Blackhawks beat Flames in overtime

Blackhawks beat Flames in overtime

There are 38 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Dec 19, 2008, titled Blackhawks beat Flames in overtime. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

It's only appropriate the red-hot Blackhawks continued their trek through Western Canada with a match-up against the Calgary Flames .

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Tell the Truth

Mechanicsburg, PA

#21 Dec 20, 2008
"I think I can speak for the other 8 Hawk fans when I say that in total point the Hawks are 6th in the league and there are only 3 teams with a better winning percentage."

- BFM

You're right. But as a serious hockey fan - is there any other kind?- I am sure you would agree that total points alone do not determine the true ranking of a team.

And even with the recent tear that the Blackhawks is on - which it cannot and will not sustain - it has ONLY the 6th highest point total. Add to that the conference and the division the Blackhawks are in compared to teams with lesser point totals like the Flyers, Devils, Penguins, Canadiens and Ducks and you should more readily agree with my point.

Chico 17 does, admittedly, make a good point about the added value of players and coaches from throughout the world.

But any sport that has so many teams is bound to suffer in terms of talent per team. Even if you were likely to find a gold nugget prospect, there are hundreds of other players who are out-right thugs who significantly drop the level of competition. So while the worldwide expansion does offer the possibility of finding better players, thugs sometimes cripple those nuggets before they get to the NHL.

One final point: In the 41 seasons since the expansion of '67, 23 non-"Original Six" teams have won the Stanley Cup. The Blackhawks had some excellent teams during teams during that stretch. But that's why I say their only about the 11th best team. Some of the better teams aren't even hitting their stride yet.

Time will prove me right or wrong.

Remember my POST NAME and I will return in May to admit I was wrong if I am.
mannytress

Rhinelander, WI

#22 Dec 20, 2008
Tell the Truth wrote:
The Blackhawks are the 11th best team in hockey in a league that is WAAAAAYYYYY over sized for the interest and talent available. They still have a ways to go and it is by no means certain that they will get there - given injuries, talent drop offs and or trades or free agency.
I know this is COLD water on the 9 Blackhawks fans out there; but it is better to be realistic than to be duped into a frenzy.
I'm predicting now that the Blackhawks will get eliminated in the second round of of the playoffs. Again, given the size of the league, that's hardly a major accomplishment.
Aw, poor baby. What'sa matter......
mommy didn't make your breakfast this morning?
paul

Fergus, Canada

#23 Dec 20, 2008
Toews set up for the winner was a masterpiece and Keith following up on the play and getting in position to "git er done" shows how in tune the guys are with each other. Dare I suggest Keith in the running for the Norris trophy and Torews for MVP.
Murphy

Westchester, IL

#24 Dec 20, 2008
paul wrote:
Toews set up for the winner was a masterpiece and Keith following up on the play and getting in position to "git er done" shows how in tune the guys are with each other. Dare I suggest Keith in the running for the Norris trophy and Torews for MVP.
YES!!!
Rod from Tennessee

AOL

#25 Dec 20, 2008
The Hawks are certainly on a nice roll, and playing as well as they have been on the road has to be making a believer out of everyone. I think it's about time Trib, for the Hawks to be the lead-in story, and relegate Paxson's follies to the bottom of the page.
cdg3210

Springfield, MA

#26 Dec 20, 2008
Tell The Truth wrote: "But any sport that has so many teams is bound to suffer in terms of talent per team. Even if you were likely to find a gold nugget prospect, there are hundreds of other players who are out-right thugs who significantly drop the level of competition. So while the worldwide expansion does offer the possibility of finding better players, thugs sometimes cripple those nuggets before they get to the NHL." First off, what sport doesn't have too many teams? It's obvious that this poster does not now too much about the NHL. I suspect he/she's a fan of the NBA.(Talk about thugs) Anyway, at this point in the season you have to take winning percentage into account. If the season ended today the Hawks would have the 3rd best record in the division and be seeded 4th for the playoffs. It's a great improvement over last year but I know that they won't sustain the pace that they are on. I do agree with "Tell the Truth" about bowing out in the 2nd round.
Murphy

Westchester, IL

#27 Dec 20, 2008
Rod from Tennessee wrote:
The Hawks are certainly on a nice roll, and playing as well as they have been on the road has to be making a believer out of everyone. I think it's about time Trib, for the Hawks to be the lead-in story, and relegate Paxson's follies to the bottom of the page.
Sun-Times ,also. I have doubts, though, their demographics would allow this to happen.
cdg3210

Springfield, MA

#28 Dec 20, 2008
It would be nice to see proper coverage for the Hawks in both papers. I don't think that will ever happen with the Times. They've always have been a Bulls paper including the pre-Jordan days.
Tony

Clermont, FL

#29 Dec 20, 2008
You want coverage? Go to the Daily Herald...
Tony

Clermont, FL

#30 Dec 20, 2008
paul wrote:
Toews set up for the winner was a masterpiece and Keith following up on the play and getting in position to "git er done" shows how in tune the guys are with each other. Dare I suggest Keith in the running for the Norris trophy and Torews for MVP.
Keith has been playing out of his mind and i'd agree that he has Norris Trophy in his future that is whenever Lidstrom retires...How about Kaner's lazer shot on his goal? Talk about a sniper...

Since: Oct 08

La Crosse, WI

#31 Dec 20, 2008
Tony: Kane's shot was incredible. The Kipper had no chance. From a goalie standpoint, you simply put it behind you, take a drink of water, realize the talent of the shooter and move on. He is a true sniper and the little guy is getting better!

Since: Oct 08

La Crosse, WI

#32 Dec 20, 2008
More kids playing equals more players as they get older. If a kid has the God given "gift" and love for the game he will not drop out because of those around him. I know of no leagues where "thugs" are allowed to halt the development of players. That's silly. And as in every other sport in this day and age, no talented players "fall through the cracks" and are not scouted. AAA youth coaches, Junior and College scouts are everywhere. Almost no talent is ever missed. Hockey players continue to get better. If you were really a "serious" hockey person you would know that. It's that simple.

Since: Oct 08

La Crosse, WI

#33 Dec 20, 2008
Not to mention, NHL scouts who are everywhere, believe me. I am in Minnesota and Wisconsin around hockey every day from October to March and see the talent developing AND as a HS coach, talk to see the scouts quite a bit. No one gets missed and no one quits because of "thugs". It's the same everywhere. End of my soapbox....
BFM

Wood Dale, IL

#34 Dec 20, 2008
Tell the Truth wrote:
"I think I can speak for the other 8 Hawk fans when I say that in total point the Hawks are 6th in the league and there are only 3 teams with a better winning percentage."
- BFM
You're right. But as a serious hockey fan - is there any other kind?- I am sure you would agree that total points alone do not determine the true ranking of a team.
And even with the recent tear that the Blackhawks is on - which it cannot and will not sustain - it has ONLY the 6th highest point total. Add to that the conference and the division the Blackhawks are in compared to teams with lesser point totals like the Flyers, Devils, Penguins, Canadiens and Ducks and you should more readily agree with my point.
Sorry man, I'm having a really bad morning. My only real point was that they currently sit higher in the standings than you stated and when teams have not played the same number of games winning percentage has to be considered. Will they maintain the pace they're on? I suspect not, but I don't know for sure and neither does anybody else. I do think they will play well the rest of the year. Also, I can't really disagree with your playoff prediction. If they do get eliminated in the 2nd round, while there would be disappointment at the time, I'm not sure that over time most Hawk fans wouldn't view it as a large step in the right direction. I don't think anyone could dispute the fact that the Hawks are alot better than they've been recently and seem to be growing in leaps and bounds.
Hardliner

Saint Paul, MN

#35 Dec 20, 2008
Road wins in any sport are a great way to gauge how good a team is. I like what I am seeing from this group.It's been almost 50 years since the cup was hoisted in Chicago, it's time!
Section 319

AOL

#36 Dec 20, 2008
Tell The Truth, here's what you're missing: It's been a long, long time since the Blackhawks were even part of the discussion. The Blackhawks are back. The fans are back. And we're all excited to see what happens. We've got hope founded in reality. That's all we really need right now. Come playoff time, we'll see what happens. But right now the glass in way more than half full.

You obviously ain't no Blackhawks fan. In fact, you're not even an NHL fan. That's ok, we don't need you and your dour, the-glass-is-half-full, sourpuss self. When the time comes that the Hawks hoist the Cup, you'll tell us all how they won't win it again the following year. Now get back to your video games.

Since: Oct 08

La Crosse, WI

#37 Dec 20, 2008
You got it 319 and Hardliner! Chico
Tony

Clermont, FL

#38 Dec 20, 2008
Look at the Bruins. You think they're that good? Will they maintain the pace they're on? I think if you go up and down the league outside of Detriot and SanJose it's a dogfight throughout the NHL to make the playoffs especially in the West where 8th and 15th are only 7pt diff. In the East you can eliminate 3 or 4 teams. The talent is not dilluted. The gap IMO is closing every year. Before the year I had the Hawks at 7th right now we're looking at 3 or 4...Oh yeah no doubt a long way to go. It's not even January yet and if i'm going to sit here right now and think that a 2nd round loss in the playoffs would be a dissapointment would be crazy because in my mind before this year started I just wanted to see this team get into the playoffs and that any rounds they could win to advance would be gravy. Currently though this team has raised the bar and fans have visions of greatness this year. Why not? We deserve to finally get our hopes up with the excitement this team has created on the ice..

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