Bergeron productive as Bruins beat Habs

Patrice Bergeron wasn't eased back into things in his return to the Boston Bruins.

[Red Wings25]

I'm glad to see that Bergeron is healthy and ready to go for Boston. He's a talented forward and I hope he has a successful career.

[habs21]

yeah after his injury im sure he will still be the same his a talentful quebecer

[habs21]

lol Bs got beat by isle

[Dos Equis]

habs21 wrote:

lol Bs got beat by isle

Yup, they got beat in OT.

Does this mean the Isles AND the B's are better than the Habs?

[habs21]

not really if you mean the young team of rookie (about the half) who loose 8-3 and dunt forget our top plqyer wasnt playin. Isle is 1 of the worst team in conference

[Dos Equis]

C'mon, get over the rookies excuse.
You know the B's had just as many young guys playing too.
The Islanders are being coached by Gordon, who, guess what? Was those same rookies coach last year when he worked in the Bruins AHL franchise.
Think he might have known the players?

[habs21]

dude i agree dat Bs are foking better than last year, this being said, offseason games DID NOT represent the reality, when the season will start we will be able to do dat but until then, who knows... there are no game that we can put a value on since both team are normal and dat vets play for real (dunt think they do their best hen). That game will be played 15th oct. Cant wait to see Bs being crash by habs lol ;)

[Dos Equis]

No,Offseason games are only really useful for evaluating prospects and working on the skating legs, but you gotta admit, it's hard not to get pumped to finally have pro-hockey going on again.
Both teams have unfinished business and are looking to improve from last year.

What's a Montreal fans take on the Toronto situation? I've heard that the Leafs/Habs rivalry is bigger than the Bruins/Habs rivalry. What's your take on how they'll do this year?

[pat]

toronto are loosers no1 care about them not.. they are done for a couple of years now and evry1 know dat. Habs will be the leader of division, sorry to say it but the bruin arent dat strong lol dunt think they will finish more then 4.

[GoOilers]

If I can wade in. Leafs/Habs is the biggest rivalry in the NHL, I'd suggest. When they were the only two Canadian clubs in the NHL it was neighbour versus neighbour in the rest of Canada, including the west, when they met. Of course, broadcast wise there was only the CBC radio and CBC TV that spanned the entire country so everyone had a take/side. The history of pro hockey in Canada comes down to those two teams.

[Dos Equis]

GoOilers wrote:

If I can wade in. Leafs/Habs is the biggest rivalry in the NHL, I'd suggest. When they were the only two Canadian clubs in the NHL it was neighbour versus neighbour in the rest of Canada, including the west, when they met. Of course, broadcast wise there was only the CBC radio and CBC TV that spanned the entire country so everyone had a take/side. The history of pro hockey in Canada comes down to those two teams.

What has always amazed me though is the philosophical diffences between the two clubs.
Being a Bruins fan, I think I understand the Montreal mind-set more: A ton of history, some of the greatest players ever, a bunch of cups, epic snobery and arrogance, media that drink blood, players run out of town on rails, the language thing, all that paints the picture and as long as you understand that, you know their reactions to any situation. Even now, the NHL seemed to pattern its ideal from the traditional Montreal mold.
But Toronto has always fascinated me: Possibly the most rabid and pathological fans in any sport,
a history weighted towards the earlier years of the game, the most(pro)hockey crazed city in the world, constantly hung up on history that has long faded, yet they still pay through the nose to follow a team that has (in many recent years) not returned much in the way of product run by what may be one of the least competent management structures in pro sports. They can't lose money when they try (and in the past few years, it looks like they tried.)
Then there's my beloved B's: Fickle fans, think hockey history began and ended with Orr, aren't too crazy about the whole puck/stick thing as much as the heavy check and punch thing, able to rationalized falling short of the target, more willing to win the battles than the war. To a Boston fan, hockey is a rough and tumble blue collar experience. A cathardic release.
That's my (three of the) Original Six perception.

[Dos Equis]

pat wrote:

toronto are loosers no1 care about them not.. they are done for a couple of years now and evry1 know dat. Habs will be the leader of division, sorry to say it but the bruin arent dat strong lol dunt think they will finish more then 4.

Habs are banged up already and the season hasn't even started yet (read the article in the Gazette). They may be too bruised up to dive all the time when the season actually starts.

Go Bruins. We may not always win, but we know how to stand up on skates, and beat up Habs.

[pat]

GoOilers wrote:

If I can wade in. Leafs/Habs is the biggest rivalry in the NHL, I'd suggest. When they were the only two Canadian clubs in the NHL it was neighbour versus neighbour in the rest of Canada, including the west, when they met. Of course, broadcast wise there was only the CBC radio and CBC TV that spanned the entire country so everyone had a take/side. The history of pro hockey in Canada comes down to those two teams.

NHL come from a league that was established in montreal, canadien is the very first pro hockey team to be created and that open the NHL

[GoOilers]

pat wrote:

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NHL come from a league that was established in montreal, canadien is the very first pro hockey team to be created and that open the NHL

Yes. I understand the history. I was merely chiming in on the question of which is the bigger rivalry Habs/Leafs or Habs/Bruins.

[habs21]

i would say habs/bruins only cuz it is against them we play the most in season and playoffs and because they are a bigger revalty then with toronto on our days. Even if we won the majority of the games between those teams, it still a big game when they play against in season.

[Dos Equis]

habs21 wrote:

i would say habs/bruins only cuz it is against them we play the most in season and playoffs and because they are a bigger revalty then with toronto on our days. Even if we won the majority of the games between those teams, it still a big game when they play against in season.

That's actually good to hear (or read), we've always viewed Montreal as our cheif nemesis' and don't like competing with Toronto for most despised. It looks like Toronto has that whole Ottawa hate thing going on anyway.

[GoOilers]

Dos Equis wrote:

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What has always amazed me though is the philosophical diffences between the two clubs.
Being a Bruins fan, I think I understand the Montreal mind-set more: A ton of history, some of the greatest players ever, a bunch of cups, epic snobery and arrogance, media that drink blood, players run out of town on rails, the language thing, all that paints the picture and as long as you understand that, you know their reactions to any situation. Even now, the NHL seemed to pattern its ideal from the traditional Montreal mold.
But Toronto has always fascinated me: Possibly the most rabid and pathological fans in any sport,
a history weighted towards the earlier years of the game, the most(pro)hockey crazed city in the world, constantly hung up on history that has long faded, yet they still pay through the nose to follow a team that has (in many recent years) not returned much in the way of product run by what may be one of the least competent management structures in pro sports. They can't lose money when they try (and in the past few years, it looks like they tried.)
Then there's my beloved B's: Fickle fans, think hockey history began and ended with Orr, aren't too crazy about the whole puck/stick thing as much as the heavy check and punch thing, able to rationalized falling short of the target, more willing to win the battles than the war. To a Boston fan, hockey is a rough and tumble blue collar experience. A cathardic release.
That's my (three of the) Original Six perception.

Good assessment of all three hockey cultures.

[habs21]

Dos Equis wrote:

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What has always amazed me though is the philosophical diffences between the two clubs.
Being a Bruins fan, I think I understand the Montreal mind-set more: A ton of history, some of the greatest players ever, a bunch of cups, epic snobery and arrogance, media that drink blood, players run out of town on rails, the language thing, all that paints the picture and as long as you understand that, you know their reactions to any situation. Even now, the NHL seemed to pattern its ideal from the traditional Montreal mold.
But Toronto has always fascinated me: Possibly the most rabid and pathological fans in any sport,
a history weighted towards the earlier years of the game, the most(pro)hockey crazed city in the world, constantly hung up on history that has long faded, yet they still pay through the nose to follow a team that has (in many recent years) not returned much in the way of product run by what may be one of the least competent management structures in pro sports. They can't lose money when they try (and in the past few years, it looks like they tried.)
Then there's my beloved B's: Fickle fans, think hockey history began and ended with Orr, aren't too crazy about the whole puck/stick thing as much as the heavy check and punch thing, able to rationalized falling short of the target, more willing to win the battles than the war. To a Boston fan, hockey is a rough and tumble blue collar experience. A cathardic release.
That's my (three of the) Original Six perception.

Anyone who can support the pression and enjoy being a star in media and have fans will tell you that montreal is the best town. If he is not shy and he has hearth to play the game all the fans will back him up in his dead sequence and we have the best organization to help him improve his style. For montreal fans, we like too see a players givin his 150% like richard did or even gainey. It takes that mind to not surrender to win stanley cups and if the whole team play like that this year, we will be a tough team to win against beleve me.

[habs21]

Dos Equis wrote:

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That's actually good to hear (or read), we've always viewed Montreal as our cheif nemesis' and don't like competing with Toronto for most despised. It looks like Toronto has that whole Ottawa hate thing going on anyway.

Yeah but honestly i prefer mtl/bos rivalty also cuz theres always action going on in playoff between this 2 teams. The biggest rivalty between toronto and montreal is about the fans when one or the other goes to see his team in the other town. On the ice you never see the same determination than with boston.

[Dos Equis]

habs21 wrote:

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Yeah but honestly i prefer mtl/bos rivalty also cuz theres always action going on in playoff between this 2 teams. The biggest rivalty between toronto and montreal is about the fans when one or the other goes to see his team in the other town. On the ice you never see the same determination than with boston.

That's what I always thought, but the medias in general always seemed to see it otherwise.
We (Boston) know who our preffered enemy is. Montreal, with New York a distant second (just like Montreal/Toronto, it's an east coast city thing).