Islanders GM Snow staying the course

Full story: Newsday

The addition of desperately needed sniper John Tavares, the No. 1 draft pick, and free-agent goaltender Dwayne Roloson as a starting-caliber backup for Rick DiPietro are two moves that could improve the Islanders dramatically.
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emn

Monroe, CT

#1 Jul 4, 2009
Would love to see Tanguay on the Island, he's the kind of guy you can snag on a 1 or 2 year and give Tavares a solid winger to set up or have to set him up.

I think Tambellini is a dream more than reality on the NHL level and it would take pressure off of Okposo/Bergenheim to be top guys.

Moving in the right direction, keep it up!
john

Abbotsford, Canada

#2 Jul 4, 2009
I am with the plan. Develop our players and forget about castaways mentioned in the article like Tanguay etc. I do see a glaring piece missing. That is toughness to protect Bailey, Tavares and co. I see that Chicago might have made a mistake in qualifying their free agents. One guy that caught my eye was Ben Eager in the playoffs. He can skate, hit, skate, fight and score the odd goal. Did I mention he is 6'5. It looks like he will be the 12 or 13th forward on their roster. He would be the perfect fit for us. Sign, trade or whatever for him.
Paul

Brooklyn, NY

#3 Jul 4, 2009
Bottom line is Snow has been told that he cannot go above the cap. That's fine. Just don't tell us you are leaving spots open for young guys. Tell us the owner is losing money and won't let you spend anymore. You can't call last season "unacceptable" and then basically bring back the same team.
None of Your Business

Oakland Gardens, NY

#4 Jul 4, 2009
Bottom line is they have not given Tambellini enough of a chance, he's signed so they have to keep giving him chances. Why not keep a guy since 2006 who's a first round pick who can score instead of dumping him and let him be good elsewhere, he showed progress last season at times.

Isn't that the Milbury plan many claim you no longer wanted a part of.

Have any of you looked at Afinogenov's numbers for the last three years?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/1906

Eager is a stiff that at best is an upgrade on Sutton who had one fluke scoring season.

What's the point of drafting a Joensuu, Figren or signing a young UFA like Trevor Smith with such high picks and then adding retreads who are available because they have been mediocre? Why not find out if a DiBenedetto can put the puck in the net or finally call up a Kohn or MacDonald.

They have been investing time and money into these prospects for years.

It's not the money or Wang, there are simply not enough roster spots unless you want to kick signed players off
the team.

They need a scoring winger to replace Guerin's sporadic production, for now why not see if one of these kids can fit the bill.

Who cares if Jackman or Rechlicz or Sutton-Witt-Thompson lose a fight by appointment they are not skating with Tavares just like Godard will not skate with Crosby. What's important is that Bergenheim keeps scoring, Comeau learns how to score and gets a full season, that Bailey scores a lot more and develops and Okposo picks up where he left off.

Meanwhile Hunter, Weight have to score some even strength goals and above all this team cannot lose another 580 games to injury.

This group finally stays healthy they will be in the playoff race all season next year. That day the kids bombed Brodeur was the best day of last season, it was all off good setups in front.
Steve

Oyster Bay, NY

#5 Jul 4, 2009
i'm not concerned about the scoring or defense really. look the islanders can add Bobby Orr and Wayne Gretzky to the team and they'd still be pitiful. I'm more concerned about getting in some toughness to help protect Okposo, Bailey & Tavares.
Clem

AOL

#6 Jul 4, 2009
I dont mind playing the kids but I personally am hard pressed to call him an NHL GM. He seems like he is more concerned with the AHL team. He signs barely anyone to improve in the NHL including people who could be with us longer then a year or 2 ala Tanguay. But no he would rather play the team of kids and have them get their a$$e$ beat every game. It makes no sense to me at all!!

As someone I was talking to yesterday said:

"Garth Snow is the best GM in the AHL"
None of Your Business

Oakland Gardens, NY

#7 Jul 4, 2009
Steve wrote:
i'm not concerned about the scoring or defense really. look the islanders can add Bobby Orr and Wayne Gretzky to the team and they'd still be pitiful. I'm more concerned about getting in some toughness to help protect Okposo, Bailey & Tavares.
What's pitiful is so many fans don't understand what losing a league record 580 man games to injury does to a roster combined with a league leading 402 lost the year before and that's the only reason they had such a poor season in the first place.

For so many it's not even a consideration like any team should overcome it, no one does but for the Islanders it's almost never a story.

So where do you want to put that toughness for Tavares, Bailey and Okposo because they are not going to be skating on their lines. You want to bench Bergenheim so Rechlicz can skate with him and not keep him?

You think Godard skates with Crosby or Malkin? Or that Parise-Zajac-Gionta, Elias had fighters on their lines? We had Asham here a long time, great middleweight but you think he plays with Hartnell or Briere or Carter-Richards in Philadelphia?

How many tough guys that scored fifty-six points with twenty goals that can play in any teams top six forwards are even in this league anymore.

They don't make players like Gillies anymore, that's why he's in the Hall of Fame.
None of Your Business

Oakland Gardens, NY

#9 Jul 4, 2009
Clem wrote:
I dont mind playing the kids but I personally am hard pressed to call him an NHL GM. He seems like he is more concerned with the AHL team.
He sure seemed to do a great job and better than most general manager's recognizing Streit's talent and got a year out of Weight few expected, last year he did a fantastic job signing Witt and Hunter to very good contracts.

Every year teams go and fill out their AHL rosters with depth veterans, that's part of his job. He cleared spots in Bridgeport for DiBenedetto, Katic and some of his draft picks and the year before signed Marcinko, Joensuu and finally got Figren there at the end.
Clem wrote:
He signs barely anyone to improve in the NHL including people who could be with us longer then a year or 2 ala Tanguay.
Sure looked like Streit improved playing great defense and twenty five minute games.

Is this the same Tanguay who will play for his fourth team in five years who played only fifty games last year and scored two more goals than Richard Park?

So who do you want Snow to sign and what prospects to you want to kick off the roster so we can go back tgo the Milbury plan. When Joensuu or some of these other kids play well elsewhere what will you say then?
Clem wrote:
But no he would rather play the team of kids and have them get their **** e$ beat every game. It makes no sense to me at all!!
That plan seems to work fine for a lot of organizations, just look at teams that finally start winning once those kids get used to this level.

Otherwise let's get the Milbury plan back and sign the next Satan or give Tanguay a five year deal to be Richard Park, lets get Blake back in here so he can score twenty and send Nielsen, Bergenheim and Comeau packing and the club can finish eight and lose in the first round.

Let's see what these kids do with a healthy roster (not one that lost a league record for injuries) and supporting cast for the first time in three years.

Funny but George McPhee a decade ago was seen like Snow and worse, he lost for a long, long time and signing the big names did nothing for the caps until last season when they finally got those prospects in.
None of Your Business

Oakland Gardens, NY

#10 Jul 4, 2009
A decade ago we had a guy named John Valenti doing the Islander beat in Newsday who wrote about the prospects and giving us a lot of what we just read in this article.

He now writes the weather report for Newsday.
Clem

AOL

#11 Jul 4, 2009
None of Your Business wrote:
<quoted text>
He sure seemed to do a great job and better than most general manager's recognizing Streit's talent and got a year out of Weight few expected, last year he did a fantastic job signing Witt and Hunter to very good contracts.
Every year teams go and fill out their AHL rosters with depth veterans, that's part of his job. He cleared spots in Bridgeport for DiBenedetto, Katic and some of his draft picks and the year before signed Marcinko, Joensuu and finally got Figren there at the end.
<quoted text>
Sure looked like Streit improved playing great defense and twenty five minute games.
Is this the same Tanguay who will play for his fourth team in five years who played only fifty games last year and scored two more goals than Richard Park?
So who do you want Snow to sign and what prospects to you want to kick off the roster so we can go back tgo the Milbury plan. When Joensuu or some of these other kids play well elsewhere what will you say then?
<quoted text>
That plan seems to work fine for a lot of organizations, just look at teams that finally start winning once those kids get used to this level.
Otherwise let's get the Milbury plan back and sign the next Satan or give Tanguay a five year deal to be Richard Park, lets get Blake back in here so he can score twenty and send Nielsen, Bergenheim and Comeau packing and the club can finish eight and lose in the first round.
Let's see what these kids do with a healthy roster (not one that lost a league record for injuries) and supporting cast for the first time in three years.
Funny but George McPhee a decade ago was seen like Snow and worse, he lost for a long, long time and signing the big names did nothing for the caps until last season when they finally got those prospects in.
While your right he did good with Streit but I dont think he even expected him to be as good as he is. Just MHO! BTW He got lucky with Weight, he gave Weight a chance and he did good and I am happy he did. But he very easily couldve been garbage. I am not saying to send people like Bergy and Nielsen packing. I dont like Tamby so I will use him as an ex. Would you rather have a guy like Tamby here so he can get 15-20 pts again or would you rather have a guy here who can put up 60-70 pts and help to show the kids what it is like to play on a decent team rather then a celler dweller?
David Volek

Monticello, NY

#12 Jul 4, 2009
None of Your Business wrote:
Bottom line is they have not given Tambellini enough of a chance, he's signed so they have to keep giving him chances. Why not keep a guy since 2006 who's a first round pick who can score instead of dumping him and let him be good elsewhere, he showed progress last season at times.
Isn't that the Milbury plan many claim you no longer wanted a part of.
Have any of you looked at Afinogenov's numbers for the last three years?
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/1906
Eager is a stiff that at best is an upgrade on Sutton who had one fluke scoring season.
What's the point of drafting a Joensuu, Figren or signing a young UFA like Trevor Smith with such high picks and then adding retreads who are available because they have been mediocre? Why not find out if a DiBenedetto can put the puck in the net or finally call up a Kohn or MacDonald.
They have been investing time and money into these prospects for years.
It's not the money or Wang, there are simply not enough roster spots unless you want to kick signed players off
the team.
They need a scoring winger to replace Guerin's sporadic production, for now why not see if one of these kids can fit the bill.
Who cares if Jackman or Rechlicz or Sutton-Witt-Thompson lose a fight by appointment they are not skating with Tavares just like Godard will not skate with Crosby. What's important is that Bergenheim keeps scoring, Comeau learns how to score and gets a full season, that Bailey scores a lot more and develops and Okposo picks up where he left off.
Meanwhile Hunter, Weight have to score some even strength goals and above all this team cannot lose another 580 games to injury.
This group finally stays healthy they will be in the playoff race all season next year. That day the kids bombed Brodeur was the best day of last season, it was all off good setups in front.
Jeff Tambellini had 7 goals last year. He's had more chances than anyone on the team to make it at this level. Lord knows they want him to succeed but the truth is, he's not an NHLer. Hes fast, and can bury the once in a while shoot out wrister, but other than that he's useless. He cannot push anyone off the puck and he cannot hit. I dont care how fast he is, or how much "promise" he has. The fact is, its been how long and he just doesnt have it. You cant worry about him all of a sudden coming into his own for another team, because as it stands right now he's a debit. If anything he's taking up a roster spot for an Alex Tanguay type forward. Its time to finally admit that they made a mistake in that Parrish trade and move on.
Jay

Columbus, OH

#13 Jul 5, 2009
Clem wrote:
I dont mind playing the kids but I personally am hard pressed to call him an NHL GM. He seems like he is more concerned with the AHL team. He signs barely anyone to improve in the NHL including people who could be with us longer then a year or 2 ala Tanguay. But no he would rather play the team of kids and have them get their **** e$ beat every game. It makes no sense to me at all!!
As someone I was talking to yesterday said:
"Garth Snow is the best GM in the AHL"
I agree with you. Seen several good-to-great Free Agents get signed by other times that could have easily fit the Islander's youth movement (age 20-30) and salary cap.

A list of FA that could have been signed Snow.... Michael Cammalleri, Chad LaRose, Jordan Leopold, Joel Ward, Mattias Ohlund, Nik Antropov, or Martin Havlat.
NYI Fan Central

Floral Park, NY

#14 Jul 5, 2009
Wow, nice job None of Your Business. Almost like you posted 7 hours ago,then created the name "Steve" and responded to yourself.

I want to see the Isles trade Joey McDonald, Jon Sim, perhaps (and ths is a big perhaps since I hesitate to deal him) Tambellini for a top young goal scorer. Who do you think we can get?

BilyIsles
NYI Fan Central

Floral Park, NY

#15 Jul 5, 2009
Volek: Tambelini is topp young player that needs a chance. Learn the game please.

BillyIsles
ISLES

Lake Hopatcong, NJ

#16 Jul 5, 2009
Paul wrote:
Bottom line is Snow has been told that he cannot go above the cap. That's fine. Just don't tell us you are leaving spots open for young guys. Tell us the owner is losing money and won't let you spend anymore. You can't call last season "unacceptable" and then basically bring back the same team.
Going above the cap has nothing to do with this. The Isles are nowhere near the cap limit. The article is talking about signings bringing the Isles up to the cap minimum. The plan all along has been to bring the young players along. If all goes well with development this year, next year will be the year to make a splash in free agency and make a push towards winning something. At that point, hopefully the lighthouse project is approved in some shape and manner and the Isles will be in better cap position than the rest of the nhl. They will be able to overpay to lure a couple of big free agents if necessary. We're not that far away. There will be one more season of losing and then things will begin to turn. And, by building this way, they will be able to sustain a resurgence with a good young core of players that will be around for a while.
David Volek

Monticello, NY

#17 Jul 5, 2009
NYI Fan Central wrote:
Volek: Tambelini is topp young player that needs a chance. Learn the game please.
BillyIsles
Top young player?? Learn the game?? Lets not just spew what we read, lets talk facts. FACT Jeff Tambellini for some reason cannot score at the NHL level. He's played games on the isles for 4 seasons and has totaled 11 goals in 144 games. Those are not numbers for a top six forward. Im not a believer in stats, but those stats should not be overlooked. FACT, Tambeweenie is not strong on the wall. FACT, he's too small to finish his checks, and so as a result he just doesnt hit.
So I ask you, why is he a top young player? How many chances do you give a prospect before you realize that he's not going to be the player you thought? Im the one that should learn the game????? I think not sir.
ISLES

Lake Hopatcong, NJ

#18 Jul 5, 2009
NYI Fan Central wrote:
Wow, nice job None of Your Business. Almost like you posted 7 hours ago,then created the name "Steve" and responded to yourself.
I want to see the Isles trade Joey McDonald, Jon Sim, perhaps (and ths is a big perhaps since I hesitate to deal him) Tambellini for a top young goal scorer. Who do you think we can get?
BilyIsles
Are you serious with this trade suggestion?? This is the second time I've seen you post this. Talk about needing to learn hockey. Jon Sim passed through waivers last year with no bites. The Isles aren't even re-signing McDonald. Even so, what makes you think that some team is going to give up a top young scorer for another team's garbage? Maybe we could offer the capitals tambellini and hilbert for ovechkin. I mean, the capitals would be crazy not to do that because they would get 2 players and only have to give up 1, right?
David Volek

Monticello, NY

#19 Jul 5, 2009
NYI Fan Central wrote:
Volek: Tambelini is topp young player that needs a chance. Learn the game please.
BillyIsles
The truth is about tambellini, is that they made a mistake and signed him to a one way contract. They dont wanna pay him NHL money to send him to bridgeport. Now they are stuck with him taking up ice time from someone who could be more productive. Dont kid yourself..........NOONE is giving up a top prospect for a kid who has 11 goals in 144 games.

There is no reason why Blake Comeau is playing for bridgeport and Jeff Tambellini is in the show. This is one of the few question marks i have for garth snow.
Isles will b lousy 4 yrs

Massapequa, NY

#20 Jul 5, 2009
Wang blows as an owner--Snow is a joke in NHL
This team will be on bottom of NHL for 2-3 years & will then move--but when you do please take Kate Murray with you!!!
Hattrick72

Brooklyn, NY

#21 Jul 5, 2009
Paul from Syosset was right on point with one of the best lines i have read in a while.

"You can't call last season "unacceptable" and then basically bring back the same team."

Couldnt be more accurate!

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