Blackhawk Martin Havlat's injury-free...

Blackhawk Martin Havlat's injury-free season has team thinking ...

There are 36 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Feb 12, 2009, titled Blackhawk Martin Havlat's injury-free season has team thinking .... In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Martin Havlat 's ability to stay injury-free this season has been a big factor in the Blackhawks ' success.

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dahawks

Springfield, IL

#21 Feb 13, 2009
while I agree that marty is having a great season, I think it would be a bad move to lock him up if it means possibly losing kane, toews, or keith. if the money is there then we should keep him but we cannot afford to lose kane, toews, and especially keith, who is the most underrated player in the league.
old school hockey

Chicago, IL

#22 Feb 13, 2009
tim howe wrote:
Hey, I know where you can get $7.4 million: dump 51. He'd be worth keeping at $2M, but he's easily $5m/year overpaid considering his reculctance to take/give a hit, turnovers in his own zone and sloppy passing.
Amen
Tony

Saint Petersburg, FL

#23 Feb 13, 2009
Did I say he wasn't performing?
DCH6859

Waynesburg, OH

#24 Feb 13, 2009
What am I missing? Havlat has 17 goals to date and will probably end up with 25. He's making 6 MILLION. Didn't Detroit just sign one of the best players in the league for that kind of money? Havlat is at best an average player.If he gets anything close to that Tallon needs to be replaced,
WrecksAlwaysSux

King Of Prussia, PA

#25 Feb 13, 2009
Stop falling in love with players on your own roster! Barker, Havlat, Khabibulin, et al. should all be traded. They're not going to win the Cup this year or the next. Trade them for a faceoff man, a shootout man, a PK forward, a defensive defenseman with decent wheels (Walker==slow) or another puck-moving defenseman who can actually play defense.
WEST COAST TOM

Locust Grove, VA

#26 Feb 14, 2009
Bears fan in NY wrote:
I would trade him in a second. He's an injury waiting to happen.
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Absolutely correct !!! Marty should be congratulated for a real decent season, but the Hawks paid $18 mill. for 3 years, not 1. One could easily say that the big reason he has remained healthy this season, is that he is playing on his 1st competitive Blackhawk team in the contract that he signed. And of course, he is up for a new pact beginning next season, so there is a real incentive there as well. Bottom line is that since he was and still is very injury prone, if he gets hurt again, it more than likely WILL be a serious absenteeism from the line-up with perhaps another early season ending surgery. Now the flip side says that if you can get him for $1 mill. then you gotta bring him back, but anything more than that should be spent awhole more wiser on another option who is younger, more durable, has proven to stay healthy, and is just as effective. And as far as the salary cap goes, I still like resigning the Nikster for another season, then trading him in the summer and also trading Huet in the summer as well. Those 3 would add $18 mill. to the petty cash fund. Talk about rollin' the dice; do so with the 2 goalies we got at Rockford instead of wasting their time to the point where they are no longer NHL calibre. And if you don't like that idea, then make the decision to rotate them both as backups with decent NHL playing time, and go out and spend some of the savings on the Minnesota Wild UFA goalie, Nikky Backstrom.
MR KENNEDY

Rensselaer, IN

#27 Feb 15, 2009
I was wrong on Marty and Nick at start of year now the big question is what to do with each of them.I never thought Marty was tough enough to play in the NHL time will tell.Nick has back issues that could be trouble and will always slow him at some time.

Since: Dec 08

Fort Saskatchewan, Canada

#28 Feb 15, 2009
South Sider in Florida wrote:
Chris, while I love reading your columns on the Hawks, this was one I didn't want to read. Please don't even MENTION Havlat's injury prone previous seasons ever again.
What are you trying to do? Jinx the guy? ;-)
Exactly. Watch for a tweak of the groin coming soon.
Hawks Fan

Chicago, IL

#29 Feb 15, 2009
Havlat has been the team's best forward overall, by far. Quite a feat, when you consider that he's been careful with a shoulder that's been at risk and has needed time to heal.

WHy do I say the best, when Kane has more points and Sharp has more goals? Well, Kane only has only 3 more points than Havlat, but Kane is a +/- 0 and certainly doesn't create plays for other players the way that Havlat does. And, Sharpie has scored more goals, but he doesn't come close in assists, is a + 2 and he certainly isn't able to create plays like Havlat. Havlat is a + 14 and in addition to excelling in all categories - points, goals and assists - he creates the kind of plays that make it possible for other guys to score.

That's another important quality he brings to the team. Havlat is never selfish with the puck. Unlike some of the other guys - not to name names, but Toews and Byfuglien really need to accept that they can't handle the puck as well as they think they can. In fact, sometimes I wish Havlat would drive the puck in himself more often, but he's always looking for the player with the best scoring chance. He makes the other guys play better and has helped them to improve as the season progresses.

Havlat's experience as an elite NHL and world class foward is crucial on a team as young as the Hawks. You can see the young guys learn a lot from him and we certainly wouldn't be winning so many of these games without him. And, Unfortunately, there aren't really any players who can consistently think and act as fast as with as much skill as Havlat.

If we can pay less experienced and less consistent guys $4 million/year, then certainly Havlat is worth the top dollar he commands as one of the NHL's best. And yes, I can already hear the naysayers complain that he was injured a lot during the first two seasons here, but is there anyone you'd want more when we make it to the playoffs?? Especially when we're only contenders because of Havlat's contributions?

Any player can be injured and Havlat has fared better than many other guys this year, so give the pessimism a rest. Besides, if Havlat has a career ending mishap, then there's no hit to our cap. Let's enjoy the great year, look to the future and leave the past behind.
Josh

Chicago, IL

#30 Feb 15, 2009
WEST COAST TOM wrote:
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Absolutely correct !!! Marty should be congratulated for a real decent season, but the Hawks paid $18 mill. for 3 years, not 1. One could easily say that the big reason he has remained healthy this season, is that he is playing on his 1st competitive Blackhawk team in the contract that he signed. And of course, he is up for a new pact beginning next season, so there is a real incentive there as well. Bottom line is that since he was and still is very injury prone, if he gets hurt again, it more than likely WILL be a serious absenteeism from the line-up with perhaps another early season ending surgery. Now the flip side says that if you can get him for $1 mill. then you gotta bring him back, but anything more than that should be spent awhole more wiser on another option who is younger, more durable, has proven to stay healthy, and is just as effective. And as far as the salary cap goes, I still like resigning the Nikster for another season, then trading him in the summer and also trading Huet in the summer as well. Those 3 would add $18 mill. to the petty cash fund. Talk about rollin' the dice; do so with the 2 goalies we got at Rockford instead of wasting their time to the point where they are no longer NHL calibre. And if you don't like that idea, then make the decision to rotate them both as backups with decent NHL playing time, and go out and spend some of the savings on the Minnesota Wild UFA goalie, Nikky Backstrom.
You've gotta be kidding...$1 million for one of the most consistent and highest scoring players on the team?? Havlat is certainly worth more than the $4 million they're paying Sharp. Besides, I think Havlat's proving that he's not injury prone since he hasn't missed a game all season. The shoulder was his only problem that was any worse than other players and made people call him injury prone, and it seems like, after 3 surgeries it's finally been fixed properly. Even the team admitted that all last year he was playing with a shoulder than needed another surgery to fix a problem that wasn't fixed right the first time. So give it a rest. The guy's not injury prone. He had one injury that needed to be fixed right, and it was.
Brad

Chicago, IL

#31 Feb 15, 2009
Jack Tupp wrote:
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Exactly. Watch for a tweak of the groin coming soon.
You're giving the guy grief for groin pulls? It's one of the most common injuries in hockey. Not really a problem unique to Havlat, who, by the way, hasn't missed a single game while other guys already have. The reason we notice it so much when Havlat is injured is because he adds so much to the game. Can't blame him for that or bust him harder for dealing with the same problems that everyone else has.

Since: Dec 08

Fort Saskatchewan, Canada

#32 Feb 15, 2009
Brad wrote:
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You're giving the guy grief for groin pulls? It's one of the most common injuries in hockey. Not really a problem unique to Havlat, who, by the way, hasn't missed a single game while other guys already have. The reason we notice it so much when Havlat is injured is because he adds so much to the game. Can't blame him for that or bust him harder for dealing with the same problems that everyone else has.
Brad, I was commenting on the jinx factor. Like talking about a shutout in the late stages of a game. Groins, ankles or shoulders all players are susceptible. Why bring up his recent luck of being injury-free?
Brad

Chicago, IL

#33 Feb 15, 2009
Jack Tupp wrote:
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Brad, I was commenting on the jinx factor. Like talking about a shutout in the late stages of a game. Groins, ankles or shoulders all players are susceptible. Why bring up his recent luck of being injury-free?
Hey Jack, sorry if that sounded personal, didn't mean it to. I thought you're comment to "watch for the tweak of a groin coming soon" was itself asking for bad luck.

I'm not watching for pulled groins or any other injuries that are so common in the game, especially to the faster and taller players. If it happens to any of the guys, well, they'll miss a few games and get over it. So will I.

Instead of watching for injuries, let's watch for more standout performances on the ice on our way to the playoffs!
RamRod

Saint Paul, MN

#34 Feb 16, 2009
BFM wrote:
<quoted text> All I know is that if Bowman (Scotty) has to give his stamp of approval to anything that Tallon concocts I'll feel alot better about whatever the Hawks do the next few weeks. With all due respect to RamRod and his "don't mess with the karma" view, I don't think they can and I don't think they will let the trading deadline pass without making a deal (or two).
Damn BFM, won't let me go unchecked! ;-)

The key word in my paragraph on Karma was "rash".
You know that rash moves aren't in their repetoir.

"TOK, D!"
WEST COAST TOM

United States

#35 Feb 16, 2009
Josh wrote:
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You've gotta be kidding...$1 million for one of the most consistent and highest scoring players on the team?? Havlat is certainly worth more than the $4 million they're paying Sharp. Besides, I think Havlat's proving that he's not injury prone since he hasn't missed a game all season. The shoulder was his only problem that was any worse than other players and made people call him injury prone, and it seems like, after 3 surgeries it's finally been fixed properly. Even the team admitted that all last year he was playing with a shoulder than needed another surgery to fix a problem that wasn't fixed right the first time. So give it a rest. The guy's not injury prone. He had one injury that needed to be fixed right, and it was.
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Yeah, okay, I guess I was being a bit of a cheap bastard there, suggesting a salary of $1 mill. But anywhere remotely close to his current salary is out of the question, given the fact that the Hawks have that damn cap issue. Like most others, Marty is probably gonna want perhaps even an increase given his performance of this season, and my main point is that those type of #'s could be better spent in a different direction. We are not gonna know who might be available in the summer until we get closer to the trade deadline, but I would hope there could at least be a window of opportunity in the direction of a Jason Spezza, Jeff Carter, Ilka Kovalchuk, Jay Bouwmeester, etc. They've got youth on their side and no injuries that have plagued them in the past. My main contention regarding Havlat is that I certainly would not want to bring him back, and then all of a sudden, your fault, my fault, nobody's fault,(if I can coin John Wayne) he's down again, and then yes, we shoulda known better. I particularly like the Jay B. clique, as it seems as though the Hawks have a thing with the teams in the WHL. Having seen many of those games in the past, those kids have a tough nose and are nothing short of quality. The OHL has been known for its decent scorers, and thus the thought of getting Nathan Horton, to perhaps reinvigorate his career. He was a horse with the Oshawa Generals and thus far he's been wasting his time with those nutty Sunshine Mall Panthers.
the truth is out there

Richton Park, IL

#36 Feb 17, 2009
yeah its so true, i just feel that soupie is not a true blackhawk. the fans arent taking to his offensive minded defense. It kills me when i see him make a 6milliion dollar turnover in the hawks zone. I think he is good when he is good but i just die when he turns it over.
tim howe wrote:
Hey, I know where you can get $7.4 million: dump 51. He'd be worth keeping at $2M, but he's easily $5m/year overpaid considering his reculctance to take/give a hit, turnovers in his own zone and sloppy passing.

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