
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The man is alive and well and he is still rgularly interacting and communicating with people. In fact, he doesn't live very far from you.
Why don't you get up off of your slovenly, deadened rump and go see him and ask him that question yourself, instead of your constant sniping?
He is an Episcopal Church Bishop (retired).
And why do you write that he recites creeds that I am "not convinced of?"
...
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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TEC Bishop John Spong recited the same Creed word for word, yet denied everything in that Creed with his own Theses.
Is your last name Spong?
And why would I ask him anything that Spong hasn't already made heretically clear in 11 of his 12 Theses?

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#14 Jan 5, 2014
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Is your last name Spong?
And why would I ask him anything that Spong hasn't already made heretically clear in 11 of his 12 Theses?
You glow like phosphorescent plankton in the moonlit wake of his carrier's passing.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#15 Jan 5, 2014
RevKen wrote:
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You glow like phosphorescent plankton in the moonlit wake of his carrier's passing.
Yeah, I saw Apollo 13 too, but well before man (almost) went to the moon, when my father and thousands of other GIs were shipped overseas, their transports trailed a plank to stir up the water's plankton so the ships could better follow one another in blackout conditions on account of Axis subs.

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#16 Jan 9, 2014
Both the wicked and the righteous come in all races, creeds, and colors. Right now, God doesn't care what your religion is All of the wicked will be cut off by fire in the second judgment by fire. God will "plead with all flesh" with fire and with his sword (word of hi mouth). The wicked will get ample warning. Only the righteous meek go to heaven and they will inherit the earth which will become Eden or literally heaven on earth.

“... truth will out.”

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Stratford, Connecticut.

#17 Jan 9, 2014
susanblange wrote:
... Only the righteous meek go to heaven and they will inherit the earth which will become Eden or literally heaven on earth.
Because there's no room in heaven for you and your fellow Jehovah's Witnesses?

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#18 Jan 9, 2014
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Because there's no room in heaven for you and your fellow Jehovah's Witnesses?
I'm not a Christian Joe, or a Jehovahs Witness (they don't call themselves Christian). I practice what I call The Truth and there is some truth in all religions. My holy book is strictly the OT or Tanakh.

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#19 Jan 9, 2014
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Is your last name Spong?
And why would I ask him anything that Spong hasn't already made heretically clear in 11 of his 12 Theses?
You are the one asking.

He lives near you. Go ask him.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#20 Jan 10, 2014
RevKen wrote:
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You are the one asking.
He lives near you. Go ask him.
Eleven of Spong's 12 Theses speak for themselves so why would I have to asks him anything?

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