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Florida Panthers, free agent Stephen Weiss miles apart in contr...

There are 65 comments on the SouthFlorida.com story from Jul 31, 2007, titled Florida Panthers, free agent Stephen Weiss miles apart in contr.... In it, SouthFlorida.com reports that:

With a wide gap separating the Panthers and restricted free agent center Stephen Weiss in contract negotiations, at least other three teams have inquired about signing him to an offer sheet, Weiss' agent, Pat ...

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RED BARON

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#1 Jul 31, 2007
Looks like cheapskate Cohen and his clamshell wallet are at it again. If they let Weiss walk with the amount of cap space this team has, they deserve to lose. Finally some newer fans posting here can see Cohen in action and understand why the team hasn't achieved anything in a decade despite and endless litany of coaches and GMs. Recall we were given the bull crap that no major free agent signings were made this offseason so that players like Weiss would have the ice time to make an impact. What a joke that will be if Weiss is gone. Meanwhile Yormark is taking advance orders for the lousy new jerseys in a thinly veiled attempt to extract more money from what fans are left. I love this team, but I am so fed up with this ownership and lousy management. It is like a curse that never ends. Sign Weiss damn it or lose the season you morons!
Rat Boy

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#2 Jul 31, 2007
Pat Morris is "surprised" that Alex Auld hasn't drawn much interest??? Are you kidding me? Did he see Auld in action last year?
Rat Boy

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#3 Jul 31, 2007
RED BARON wrote:
Looks like cheapskate Cohen and his clamshell wallet are at it again. If they let Weiss walk with the amount of cap space this team has, they deserve to lose. Finally some newer fans posting here can see Cohen in action and understand why the team hasn't achieved anything in a decade despite and endless litany of coaches and GMs. Recall we were given the bull crap that no major free agent signings were made this offseason so that players like Weiss would have the ice time to make an impact. What a joke that will be if Weiss is gone. Meanwhile Yormark is taking advance orders for the lousy new jerseys in a thinly veiled attempt to extract more money from what fans are left. I love this team, but I am so fed up with this ownership and lousy management. It is like a curse that never ends. Sign Weiss damn it or lose the season you morons!
Give it time, Red. I think Martin has proven he knows what he's doing on the GM side. Let him do his negotiating thing. The last thing we need is to start spending foolishly on still-young players. I'm glad we aren't acting like Kevin Lowe and the Oilers.

“Midnight Sons”

Since: Jun 07

Miami, Fl

#4 Jul 31, 2007
Rat Boy wrote:
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Give it time, Red. I think Martin has proven he knows what he's doing on the GM side. Let him do his negotiating thing. The last thing we need is to start spending foolishly on still-young players. I'm glad we aren't acting like Kevin Lowe and the Oilers.
yeah, Weiss could've been a bigger contributor then Horton was last year. There's alot expected from Stephen and he hasn't exactly been working as hard for it yet.
I think since they put that "A" on his chest last year, he feels hes deserving of more.
I want weiss on this team, he's essential. But this is why i dislike player's agents... it's all about the $.
RED BARON

Deerfield Beach, FL

#5 Jul 31, 2007
Rat Boy wrote:
Pat Morris is "surprised" that Alex Auld hasn't drawn much interest??? Are you kidding me? Did he see Auld in action last year?
I had to chuckle about that too. After Auld's meltdowns last season, who in their sane mind would sign him to an NHL contract at this point? Auld would be better off just playing in the minors and try to rebuild his credibility.
Rob

Germantown, TN

#6 Jul 31, 2007
sign him now!!!!!!!!
Ken

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#7 Jul 31, 2007
thse agents won't be happy untilthe NHL goes the way of baseball and basketball. Weiss deserves a long term contract but he isn't worth 4.2mil a year.IMO there isn't a player in any sport worth 4.2 mil a year but when deep pockets can get to say that they own someone that's what happens.Bring back the old style hockey where a player earned his pay.
PanthersGoal

United States

#8 Jul 31, 2007
Well, here we go. I agree that the money Weiss is looking for seems VERY high...problem is, he's sniffed around, and he sees clowns like Lowe who will throw 4.2 at a man making 475,000 per year. What's the kid supposed to think? I saw this weeks ago, I'm sure many of us did..yeah he grieved for his grandpa..but he's also seeing this crazy market go nuts, and he's wanting a piece. This can really turn ugly IMO, and I believe we have a 50/50 shot at getting him, that's about it. Someone is gonna throw a big dollar at him, then...it'll be up to us to match. WE WON'T, because that will upset the apple-cart for sanity (cheapness) depends on how you look at it. I like Weiss, and would want him to stay, BUT..he can't be the highest paid guy on the team, and that's a possibility if they had to match one of these ridiculous offers made to him. I thought maybe if Jokinen, Horton, etc gave him the "talk" he'd come back to reality..BUT REALITY IS..someone is more than likely willing to overpay for his services. It's not going to happen here. The only reason we got Vokoun is because they bought the three year contract that went with him...otherwise, quite honestly we weren't getting in any bidding war for any quality goaltender. We got lucky with him, plain and simple.
They stayed FAR away from signing ANY high dollar F/A, and if they lose Weiss, that's NOT gonna open MORE dollars for them to spend on someone else...it's gonna allow them to SAVE that much more and put another kid on the team. BTW, for the ONE MILLIONTH time, who's gonna offer up some grit on this team besides Allen? who? Montador? how about sneaking a little bit of the profits/coupon clipping savings and making an offer to Aaron Asham...Come on Jacques, you go to your office...then..you pick up the phone...then...you drop a few coins in the recepticle.........
Chris Wells

Miami Beach, FL

#9 Jul 31, 2007
Weiss is seeking $3.25 and the Panthers are offering $2.5. This doesn't seem like "miles apart" to me. I think (hope) the Panthers are just negotiating to get a "good" deal done here. Weiss is a solid young player with a lot of potential coming into the prime of his career. If he can stay healthy, he will be a big part of this team in the future. Maybe Edmonton will sign him to an offer sheet and force the Panthers hand?
Truth

Tallahassee, FL

#10 Jul 31, 2007
He does not deserve Horton-type money. He is finally cioming into his own but is not yet there.
Truth

Tallahassee, FL

#11 Jul 31, 2007
RED BARON wrote:
Looks like cheapskate Cohen and his clamshell wallet are at it again. If they let Weiss walk with the amount of cap space this team has, they deserve to lose. Finally some newer fans posting here can see Cohen in action and understand why the team hasn't achieved anything in a decade despite and endless litany of coaches and GMs. Recall we were given the bull crap that no major free agent signings were made this offseason so that players like Weiss would have the ice time to make an impact. What a joke that will be if Weiss is gone. Meanwhile Yormark is taking advance orders for the lousy new jerseys in a thinly veiled attempt to extract more money from what fans are left. I love this team, but I am so fed up with this ownership and lousy management. It is like a curse that never ends. Sign Weiss damn it or lose the season you morons!
There is no point in overpaying for a player who does not deserve an inflated salary.
The Troof

Hollywood, FL

#12 Jul 31, 2007
Truth wrote:
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There is no point in overpaying for a player who does not deserve an inflated salary.
Yes there is. Sign him and we are a better team. Let him walk and we are worse. This is an old story with this team and it's getting older.
Captain

Pompano Beach, FL

#13 Jul 31, 2007
I hope Ducks go for the picks because if they match Oilers offer for Dustin Penner, then the Oilers will make an offer to Weiss and then JM has a serious problem.... Weiss has the potential to be a star BUT until he scores Horton or Olli goals he doesn't deserve their kind of money. Penner had one good season it is quite possible he goes to Edmonton and does a Lupal and they are stuck with a big contract and even more possible that in a few years the cap goes down and teams are stuck with big contracts on guys not performing that were signed on their potential. Just because the cap went up this year doesn't mean it will stay up.
Hockey Fan

Wayne, NJ

#14 Jul 31, 2007
Question? Which line was the hottest for the Panthers at the end of last season? Yes, you are right! Horton, Weiss and Gelenas. Well, lets see, Marty is now gone and they are playing around with Weiss--will the Panthers never learn?
Panther Fan

Hollywood, FL

#15 Jul 31, 2007
i like weiss alot but if someone offers him 5 million a year bye bye wiess i take the 4 first rounders.dont worry no one will offer him anything lower than 5 mill that the panthers wont match.weiss has to step it up and i dont think he derserves horton type money.well just see but if the oil wants to give me 1st rounders cya weiss and maybe we can get traves

Since: Jul 07

Vero Beach, FL

#16 Jul 31, 2007
Well, I think 3.25mil a year is not too bad, especially if we can sign him for 5-6 years. Jacques will probably offer a long-term contract for less money a year. But they can't take too long, because once an offer comes from another team...bye Weiss. Also, why Asham hasn't been signed by us is beyond me. We need a player like him BADLY. We have the money to spend. Maybe that's why Jacques is trying to get Weiss for less, so he can add a physical player??? We still need to sing Bouw, and he's not going to be cheap.
Bob

United States

#17 Jul 31, 2007
When Weiss puts up numbers like Horton, he can ask for money like Horton. Nathan is also 3 years younger than Weiss at 22, and has a higher ceiling. While Weiss will be a good 2nd line center, Horton will be an all-star power forward.
Truth

Tallahassee, FL

#18 Jul 31, 2007
In the salary cap era, no team should feel they are being held hostage by a single player. He should be paid his worth. For five years he has been here, he has not been close to Horton.
RED BARON

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#19 Jul 31, 2007
Truth wrote:
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There is no point in overpaying for a player who does not deserve an inflated salary.
That's fine and dandy, but when that player is your fourth leading points producer and penalty kill specialist (on a penalty happy team) you better have a plan "B" or your season will be shot. Martin can't afford to screw the pooch on this one. We passed up on some great FA's so that we could pay for guys like Weiss and give him the ice time he deserves. If he leaves for bigger $$$ it will kill the team's morale and put us in a worse position than last season. I know player salaries are over-inflated, but the Panthers will not fix that. That nonsense has to stop from ridiculous teams like the NY Rangers. Unfortunately, cheapness has been the biggest obstacle to overcome for this franchise since clamshell Cohen took over.
hepcat13

Charlotte, NC

#20 Jul 31, 2007
I totally agree. Weiss is a young player on the rise and although he has not yet fulfilled his potential or fully met the expectations of the team and the fans, it's better for us to pony up the cash and take a chance on the likely possibility that he could do those things here rather than on another team. It's not as though there are plenty of other good free agents still available and as is we lack substantial depth. How well has quibbling over a few hundred thousand served us in the past? Obviously, it's bad for the whole league when salaries spin out of control, but the fact is, the longer we screw around with this situation and a player we were supposedly committed to signing long-term (which, to me, suggests we think he is an important piece of the big picture), the more we run the risk that he does get an outrageous offer from a team like Edmonton. At that point, we'll find ourselves in a lose-lose situation, either letting him go with no replacement (Gelinas, anybody) or having to pay much more than $3.25 million to keep him. Neither of those options makes us a better team and it really seems like Martin & the ownership have lost sight of the fact that improvement was supposed to be the top priority.

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