Second-class citizen?

Second-class citizen?

There are 46 comments on the Eureka Times Standard story from Dec 30, 2009, titled Second-class citizen?. In it, Eureka Times Standard reports that:

All I wanted for Christmas was my civil rights back. California's adopted citizens are discriminated against and denied the simple human right to look at their own birth certificates -- a right all others take for granted.

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Mara

AOL

#48 Jan 7, 2010
Malama-Congratulations, your story is unfortunately NOT THE NORM. Give yourself a pat on the back for being EXTRA SPECIAL.

Mr. Bill people like you are the reason abortions are so common. Who would want to have a child that came out so ugly?

PS: My mother never contemplated abortion but I bet yours did. FAIL.
Adopted in California

United States

#49 Jul 1, 2010
Amanda wrote:
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Stephanie, I just traced my lineage and I am a direct descendant from the Mayflower too!!
By sealing my records, not only were we robbed of our birthright to our amazing family heritage but these ancestral heroes were robbed of having US as their legacy!:-)
Gaye Tannenbaum wrote:
While I'm pleased that some Massachusetts-born adoptees have had their rights restored, please note that if you were born or adopted between July 18, 1974 and December 31, 2007, you have no rights.
Can anyone explain how this is NOT discrimination?
I am also a Mayflower descendant. However, I am having trouble being approved by the various Mayflower (and specific passenger) societies because I cannot provide a BIRTH CERTIFICATE. I have been happily reunited for nearly a decade. My father (biological) told me about our ancestry. A great cousin (biological) who is a member of the Mayflower society encouraged me to join. I attempted to obtain a copy of my birth certificate via a court petition, which is the only option in the county in California in which I was adopted. My petition was denied for "lack of good cause."

Parents who give up their children for adoption (or otherwise lose their parental rights) cannot be assured that a legal adoption will be finalized. If one is not finalized, there is NO SEALED RECORD. How then, can anyone suggest that sealing birth records has anything to do with "birthparent anonymity?" The records don't seal upon relinquishment. They don't seal when a child is placed with a family. They ONLY seal if and when a legal adoption is finalized by the court. The sealed records are about the adoption, not about the relinquishment.

Further, adopted citizens are the ONLY citizens in 44 states who don't have the right to unfettered access of their own, actual birth certificates. That is discrimination. All other issues are separate. Taking away a societal segment's equal rights out of fear of other circumstances possibly occurring doesn't make it okay. A lot of people were frightened of the ramifications of women getting the vote or of the Civil Rights Act, but do we not consider legal equality above that? Other issues can and should be handled on an individual basis.
Adopted in California

United States

#50 Jul 1, 2010
TRUTH wrote:
People give up children for all sorts of reasons. They were promise anonymity and the system should uphold their rights.

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They were not promised anonymity under the law. It's impossible to promise them anonymity under our laws. Records began sealing in the 1930s, and anonymity had nothing to do with it. If it was about anonymity, the records would seal upon relinquishment. If it was about anonymity, they would seal whether there was an adoption or not. If it was about anonymity, there would be no provision for unsealing them.(There are provisions for unsealing via the courts. If a petition to unseal is granted, the birth parents are NOT notified.)

The reality is this. The records do not seal upon relinquishment. They do not seal when a child is placed with a family. They only seal if and when a legal adoption is finalized by the court. This can be six months or longer - or never. If a child remains in foster care and ages out, the original birth certificate never sealed. In fact, it is the relinquished person's only legal birth certificate, and always has been.

How does any of this point to a "promise of anonymity" to the birth parents? It does not.

“I CURSE NO MAN”

Since: Jul 10

NOR SEEK REVENGE

#51 Jul 11, 2010
I am looking for Sir Spud...has anyone seen him? He is wasting my time thinking I would come back just to play his little games with him.
AZEL 78

Pinetops, NC

#52 Dec 4, 2010
AZEL MANNING wrote:
I am looking for Sir Spud...has anyone seen him? He is wasting my time thinking I would come back just to play his little games with him.
SIR SPUD HAS ARRIVED ALAN S SHOLE/NATASFONOS/STUPID LIBTARDS. YES THE REAL AZEL MANNIN DID GET REVENGE FOR THE REAL DAMAGE DONE TO HIM WITHOUT PUTTING A FINGER ON THE PEOPLE.
HE PUT CURSES ON THEM AND THEY DIED ALAN. SIR SPUD.

“I CURSE NO MAN”

Since: Jul 10

NOR SEEK REVENGE

#53 Mar 23, 2011
WHY DO YOU BLASPHEME MY GOOD NAME? I HAVE MORE POWER DEAD THAN I EVER DID WHEN I LIVED. YOU ARE NOT FIT TO WEAR MY NAME, LARRY. YOU ARE INSANe.
AZEL 78 wrote:
<quoted text> SIR SPUD HAS ARRIVED ALAN S SHOLE/NATASFONOS/STUPID LIBTARDS. YES THE REAL AZEL MANNIN DID GET REVENGE FOR THE REAL DAMAGE DONE TO HIM WITHOUT PUTTING A FINGER ON THE PEOPLE.
HE PUT CURSES ON THEM AND THEY DIED ALAN. SIR SPUD.

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