How to fix the Islanders

How to fix the Islanders

There are 13 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 13, 2008, titled How to fix the Islanders. In it, Newsday reports that:

Whether Islanders fans agree with it or not, the process of fixing the franchise began in earnest last summer when owner Charles Wang chose general manager Garth Snow over coach Ted Nolan and gave Snow the ...

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Dino

Ridgewood, NY

#1 Dec 13, 2008
6- sell team, move, and/or change name
Transplanted Islander Fan

Greenwood Lake, NY

#2 Dec 14, 2008
it was always my understanding that the coach built a system around the players he had to work with, not the other way around. me thinks the system is working a little a$$ backwards.
4CUPS80S

AOL

#3 Dec 14, 2008
Transplanted Islander Fan wrote:
it was always my understanding that the coach built a system around the players he had to work with, not the other way around. me thinks the system is working a little **** backwards.
Totally agree! This coach is not the answer! This team does not have the talent or skill to play Gordon's system. They can forecheck all they want but there is not one player on this team that can finish. Not only that, but because this system also creates defensive problems, their opponents are finishing and taking full advantage of the Isles missed opportunities. The Isles have at this point given up the most goals in the NHL while they have'nt been scoring more. I remember the early '70's Isles and they did'nt have any big scorers either. In fact Denis Potvin was the team's leading scorer for 2 years. But in Al Arbour's first year he made the team be accountable defensively 1st, so that they'd have a chance to win in most games. It worked as they were a .500 team and cut 100 goals off their goals against. Arbour always believed that your D creates your offensive opportunities. He must've been right 'cause as the Isles every year acquired better goal scorers their D did'nt suffer. The team got better 'cause they were now able to finish their chances while maintaining their defensive posture. In fact, even the great Oiler teams adapted this philosophy in the playoffs following their losses to the Isles in previous years. Thus the greatness of Arbour. Gordon is going about this backwards! He's trying to turn a bunch of clydesdales into race horses! This system works fine and is exciting if you've got the skilled players to make it work and a goalie that can stand on his head like a Fuhr or Roy. But without the right players, we're starting to see the scars of losing. Hold on folks, it's only going to get worse and be a very long few years.
chip saunders

Valley Stream, NY

#4 Dec 14, 2008
This one of those awful years we have to live with as an Isle's fan.This hasn't done anything right in 15 years.
Jim Clark

New York, NY

#5 Dec 14, 2008
6-change jersey and logo to reflect Long Island heritage of hard working people, such as a fisherman.
chip saunders

Valley Stream, NY

#6 Dec 14, 2008
Jim Clark wrote:
6-change jersey and logo to reflect Long Island heritage of hard working people, such as a fisherman.
LOL,Ah yes,the Fish Stick man,bad times,bad times.
Smythe

Brooklyn, NY

#7 Dec 14, 2008
....A trip through a time machine back to the early 80s. Let the current roster experience the very definition of excellence.
Greg_Avon

New Bedford, MA

#8 Dec 14, 2008
Sounds great but I give the Isles 3 years to be in Vegas and please don't attack me as a CT Person I lived on LI most of my life was in the area during the glory years and through the fishstick mess, as a former season ticket holder.

The reality is the Lighthouse Project will never see the light of day, it is way to complicated and requires Hempstead to make way to many infrastructure modifications, and has anyone noticed the economy these days, Charles is not stupid with regards to business he knows the writing is on the wall.

There isn't enough of a fan base to support the team (season ticket holders way down) through some more lean years. The ticket prices are way to high for watching an AHL level team it is just not worth it regardless of those family fun packs, again it comes down to the economy.

The NHL doesn't even want the team there Gary Bettman would pack and drive the truck to Vegas. Watch his facial expressions during those interviews on the Islanders broadcasts tells the whole story, he is grateful for what Charles is attempting to do but the reality is he hates it and wants it to fail. Think about the potential of Vegas...Casino's, the ice girls would have a Vegas look and then there is hockey. Wow, win win...

The reality is this will not end pretty, be ready it is just the plan hard facts.
chip saunders

Valley Stream, NY

#9 Dec 14, 2008
Greg_Avon wrote:
Sounds great but I give the Isles 3 years to be in Vegas and please don't attack me as a CT Person I lived on LI most of my life was in the area during the glory years and through the fishstick mess, as a former season ticket holder.
The reality is the Lighthouse Project will never see the light of day, it is way to complicated and requires Hempstead to make way to many infrastructure modifications, and has anyone noticed the economy these days, Charles is not stupid with regards to business he knows the writing is on the wall.
There isn't enough of a fan base to support the team (season ticket holders way down) through some more lean years. The ticket prices are way to high for watching an AHL level team it is just not worth it regardless of those family fun packs, again it comes down to the economy.
The NHL doesn't even want the team there Gary Bettman would pack and drive the truck to Vegas. Watch his facial expressions during those interviews on the Islanders broadcasts tells the whole story, he is grateful for what Charles is attempting to do but the reality is he hates it and wants it to fail. Think about the potential of Vegas...Casino's, the ice girls would have a Vegas look and then there is hockey. Wow, win win...
The reality is this will not end pretty, be ready it is just the plan hard facts.
Unfortunatly,I think your right Greg. Once Wang gives up the ship,and you know he will,he will sell to someone who want's to move the team to Vegas,or Kansas City.It will be a sad day for us Islander fan's.
4therecord

Neptune, NJ

#12 Dec 14, 2008
F*ck you all! None of you are REAL, TRUE islanders fans. Maybe if more people supported the project grassroots style then this can go through and we can stockpile some young talent over the next few seasons and be good in a new complex not that long from now. Talking about moving the team! Are you nuts? This team is been here 35 years. It should be illegal to move a team thats been in one area for so long. What Modell did to cleveland was criminal. All of you who say just move the team or it will be moved arent true fans. Just stop reading Islanders articles all together. Nobody wants you at games anyway. Not like you will support the team when it is good, or maybe you will a little bit because your a bunch of front runners. Probably claimed to have been the biggest fans in the world during the dynasty era.
NYStateOfMInd

Ridgewood, NY

#14 Dec 14, 2008
I believe the turning point of this franchise was 20 years ago when Nassau County along with John O.(No!) Pickett "sold" the management contract of NVMC to SMG (Spectacor Management Group) for the quick dollar. Everyone, including Alphonse (Allie Boy) D'Amato, tried to reneogiate the management contract with SMG to no avail...

The only way the Islanders can get out of the management contract is if they are sold and/or moved. Otherwise. Charles Wang needs the Lighthouse Project to make the Islanders a financial success...

Time will tell...
4therecord

Neptune, NJ

#15 Dec 14, 2008
Well the Islanders are definitely one of the most important things in my life, yes. I became a fan during the early 90s and have been hooked since. I love hockey in general and have watched many many playoff games that have not included the Islanders for years now. Moving the team would be better for who? The people that get the f*cking team? Moving from quebec was a travesty because those are the best hockey fans in the world up in that providence. This would be even a bigger travesty because this team has been here for longer then that team was in quebec city. How many teams are moved after 35 years. As I stated, what happened in cleveland was criminal, same with what happened in new york when the Giants and Dodgers moved in the 1957, but atleast the mets came and people had a team to root for not long after. I dont care if its privately owned. What the hell do I care. Most teams are privately owned you douche. I just love watching the beautiful Islander crest on the sweater. Dont worry about me, Dont feel sorry for me KC. I go out pleanty, but after the Islander game! Because that comes first pal. I can spare the 2 and half hours BEFORE I go out! Where would you like me to go out to..East Setauket? Sorry im not white trash, dont go that far east. Yea talk about Communismn like a real true american. You even sound white trash. You probably think it takes more skill to play Baseball than Soccer as well....fool. What Modell did to the great Cleveland browns fans was criminal and Art Modell should have been shot! Yes he does deserve to die for moving a team that represented a city well for many years, just like the Islanders have done for Long Island. For your sake and people like you, I would not want a talk of a move to take place in the next 1-2 years because people like me become angry and dangerous! So just watch yourself. ANd yes there should be some kind of rule that says that a team cant be moved from a location if it started there as an expanstion team and has been there for X amount of years (lets say 30 thas a fair number)
Dino

Ridgewood, NY

#16 Dec 14, 2008
4therecord wrote:
Well the Islanders are definitely one of the most important things in my life, yes. I became a fan during the early 90s and have been hooked since. I love hockey in general and have watched many many playoff games that have not included the Islanders for years now. Moving the team would be better for who? The people that get the **** team? Moving from quebec was a travesty because those are the best hockey fans in the world up in that providence. This would be even a bigger travesty because this team has been here for longer then that team was in quebec city. How many teams are moved after 35 years. As I stated, what happened in cleveland was criminal, same with what happened in new york when the Giants and Dodgers moved in the 1957, but atleast the mets came and people had a team to root for not long after. I dont care if its privately owned. What the hell do I care. Most teams are privately owned you ****. I just love watching the beautiful Islander crest on the sweater. Dont worry about me, Dont feel sorry for me KC. I go out pleanty, but after the Islander game! Because that comes first pal. I can spare the 2 and half hours BEFORE I go out! Where would you like me to go out to..East Setauket? Sorry im not ****, dont go that far east. Yea talk about Communismn like a real true american. You even sound ****. You probably think it takes more skill to play Baseball than Soccer as well....fool. What Modell did to the great Cleveland **** fans was criminal and Art Modell should have been shot! Yes he does deserve to die for moving a team that represented a city well for many years, just like the Islanders have done for Long Island. For your sake and people like you, I would not want a talk of a move to take place in the next 1-2 years because people like me become angry and dangerous! So just watch yourself. ANd yes there should be some kind of rule that says that a team cant be moved from a location if it started there as an expanstion team and has been there for X amount of years (lets say 30 thas a fair number)
you my friend, are a true fan and I respect that.

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