All DNA Traces Back to Original African Black Man and Woman

Jun 19, 2009 | Posted by: Inisa Love | Full story: www.cameraontheroad.com

The practice of using DNA in genealogy was started in 2000 by Family Tree DNA, a Texas-based group that is affiliated with the University of Arizona, where all its tests are performed.

It now houses the largest database of DNA in the country, with more than 100,000 records…Tests can place a person’s genetics into one of several ancient migrations of humans from Africa.

According to the National Geographic Web site, scientists call the common male ancestor “Adam” but point out that he was not literally the first male human. Instead, Adam, who lived in Africa 60,000 years ago, is the only male whose descendants survived to the present day.

“It’s well-established science that we’re all related to the same black man and woman out of Africa about 200,000 years ago,” Miller said. “I’ve had some people get angry at me for telling them that in my DNA seminars. It’s a very touchy subject.”
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Magic

San Antonio, TX

#1233 Jul 2, 2009
memarcierenee wrote:
Actually, I didn't read Magic's earlier post as being racist when he talked about cultural evolution. He said culture, not race. I took that to mean the areas of the world that are not industrialized. Big difference between that and commercialized, IMO.
Most people from non-industralized areas wouldn't be able to 'keep up' in other areas of the world. Not meaning they couldn't grasp hold of any of it because I believe they could.
However, look at so many areas of the world where killing is the norm for going against the government, for being female, being fat, getting raped. That's the culture and it's the accepted norm where they are. Most of us don't care for those practices. Those people are raised that way but it doesn't mean they're intellectually inferior but it's the only way of life they've ever known. We fear most those things we don't understand or don't agree with.
As far as having to lower the standards of testing for blacks.......... touchy subject, but I have seen it happen. When I was in college the minimal SAT scores were lowered for admission so more blacks could get into the college. I never really understood why as the blacks I was in classes with were extremely intelligent. I know some white folks who couldn't get into McDonald's if it took any brain cells.
As far as one race being inferior to another...... I don't believe that any human being is better than the next. But we do all have our differences and superior vs. inferior is mostly perception by an individual.
Bravo Yes you are correct? Now we are talking here? ha ha The lower standards were for primarily the Blacks and Hispanics, stepped up in the 80's in the public school districts in the Major cities for they were not at the level of the curiculum? However at the very same time this was exploitation by Colleges, Universities that had major sports! Money was the issue whether you were white, black, green it did not matter? At that time it was basketball and this is why there were so many grants given as well to the Blacks? It just happens to be they are Black? It is not discrimination? they used to just pass the sports guys in a crooked way but the population increased and so did the market for sports? So now it is a major issue? That is why so many Colleges and Universities are being sued right now for reverse discrimination? Michigan State for one?
Magic

San Antonio, TX

#1234 Jul 2, 2009
Money is the Power that Drives our Society to almost devastation! The whole exploitation of people in general has been motivated by making a profit? All races, all creeds, all colors, have been exploited for profit? Just look at the history of women in general all over the world were sold for a monetary profit? And man when he was purchasing had his preferences on what type he wanted right? But Man himself has been exploited by man (any man no matter what color), in all areas where he is able to turn a profit, and or gain power. This is the Way of the World! Music, Movies, Viagra,but mainly SPORTS! Look? Basketball? It just happens to be that Black Men are tall and can play basketball very well? It won't take a rocket scientist to see how this is a business? In reference to this in the 80's when the EOE had a surge of power and basketball was a focus for money making ventures in the schools, and the ad companies, major cities, and small towns? It brought revenue! Lawyers, Mgrs., even the ticket teller? It made a huge profit and then in the 90's went sky high with the Michael Jordon enterprises? eh? ha ha There you have it! Now wonder if he was white? Man would have exploited him the same way! No difference! That is why they lower the curiculem in the schools for the future? If our world had to slow down to let the rest catch up with us then SO BE IT! As long as it is non-violent without racism, without Wars, and without HATRED!Then there is no blame and there isn't a reason for all of this ANGER?
Ish tov

Morgantown, WV

#1235 Jul 2, 2009
Lower scores by blacks and "hispanics"... I would suggest that the factors responsible are SOCIAL, not CULTURAL. Mexicans, for example, come from a background of being peons in the essentially feudal Mexican system set up by the Spanish, in which they often receive only 2-3 years of education, and were never led to believe that education was a way to success.

Black Americans... well, must I point out the history of slavery and Jim Crow? In the post-Reconstruction era, KKK terrorists singled out the SCHOOLTEACHERS (white or black) teaching black people for extermination. The system for a long time was set up so that even with an education a black person could not get a decent job, the only exception being a minister, doctor or dentist serving only black people.

These are SOCIAL factors. The poor schools in poor neighborhoods are also social. They are caused BY THOSE IN POWER; they do not come out of the CULTURE of the oppressed people involved.

This is why I object to Magic's rap about culture.
Magic

San Antonio, TX

#1236 Jul 2, 2009
When a Man wants a woman for his Pleasure he has his preferences? Even in his Fantasies? eh? ha ha We all know of Kings having 145 wives? Solomon for instance? All races, and religions as well? ha ha He was a frolicking chap eh? But that is how he kept the peace in his lands by marrying the daughters of the other KINGS? haha, sorry can't stop laughing? What a guy! However he did not discriminate in his women? And most men are the same in that way? Why is it then we have such a problem with race? Because of Man! Not women? Women never ran this world into a muck! Man did! Man wanted a woman he took her no matter what she was! Domination, Dominion, Man has his WAYS! And they're not pretty? But we must push forward and realize this and stop blaming WHITEY!, Blackie, Chinese, whoever! It is MAN!

Since: Apr 07

Austin

#1237 Jul 2, 2009
wow, didn't we already know this?

“Mine”

Since: Mar 08

Mountain View, AR

#1238 Jul 2, 2009
Ish tov wrote:
Lower scores by blacks and "hispanics"... I would suggest that the factors responsible are SOCIAL, not CULTURAL. Mexicans, for example, come from a background of being peons in the essentially feudal Mexican system set up by the Spanish, in which they often receive only 2-3 years of education, and were never led to believe that education was a way to success.
Black Americans... well, must I point out the history of slavery and Jim Crow? In the post-Reconstruction era, KKK terrorists singled out the SCHOOLTEACHERS (white or black) teaching black people for extermination. The system for a long time was set up so that even with an education a black person could not get a decent job, the only exception being a minister, doctor or dentist serving only black people.
These are SOCIAL factors. The poor schools in poor neighborhoods are also social. They are caused BY THOSE IN POWER; they do not come out of the CULTURE of the oppressed people involved.
This is why I object to Magic's rap about culture.
Ok, but don't you think that 'our' social prejudices take place due to 'cultural' differences that we don't understand? I know that I look at things from different cultures and think 'OMG, how weird' or whichever word comes to mind. I don't think that the people are inferior to me but they live a different lifestyle.

I must be missing something because I sure haven't seen any racism. I'm originally from Georgia and if you wanna talk racism, I can probably do that all night. It's still pretty bad down there. From both sides.
Magic

Sharpsburg, GA

#1239 Jul 2, 2009
Every culture is different? We share one common denominator and that is we are human beings, hopefully we try to get along and treat others with respect as a human? But it is apparent that there are more cases of abuse in these situations, as well as abusive parenthood as well? Recently we have all read about the passing of Michael Jackson, His father for instance was a very extremely abusive man to his children? And yet MJ prospered in his career? Does that make it okay that he was abused? No way! When we as humans decide to try and find a common denominator a common goal to try and agree on something rather than find something to have a conflict over? Unless they are LOOKING FOR TROUBLE? We all agree that we are fed up with racism? And we agree that we are fed up with people taking advantage of the reparations that our government gives? We are fed up with violence, and tyranny, basically a bunch of bullies! So can we agree on this? That we all want PEACE, a good Home, a Free Country, and Good Jobs?
Magic

Sharpsburg, GA

#1240 Jul 2, 2009
Ish tov wrote:
Lower scores by blacks and "hispanics"... I would suggest that the factors responsible are SOCIAL, not CULTURAL. Mexicans, for example, come from a background of being peons in the essentially feudal Mexican system set up by the Spanish, in which they often receive only 2-3 years of education, and were never led to believe that education was a way to success.
Black Americans... well, must I point out the history of slavery and Jim Crow? In the post-Reconstruction era, KKK terrorists singled out the SCHOOLTEACHERS (white or black) teaching black people for extermination. The system for a long time was set up so that even with an education a black person could not get a decent job, the only exception being a minister, doctor or dentist serving only black people.
These are SOCIAL factors. The poor schools in poor neighborhoods are also social. They are caused BY THOSE IN POWER; they do not come out of the CULTURE of the oppressed people involved.
This is why I object to Magic's rap about culture.
How dare you call Mexicans peons? Everyone is a peon that is not a member of the top 5000 thousand families! And you above all with your condemning comments I would rather be a peon than a self rightious bias person like you, that condemns everyone for their beliefs and you want everyone to adopt yours? Come on? ARe you serious? Go take a Dirt Nap!You are the most negative person on here! There is hope for those that wish to find the time to comprehend the meanings of others? Compromise is how our country was built! The USA, you know the Yanks as you put it? And we compromise all the time I am proud of my people here as well as you should be of yours? But not to the point of a Sword!
Magic

Sharpsburg, GA

#1241 Jul 2, 2009
Spain being one of the most educated in Europe at one time, had supurb education and carried it to America, with Chris Columbus remember? ha ha Ish Tov and his theories? They carried it to Mexico as well and certainly I think the Mexican People will laugh when they read his blog? They are home schooled for their needs to fit their culture? They have made it for centuries without any help to feed their people on Pesos? ha ha So what does that say for the rest of the world? Yes they haven't got the advanced technology everywhere yet but they soon will and I bet the fact they are hard working and religious, and home bodies, will set a fine example for this world and I am proud to be their neighbor!I will be that Ishy has not ever been to Mexico ever? hmmm?

“If I lead will you follow?”

Since: May 07

Clarksville TN

#1242 Jul 2, 2009
Ish tov wrote:
I simply object to the notion of superiority and inferiority when it comes to culture.
Many of you think that industrialization and urbanization produces "superior" cultures... and that those unadapted to such conditions are "inferior".
I will assert that I would rather live among the non-urban Plains "Indians" than in a USA city in the 1800's... I could never see the Lakota or Cheyenne as "inferior" to the "civilized" people of the cities and slave plantations.
TESTS are not a good measure of success in college. I taught college courses, and what I observed is that many of the affluent whites were lazy asses who had their frats steal the exams so they would all pass...while the Affirmative Actions students (mostly black and Mexican, but including a few Armenians and other groups) busted their butts, participated in class, talked to me after class, showed up for pre-arranged study sessions, etc.
I'll take a class full of AA students ANY DAY to the spoiled arrogant mis-behaving rich brats who were mostly white.
Well everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but what I am about to say will prove that you are making an ill informed judgment on cultural relativism, and you have a limited view of culture to begin with.
I would assert that when you say you would rather live with plains Indians you did not mean as a woman, traded by your father for a horse, or a blanket. Nor did you man as an Arapaho or Cheyenne captive of the Sioux. And of course you probably never considered the fact that you’re dirty but would frequently be crawling with lice, you would be suffering from multiple infections and injuries, and when you got to old or injured to carry your load you would be left behind when a camp moved on.
As Far as your Classroom Experience. Now their you go falling back on race, I will bet, just as you probably did not have an example of Trailer Park Culture (Merit level: Low) in your class, nor did you have an example of thug Ghetto Culture or Barrio Fronchi (Merit Levels: Low). You actually had, regardless of race, a fairly homogenous culture in your classroom. I will even venture to say that your rich white lazy asses more typified "Thug" Culture, in manner and form, than your black students.
Now let me guess You teach either : History, Sociology, or even worse, Cultural Studies. Maybe English Literature. But please don’t tell me you are actually in a hard Science, I will have lost all hope in the state of Higher Education in America, and send my children to Korea for College.
And you have pretty much established that for you, race and culture are inseparable, which is the depth of ignorance. Content of Character, not Color of skin.

“If I lead will you follow?”

Since: May 07

Clarksville TN

#1243 Jul 2, 2009
Ish tov wrote:
Lower scores by blacks and "hispanics"... I would suggest that the factors responsible are SOCIAL, not CULTURAL. Mexicans, for example, come from a background of being peons in the essentially feudal Mexican system set up by the Spanish, in which they often receive only 2-3 years of education, and were never led to believe that education was a way to success.
Black Americans... well, must I point out the history of slavery and Jim Crow? In the post-Reconstruction era, KKK terrorists singled out the SCHOOLTEACHERS (white or black) teaching black people for extermination. The system for a long time was set up so that even with an education a black person could not get a decent job, the only exception being a minister, doctor or dentist serving only black people.
These are SOCIAL factors. The poor schools in poor neighborhoods are also social. They are caused BY THOSE IN POWER; they do not come out of the CULTURE of the oppressed people involved.
This is why I object to Magic's rap about culture.
You teach people? Your a blithering idiot!
Magic

Sharpsburg, GA

#1244 Jul 2, 2009
Power_1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but what I am about to say will prove that you are making an ill informed judgment on cultural relativism, and you have a limited view of culture to begin with.
I would assert that when you say you would rather live with plains Indians you did not mean as a woman, traded by your father for a horse, or a blanket. Nor did you man as an Arapaho or Cheyenne captive of the Sioux. And of course you probably never considered the fact that you’re dirty but would frequently be crawling with lice, you would be suffering from multiple infections and injuries, and when you got to old or injured to carry your load you would be left behind when a camp moved on.
As Far as your Classroom Experience. Now their you go falling back on race, I will bet, just as you probably did not have an example of Trailer Park Culture (Merit level: Low) in your class, nor did you have an example of thug Ghetto Culture or Barrio Fronchi (Merit Levels: Low). You actually had, regardless of race, a fairly homogenous culture in your classroom. I will even venture to say that your rich white lazy asses more typified "Thug" Culture, in manner and form, than your black students.
Now let me guess You teach either : History, Sociology, or even worse, Cultural Studies. Maybe English Literature. But please don’t tell me you are actually in a hard Science, I will have lost all hope in the state of Higher Education in America, and send my children to Korea for College.
And you have pretty much established that for you, race and culture are inseparable, which is the depth of ignorance. Content of Character, not Color of skin.
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THIS BLOG! It pleases me and I am sure many others as well that are Native to find someone who really has an insight to our people and culture and knows how hard we had it as well! You should be a teacher if you are not one already? The contents of your blog is very astute, and certainly with wisdom? Yes I agree I will join you in sending my children as well to Korea if this ignoramous is a teacher? Opinions are wonderful, but the ego, and the prejudice over shadows the subjects, and the issues become dissolved in the process? They are tainted with fantasies and the unwillingness of most to stand corrected or receive knowledge from others is the real problem in our educational systems. It is obvious from these blogs, with all the arguments? Hard headed people and unwilling to change, for they don't want to look like they are stupid? ha ha I admit being wrong all the time about certain things? But relish the fact that I can learn the right way sooner than later with an open mind.

“If I lead will you follow?”

Since: May 07

Clarksville TN

#1250 Jul 3, 2009
Magic wrote:
<quoted text>
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THIS BLOG! It pleases me and I am sure many others as well that are Native to find someone who really has an insight to our people and culture and knows how hard we had it as well! You should be a teacher if you are not one already? The contents of your blog is very astute, and certainly with wisdom? Yes I agree I will join you in sending my children as well to Korea if this ignoramous is a teacher? Opinions are wonderful, but the ego, and the prejudice over shadows the subjects, and the issues become dissolved in the process? They are tainted with fantasies and the unwillingness of most to stand corrected or receive knowledge from others is the real problem in our educational systems. It is obvious from these blogs, with all the arguments? Hard headed people and unwilling to change, for they don't want to look like they are stupid? ha ha I admit being wrong all the time about certain things? But relish the fact that I can learn the right way sooner than later with an open mind.
Stroking that a little hard aren't we Brainiac.
Magic

United States

#1252 Jul 3, 2009
Power_1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Stroking that a little hard aren't we Brainiac.
You are funny? No not really, it is really surprising to me how many people have watched these old westerns, and saw the onesided situation with the so-called Cowboy and Indians? And yet with all the info out there today? You would be surprised they don't know what a Cheyenne is or a Souix? and that Souix is the whiteman name "meaning the enemy" The Souix is my tribe? ha ha "Lakota", we have our history with the brainwashing, the myths, and certainly some are very prejudice, others gave up and don't care,(that is pathetic) and the rest well, we adapt and IMPOVISE! ha ha
Ish tov

Morgantown, WV

#1253 Jul 3, 2009
Power 1... you're a dittohead and racist.

Turn off rightwing talk radio and read a real book, please.
Ish tov

Morgantown, WV

#1254 Jul 3, 2009
Magic.. you are obviously hysterical.

Yes, under the Spanish-installed system, most Mexicans are peons. Many people in other countries are too? So what is your point?

You are babbling hysterically, Yank.
Trilby

Summerville, SC

#1255 Jul 3, 2009
Anyone who thinks Whites are gonna lose any sleep over that, is truly an idiot of the highest degree.
Ish tov

Buckhannon, WV

#1256 Jul 3, 2009
Power 1 makes the usual accusations against other cultures based on their past behavior. Yet at the same time, how was "white America" behaving? LOL Just as badly.

People, for example, criticize the Aztecs for brutality. Yet when Cortés arrived in México, Europe was deep in the Inquisition! LOL

Natives traded SLAVES? Was that your criticism? LOL I'm so glad the USA didn't do that.

In fact, the studies I'm thinking of related to HEALTH. Plains Indians had better health than poor white or blacks in the USA at the same time.

I think it is obvious why this is true.

Native societies in what is now the USA were far less violent, per capita, overall, than those of Europe. But they were also healthier, generally.
Ish tov

Buckhannon, WV

#1258 Jul 3, 2009
LOL... so what do the Tocharians have to do with anything in this discussion? You moron, you got that from STORMFRONT and think it means something.

The Aryan Tocharians lived in northwestern China, yep. So what? Aryans were all over Central Asia.

What does this have to do with the origin of humans in AFRICA which was LONG before that time? Nothing.

WVcoalminers' slopeheaded DNA traces right back to a rodent.

“If I lead will you follow?”

Since: May 07

Clarksville TN

#1260 Jul 4, 2009
Magic wrote:
<quoted text>
You are funny? No not really, it is really surprising to me how many people have watched these old westerns, and saw the onesided situation with the so-called Cowboy and Indians? And yet with all the info out there today? You would be surprised they don't know what a Cheyenne is or a Souix? and that Souix is the whiteman name "meaning the enemy" The Souix is my tribe? ha ha "Lakota", we have our history with the brainwashing, the myths, and certainly some are very prejudice, others gave up and don't care,(that is pathetic) and the rest well, we adapt and IMPOVISE! ha ha
No actually, Souix is the Cheyenne name for enemy. Because no matter who you are dealing with, their name themselves was invariably "People" or "uman" while their name for others was usually something along the line of 'Enemy" "Barbarian", "Eaters of dirt/dung/babies" It is a universal commonality.

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