Debate Continues Over Jesus Christa s...

Debate Continues Over Jesus Christa s Resurrection

There are 64 comments on the findingDulcinea story from Apr 11, 2009, titled Debate Continues Over Jesus Christa s Resurrection. In it, findingDulcinea reports that:

As Christians prepare to celebrate one of the religion's most important holidays, debate persists over evidence of Jesus Christ's resurrection.

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Lawrence

Richmond, VA

#21 Apr 11, 2009
As C. S. Lewis, Josh McDowell and others have pointed out, it makes no sense that Jesus' disciples, eye witnesses to His life, death and resurrection, would be willing to be tortured and martyred for something they knew to be a hoax. Key words - the KNEW, and they gave their lives to telling the story - and changing the world.
Haolekane

Charlottesville, VA

#22 Apr 11, 2009
Joseph wrote:
Though I despise religious skeptics, I'm not going to set up any personal attacks here, but instead am just going to make the point that religion is indeed based on faith, not always on fact. Also, perhaps you are all forgetting the fact that Jesus' death and resurrection were all prophesized/predicted THROUGHOUT the Bible, including those books written by men of Jewish faith in the Old Testament. And trust me, when Jesus comes back to Earth, those who refute him will be much worse off than those who have done wrong but then make amends for their sins. Good luck to those who deny Christ, I hope you will enjoy the eternal fire.
Ah, written by a gentle self assured Christian. I can feel the Christian love emanating from this person!!
Joseph

United States

#23 Apr 11, 2009
Thinkingman wrote:
Please expound: He rode into Jerusalem on Good Friday and was crucified. On the third day (Easter Sunday)He rose. The Conerstone of Christianity! From Friday to Saturday is one day and from Saturday to Sunday is 2 Days.
He died on Good Friday, before sundown, so that was considered a full day, because Jewish tradition says that the day ends at sundown. So Friday=Day one, Saturday(Sabbath for Jews)=Day two, Sunday morning=
Day Three
Stefan

Montréal, Canada

#24 Apr 11, 2009
Joseph wrote:
Though I despise religious skeptics, I'm not going to set up any personal attacks here,---sinpped for brevity---end snip
I hope you will enjoy the eternal fire.
quod erat demonstrandum
Tom

Oberlin, OH

#25 Apr 11, 2009
The bible is full of fables and stories, so we might as well consider H.C. Andersen's writing as divine revelation as well.

The Quran is the work of a demented schizophrenic megalomaniac who plagiarized the old and new testaments. How can a child molester be considered as divinely inspired? I wipe my shoes on the Quran and all its terrorist followers.
Joseph

United States

#26 Apr 11, 2009
All right fine, I admit I was out of line there. I was attempting to emphasize the negative effects of religious apathy and was too harsh about it. I retract the earlier "fire" comment, and wish to let you all know that God does love everyone, whether it be through belief in Christianity, Islam, or Judaism. However, he also loves those that have turned away from him because of science or personal belief, and he does indeed await their return if they so desire.
Dulcie

Warren, OH

#27 Apr 11, 2009
Hey, guess what? We'll all know for sure when we die!
David

Saint Cloud, FL

#28 Apr 11, 2009
There is no proof that the resurection
did occur. The belief that he did is based entirely on faith and not facts.
David

Saint Cloud, FL

#29 Apr 11, 2009
The fact that Jesus's deciples were willing to be totured and martyred proves nothing. Throughout the course of history people have been willing to undergo pain, suffering and even death on behalf of their beliefs. Today it's almost a daily event in the Muslim world. Does that prove that their belief is correct?
Jim

Dover, OH

#30 Apr 11, 2009
David wrote:
The fact that Jesus's deciples were willing to be totured and martyred proves nothing. Throughout the course of history people have been willing to undergo pain, suffering and even death on behalf of their beliefs. Today it's almost a daily event in the Muslim world. Does that prove that their belief is correct?
This presupposes there was a Jesus and disciples. As adults, we don't assume the existence of Santa Claus simply because we grew up with the story of Santa Claus.
Christa

Zanesville, OH

#31 Apr 11, 2009
Joseph wrote:
Good luck to those who deny Christ, I hope you will enjoy the eternal fire.
You know, people like you make me really glad that I'm not a Christian. I wouldn't like having to spend eternity with such heartless people.

I think Gandhi said it best: I like your Christ, but I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
Helmut

Munich, Germany

#32 Apr 11, 2009
Interesting the reference to the Shroud of Turin. The real message of the shroud is that the historical Jesus survived the crucifixion, as forensic scientists surprisingly came to the conclusion that the man under the shroud must have been still alive. Link e.g.: shroud.info
Joseph

United States

#33 Apr 11, 2009
Christa wrote:
<quoted text>
You know, people like you make me really glad that I'm not a Christian. I wouldn't like having to spend eternity with such heartless people.
I think Gandhi said it best: I like your Christ, but I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
In case you did not read my other post, I was out of line on that statement, and I apologize.
P Smith

Taipei, Taiwan

#34 Apr 11, 2009
Bewildered and Offended wrote:
What's the point of treating a point of faith as if it needs evidence like a fact? There's a difference you know. Faith requires belief, not proof.
Also...your timing is completely inappropriate. Do you debate Mohammed's child brides during Ramadan, or the blood libel on Passover? You don't have to believe or approve to show equal respect to all.
Your inference that I would make light of blood libel shows that you are more disgusting than you accuse me of being. But as for the rest, bull**** deserves to be called bull****.

Believe in religious filth/faith all you want, that's not the issue. The issue is you demanding special treatment and "respect" for unproven and fanciful claims. I reject your fiction in the same way you reject astrology or superstitions (unless, of course, you actually believe that garbage).
P Smith

Taipei, Taiwan

#35 Apr 11, 2009
Helmut wrote:
Interesting the reference to the Shroud of Turin.
The Fraud of Turin is a fourteenth century piece of artwork commissioned by a cardinal. There's provenance to back up that claim, and none to back up the lie of "2000 years old!"

The mythical jeebus did not exist. Deal with it.
Heron Oakbee

Pleasanton, CA

#36 Apr 11, 2009
Please note that many religious mythologies prior to Christianity spoke of gods that were born of virgins, that were the sons of Gods, and that died and were resurrected in 3 days--Mithra, Osiris, Adonis to name a few. Excellent essay at http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/paganrisi...

This is not to denigrate the Christian version; it is to put it the context of a more universal, paranormal phenomenon common to many spiritual traditions.

Happy Easter (pagan/celtic/Indo European "Oestre" = the spring fertility festival, same root as estrus , estrogen)
Thinkingman

Simpsonville, SC

#37 Apr 11, 2009
My heart was BLACK as sin,
until de sabyour came in.
His precious blood I know,
Has washed me WHITE as snow.

An' den one day I'm tole,
I'll walk de streets ub gold-
o wunderful wunderful day

O dem golden slippers!
Jus keep pickin' dat cottin and obey massa
an' youse gonna git heaben someday!
Sarah

New York, NY

#38 Apr 11, 2009
Interesting story - I saw a great documentary on the life of Jesus on the History Channel last week, as well, that raised questions about Jesus' true identity... worth checking out.

Since: Jun 08

New York

#39 Apr 11, 2009
According to the article, facts generally agreed upon by historical scholars include Jesus' birth around 4 B.C. in Nazareth; that he was Jewish; that as an adult he was baptized by John the Baptist and experienced a divine vision; that he was known as a healer, teacher and prophet; that he was executed by the Romans; and that his followers “experienced him after his death. It is clear that they had visions of Jesus as they had known him during his historical life.”

Since: Jun 08

New York

#40 Apr 11, 2009
What do you think of this assertion in the article ?

Craig compared the reliability of the evidence of Jesus’ resurrection favorably to the attestation of the death of Caesar Augustus in AD 7814 and the fall of Jerusalem in AD 70, as well as other commonly accepted events in ancient history.

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