Rangers win as Islanders leave Dubie ...

Rangers win as Islanders leave Dubie exposed

There are 32 comments on the Newsday story from Mar 7, 2008, titled Rangers win as Islanders leave Dubie exposed. In it, Newsday reports that:

At the end of a day of controversy revolving around Ted Nolan's selection of backup Wade Dubielewicz over franchise goaltender Rick DiPietro in a critical game against the Rangers last night at Nassau Coliseum ...

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Guerin

Harrow, Canada

#1 Mar 7, 2008
Guerin its time for him to step up and light up the net again,
He needs to fight to create some room, and find a way to get that shot off.....Anyway its time for him to earn his keep, 37points, is not going to do it, all that power play time is a waste....
joe c

Piscataway, NJ

#2 Mar 7, 2008
Its all about the power play... check it out at

Billyjaffe.blogspot.com
Rob

Pittsburgh, PA

#3 Mar 7, 2008
I'd like to see Dubie get one more start about 7 or 8 games from now. Even if DP plays well down the stretch and they earn a playoff berth he'll be too worn out and they'll make another early exit. Maybe a start or 2 from Dubie would be enough. The guy has shown he can play well enough to be trusted. Why not use him on occasion?
Chad

Mechanicsburg, PA

#4 Mar 7, 2008
Exactly, where has Guerin been the past 20 games? I know he is a leader off the ice, but it's time to be one ON the ice. And 37 points? Holy crap, even YASHIN had 50 points last year!
Guerin wrote:
Guerin its time for him to step up and light up the net again,
He needs to fight to create some room, and find a way to get that shot off.....Anyway its time for him to earn his keep, 37points, is not going to do it, all that power play time is a waste....
Nolans DUMB

United States

#5 Mar 7, 2008
I was a a Jr. A goalie. Only goalies can see mistakes like this for how costly they actually are. Coaches, writers and announcers do not understand goalies. ANY goalie reading this will know I am correct. Nolans decision was not gutsy. It was STUPID!
a) It does not matter whether you feel that Dubie was left out to make near impossible stops anyway, so the outcome would be the same whether Smith, Resch, DP, etc. The mentality of the entire team needs to be that "we can win this game". When you start Dubie instead of DP, you immediately have the rest of the players feeling that they have the weaker goalie in net, and their backs are against the wall. That does NOT make them play better because they are in front of a goalie that needs more help. It makes them play worse, because as a team they have less confidence that they can win!
b) DP is a good goaltender 90 percent of the time. Dubie is good goalie 65 percent of the time. As a coach, you play the odds. The odds will always be that DP is the stronger choice. It does not matter that Dubie is hot at that moment. He would need to be volcano hot to convince me to make a move as stupid as Nolans. He has 1 good game at MSG. And I would not say it was volcano hot. It was simply exciting that he didn't blow the game for them. That is something we get from DP nearly every night anyway. But from Dubie it is unusual, so we were "excited" about it!
I am in the minority for saying this, and I have said it all season. Nolan is one of the serious WEAKNESSES of this team. He regularly benched what was the highest goal scorer on his PP (Bergeron). Doing so on a team with no offense, is a ridiculous move! He had a bias towards Chris Simon for the silly reason that they are both Native Americans, and go back a long time together. His bias was delusional to the point of complaining that Simons suspension was too harsh, when Simon actually should have been doing 3-5 in the penitentiary! And by the teams own admission they traded away their top PP scorer, partly as an appeasement to Nolan because they were also trading away his buddy Simon. A team that needs offense, needs offense. Therefore it was less important that Bergeron was a defensive liability, than it was that he can score on the PP. Likewise Berard, who Nolan also benched for much of the season. I could go on. Nolan makes a ton of obviously bad decisions as a coach.
And for the first time I have a bit of a problem with Garth Snow. It is inexcusable that Snow didn't see as far back as Nov/Dec that he needs to swing a deal or 2 for some offense!
Overall bad decision (as usual) last night by Nolan. The only one who got it right was Stan Fischler in his comments after the first period. And why? BECAUSE HE WAS A GOALIE and can see things as they actually are!
putaforkinem

Los Angeles, CA

#6 Mar 7, 2008
Yeah I know Guerin, and half this team suck this year but am I the only one who thinks this bum Johnson is horrible? He plays hunched over like his cousin from Notre Dame and he cannot even take a freaking slapshot..Hey Garth Brooks how bout bringin up Drew Fata, not only a better D-an but he will even drop the mitts since nobody else on the team will. Where are the Eric's (thats Cairns and Goddard). Quetsion - Next year should I even order center ice with this group of beer leaguers...
TLITLKITIS

Hyde Park, NY

#7 Mar 7, 2008
DP is overrated...
Chad

Mechanicsburg, PA

#8 Mar 7, 2008
I know what you mean but the D is playing alright. The team needs goal scorers and unless they come from Bridgeport, they are not going to get anyone in their prime until a new area is built. The Islanders play hard but so all the other teams that are still near a playoff spot this time of year. It's not enough. You need to score.
putaforkinem wrote:
Yeah I know Guerin, and half this team suck this year but am I the only one who thinks this bum Johnson is horrible? He plays hunched over like his cousin from Notre Dame and he cannot even take a freaking slapshot..Hey Garth Brooks how bout bringin up Drew Fata, not only a better D-an but he will even drop the mitts since nobody else on the team will. Where are the Eric's (thats Cairns and Goddard). Quetsion - Next year should I even order center ice with this group of beer leaguers...
coldforce

East Meadow, NY

#9 Mar 7, 2008
Guerin should retire (Silly, Witt too)
Bring back Yash!
Chad

Mechanicsburg, PA

#10 Mar 7, 2008
Lets not get crazy but you can't have Guerin be your main scoring threat. He can't do that anymore.
coldforce wrote:
Guerin should retire (Silly, Witt too)
Bring back Yash!
MIKE

United States

#11 Mar 7, 2008
Nolans DUMB wrote:
I was a a Jr. A goalie. Only goalies can see mistakes like this for how costly they actually are. Coaches, writers and announcers do not understand goalies. ANY goalie reading this will know I am correct. Nolans decision was not gutsy. It was STUPID!
a) It does not matter whether you feel that Dubie was left out to make near impossible stops anyway, so the outcome would be the same whether Smith, Resch, DP, etc. The mentality of the entire team needs to be that "we can win this game". When you start Dubie instead of DP, you immediately have the rest of the players feeling that they have the weaker goalie in net, and their backs are against the wall. That does NOT make them play better because they are in front of a goalie that needs more help. It makes them play worse, because as a team they have less confidence that they can win!
b) DP is a good goaltender 90 percent of the time. Dubie is good goalie 65 percent of the time. As a coach, you play the odds. The odds will always be that DP is the stronger choice. It does not matter that Dubie is hot at that moment. He would need to be volcano hot to convince me to make a move as stupid as Nolans. He has 1 good game at MSG. And I would not say it was volcano hot. It was simply exciting that he didn't blow the game for them. That is something we get from DP nearly every night anyway. But from Dubie it is unusual, so we were "excited" about it!
I am in the minority for saying this, and I have said it all season. Nolan is one of the serious WEAKNESSES of this team. He regularly benched what was the highest goal scorer on his PP (Bergeron). Doing so on a team with no offense, is a ridiculous move! He had a bias towards Chris Simon for the silly reason that they are both Native Americans, and go back a long time together. His bias was delusional to the point of complaining that Simons suspension was too harsh, when Simon actually should have been doing 3-5 in the penitentiary! And by the teams own admission they traded away their top PP scorer, partly as an appeasement to Nolan because they were also trading away his buddy Simon. A team that needs offense, needs offense. Therefore it was less important that Bergeron was a defensive liability, than it was that he can score on the PP. Likewise Berard, who Nolan also benched for much of the season. I could go on. Nolan makes a ton of obviously bad decisions as a coach.
And for the first time I have a bit of a problem with Garth Snow. It is inexcusable that Snow didn't see as far back as Nov/Dec that he needs to swing a deal or 2 for some offense!
Overall bad decision (as usual) last night by Nolan. The only one who got it right was Stan Fischler in his comments after the first period. And why? BECAUSE HE WAS A GOALIE and can see things as they actually are!
Don't blame this debacle of a team on the coach- Nolan may be the only reason this team is even in the hunt.
They have NOTHING, no scorers, no bangers, no playmakers, no speed, no defense. They do have a decent goalie. He was able to get this group to buy into the team concept and all their wins were a result of good team play.

I agree with riding the hot hand but you're right...Dubie was lucky to not lose to the Rangers Tuesday and a coach who's eyes are open would have recognized this. I say not lose because the Rangers blew some golden chances and lucky for the Islanders Lundqvist was not sharp-
MIKE

United States

#12 Mar 7, 2008
Chad wrote:
Lets not get crazy but you can't have Guerin be your main scoring threat. He can't do that anymore.
<quoted text>
Bill Guerin never was a premier goal scorer. Look at his numbers.
Mike Watt

Betterton, MD

#13 Mar 7, 2008
You are a bore. I asked you this before and I will ask you again. Name a coach better then Ted Nolan who who would Coach the New York Islanders. There is none. And where is your man Bergeron now?
This team does not have any players even resembling a 1st Liner. Without the Isles playing this system, they would be last overall in the NHL. Nolan is a great Coach. The only thing you have ever said right is DP should have started last nite.
Nolans DUMB wrote:
I was a a Jr. A goalie. Only goalies can see mistakes like this for how costly they actually are. Coaches, writers and announcers do not understand goalies. ANY goalie reading this will know I am correct. Nolans decision was not gutsy. It was STUPID!
a) It does not matter whether you feel that Dubie was left out to make near impossible stops anyway, so the outcome would be the same whether Smith, Resch, DP, etc. The mentality of the entire team needs to be that "we can win this game". When you start Dubie instead of DP, you immediately have the rest of the players feeling that they have the weaker goalie in net, and their backs are against the wall. That does NOT make them play better because they are in front of a goalie that needs more help. It makes them play worse, because as a team they have less confidence that they can win!
b) DP is a good goaltender 90 percent of the time. Dubie is good goalie 65 percent of the time. As a coach, you play the odds. The odds will always be that DP is the stronger choice. It does not matter that Dubie is hot at that moment. He would need to be volcano hot to convince me to make a move as stupid as Nolans. He has 1 good game at MSG. And I would not say it was volcano hot. It was simply exciting that he didn't blow the game for them. That is something we get from DP nearly every night anyway. But from Dubie it is unusual, so we were "excited" about it!
I am in the minority for saying this, and I have said it all season. Nolan is one of the serious WEAKNESSES of this team. He regularly benched what was the highest goal scorer on his PP (Bergeron). Doing so on a team with no offense, is a ridiculous move! He had a bias towards Chris Simon for the silly reason that they are both Native Americans, and go back a long time together. His bias was delusional to the point of complaining that Simons suspension was too harsh, when Simon actually should have been doing 3-5 in the penitentiary! And by the teams own admission they traded away their top PP scorer, partly as an appeasement to Nolan because they were also trading away his buddy Simon. A team that needs offense, needs offense. Therefore it was less important that Bergeron was a defensive liability, than it was that he can score on the PP. Likewise Berard, who Nolan also benched for much of the season. I could go on. Nolan makes a ton of obviously bad decisions as a coach.
And for the first time I have a bit of a problem with Garth Snow. It is inexcusable that Snow didn't see as far back as Nov/Dec that he needs to swing a deal or 2 for some offense!
Overall bad decision (as usual) last night by Nolan. The only one who got it right was Stan Fischler in his comments after the first period. And why? BECAUSE HE WAS A GOALIE and can see things as they actually are!
Chad

Mechanicsburg, PA

#14 Mar 7, 2008
Good point but if your going to be the captain and leader of the team then you need to score more than 2 goals in the last 22 games especially when your team is fighting for the playoffs. I know the Islanders didn't expect 50 goals from him but he only has 7 goals in 2008!
MIKE wrote:
<quoted text>
Bill Guerin never was a premier goal scorer. Look at his numbers.
isles

Bronx, NY

#15 Mar 7, 2008
TLITLKITIS wrote:
DP is overrated...
i am so sick of people saying he is overrated shut the f up man...i dont see you a pro do i? i dont see you stoping what over 1,300 shots this season just shut the f up

so sick of it
isles

Bronx, NY

#16 Mar 7, 2008
coldforce wrote:
Guerin should retire (Silly, Witt too)
Bring back Yash!
did you fall on ur head last night?
Phishstyx

Dallas, TX

#17 Mar 7, 2008
Don't even compare Yashin to Billy Guerin. Yashin was the absolute worst Islander to wear the Islander uniform. That piece of %^$# never tried or hustled. Thats why he's playing in Russia know one wanted him
4 the record

Belmar, NJ

#18 Mar 7, 2008
why the hell did they take down the earlier posts there were like 90 comments.
Busey

Melville, NY

#19 Mar 7, 2008
DP is the most overrated goaltender in the leauge.
Yo Range izz

Huntington, NY

#20 Mar 7, 2008
Man, you Rags act like the Rangers won the Stanley Cup!!!

They merely beat a team that was slated to be near the bottom of the East!!!!

You are pathetic!!! Get a life!!!!

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