Anybody have reviews about Sheble Avi...
Butch

Ventura, CA

#21 Apr 17, 2012
Has anyone gotten glider training at Sheble? I'm about to schedule a glider add-on rating there and wonder what their glider operation is like.
Annonomius

United States

#22 Jul 10, 2013
Terrible, unprofessional, unorganized. Over worked instructors with little patience and bad mouths. Listened to my instructor bitch to fellow instructors in front of me.. The client.. About how tired and over worked he was. Has to listen to the office lady sort out family drama while sitting in ground school. I cannot recommend this place. What a disaster.
Joe

Bellflower, CA

#23 Jul 17, 2013
Annonomius wrote:
Terrible, unprofessional, unorganized. Over worked instructors with little patience and bad mouths. Listened to my instructor bitch to fellow instructors in front of me.. The client.. About how tired and over worked he was. Has to listen to the office lady sort out family drama while sitting in ground school. I cannot recommend this place. What a disaster.
So did you pass? And what training did you take? Is it worth doing my commercial there?
Johan

Willemstad, Curacao

#24 Jul 27, 2013
NEVER NEVER GO TO SHEBLE! ONLY IF YOU WANT LOSE YOUR MONEY!!!!
Johan

Willemstad, Curacao

#25 Jul 27, 2013
You are right !!! They justbwant your money and dont know what they are doing... I left because they were doing drugs and alcohol. Never go there.
CFI

Lake Havasu City, AZ

#26 Sep 5, 2013
so people who want to bad mouth shebles dont know what they are talking about I work there and its the fastest and best way to get your licences
John Delaware

Columbus, OH

#27 Oct 8, 2013
Don't waste your time.
Sheble's is a place that will not prepare you as a pilot. It wiill make you fly as less as possible (call them- it's 3000dls for commercial, or 3500 for Multi Engine, for 6 hours each approx. plus the checkride price $500-) and they'll throw you directly into the checkride -failure rates for them are really high!
I would recommend, go for another school in Arizona if you are looking for good weather. A school which gives you a detailed price of the hours, and that wants you to pass the checkride!
Don't go for Shebles!
Anonymous

El Mirage, AZ

#28 Nov 16, 2013
I went to Sheble roughly a month ago and I have to say I have never had a worse experience in my aviation career. The first day that I was there the instructor I had suggested that we falsify my log book and then several days later, upon requesting a refund I was told the owners soon to be ex-wife probably took the money (by the owner) that I paid to the school in advance so I would not be receiving a refund.
Anonymous

El Mirage, AZ

#29 Nov 16, 2013
CFI wrote:
so people who want to bad mouth shebles dont know what they are talking about I work there and its the fastest and best way to get your licences
I'm talking about breaking the law and being unprofessional in general. If you are going to take thousands of dollars in tuition it would be nice to be treated in a professional manner.
Anonymous

El Mirage, AZ

#30 Nov 17, 2013
Ric

Henderson, NV

#31 Nov 23, 2013
I went to Sheble's in 2005 for my commercial Multi and busted a chek ride because I did not receive adequate training and the overall quality of the instruction was very poor.
I stayed an extra week to do my CFI and busted it during the oral from the late and very dubious Clint Hemsley. To add insult to injury I was charged nearl $6,000 and left with nothing in hand.
The CFI course did ot meet FAA standards and when After I filed a complaint with the Las Vegas FSDO,
about Clint Hemsley, I received a call from Val Sheble threatening me because she claimed I was trying to put her out of business.
With the quality of training you receive at Sheble's it is a wonder they are still in business.
They are notorious for hiring low time inexperienced flight instructors, usually with very low time and marginal skills. One instructor I recall was a Canadian with the personality of a snake, another named Luis Magana was no better.
And they retained on staff several examiners who were basically paid to give you your new ratings regardless of your skill levels.
That is one of the things that got them moved from Kingman and Eddie Lane and Clint Hemsley got their DPE certifications revoked.
Anonymous

El Mirage, AZ

#32 Nov 27, 2013
Ric wrote:
I went to Sheble's in 2005 for my commercial Multi and busted a chek ride because I did not receive adequate training and the overall quality of the instruction was very poor.
I stayed an extra week to do my CFI and busted it during the oral from the late and very dubious Clint Hemsley. To add insult to injury I was charged nearl $6,000 and left with nothing in hand.
The CFI course did ot meet FAA standards and when After I filed a complaint with the Las Vegas FSDO,
about Clint Hemsley, I received a call from Val Sheble threatening me because she claimed I was trying to put her out of business.
With the quality of training you receive at Sheble's it is a wonder they are still in business.
They are notorious for hiring low time inexperienced flight instructors, usually with very low time and marginal skills. One instructor I recall was a Canadian with the personality of a snake, another named Luis Magana was no better.
And they retained on staff several examiners who were basically paid to give you your new ratings regardless of your skill levels.
That is one of the things that got them moved from Kingman and Eddie Lane and Clint Hemsley got their DPE certifications revoked.
I also received threatening phone calls. The link I posted was to a recording of one that I was given permission to record but I am scared of the staff.
Anonymous

El Mirage, AZ

#33 Nov 27, 2013
Also from what I was told Eddie Lane quit after I was there, but how can I believe anything they say?
CFI

Bullhead City, AZ

#34 Dec 1, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm talking about breaking the law and being unprofessional in general. If you are going to take thousands of dollars in tuition it would be nice to be treated in a professional manner.
I know exactly who you are CHRIS. can i would like to tell the world that if they found themselves at a flight school and you showed up to run. you have panic attacks in the airplane and lie about people because you are a bad pilot and have to blame everyone else.
anonymous

Tucson, AZ

#35 Jan 20, 2014
Any more recent experiences? I've been putting some serious consideration into attending their location in Needles, CA. I was told I would have to travel to Vegas for the checkride though, which kind of put me off. I live in Tucson, and I'm not too interested in traveling to Needles for two days, then making the trip to Vegas for a ride. I've read a lot of reviews on the place from various websites, and I seem to be coming by an awful lot of bad ones. I've read nothing on the location in Needles though, but it seems they've just recently moved here from another location. Does this place pickup and move from airport to airport on a regular basis?
Teddy

Henderson, NV

#36 Jan 21, 2014
I instructed for Shebly Aviation and I know all the Sheblies personally and I can tell everyone this. You Have to be a safe pilot and you need to study. They will give you all the instruction you need to pass the check ride but you are the one responible to study and learn the information that is needed to pass the check ride. If you are unsure about anything you need to ask the instructor so they can go over what you need. If you are a person that thinks they will show up and just get the rating, then this place is not for you. The training is fast paced and you need to be willing to spend the time there working on flying ang studing and that is it. Not to go out and hang out with anyone. If you are in a hotel, motel etc. and you are having trouble with the information you can call the instructors and they will help answer your questions after hrs. The instructors are there to help you pass your check ride and not there to take the check ride for you. So if you want to learn and get a rating at a fast pace at a good price then Shebly is a great place to go. But like I said you need to know the information yourself. After all you will be in the airplane alone or with passengers. The instructors will not be there to bail you out. So know what you need to know before you get there. That is the reason for passing the written before you get there also. They will make sure you go over everything you need to go over to pass the check ride. Some people should not be more than a private pilot and do not like to hear they are less of a pilot than they are. That is the reason for the negative response above. Get there on time, Have all the information with you that you need and bring your brains and your A GAME Too. Be ready to get the rating and know everything you need to know to get the rating before you get there. The more you know the easier it will be for you to get the rating. Thanks To Joe Sr. & Joe Jr. I became the pilot I always wanted to be and Shebly was the path from A to B to C etc. Thank's Shebly
Ron

San Leandro, CA

#37 Mar 15, 2014
It's 2014 and Sheble's is now operating out of Needles,Ca. I was ther recently and it was a disaster....false log book endorsements, little real ground school, minimum flying...I was signed off to take my Test after two flights (with different instructors) and the quality of flight training was a joke. There was a previous post by a fellow pilot who described the same set up. I asked some local operators about Sheble's and it turns out they have a lot of enemies. (KVGT)
Mark

Los Angeles, CA

#38 Mar 28, 2014
Who are they using for examiner, since the owners had their ticket revoked?
Josh

Europe

#39 May 10, 2014
Review - Sheble Instrument Training Course (or 10 Days in a Crazy House)

My wife and I signed up for Sheble’s 10-11 day instrument training course in early March for the purpose of acquiring our ratings in mid-April 2014. Our work schedules kept us on a hard departure date so our initial communications with Sheble addressed the need to checkride by a certain day. We were assured on schedule completion would not be a problem.

What follows is a day by day breakdown of our appallingly negative experience at Sheble Aviation. If you’re into quick and dirty here it is:

• An instructor that falls asleep on cross-country flights as readily as on a traffic filled approach at the North Las Vegas Airport
• Another instructor that took my wife on a 4.9 hour night cross-country in a C-172 with a published fuel endurance of 4.75 hours
• A ‘school’ with 6 instrument students, 2 CFII, 1.5 airplanes (two planes with one lacking the requisite equipment for instrument training) and a complete absence of organization
• An owner whose rare presence was highlighted by drinking Coors Light while having his mechanic install an engine in his race car while one of the 1.5 airplanes was down.

If you’re interested in the whole experience let me know and I'll email you the entire thing.

We have since communicated our experience with the scheduler and asked for a reasonable portion of our tuition to be refunded. She expressed concern about the illegally long flight and the sleepy instructor (a fact that was known by the Sheble scheduler) and the 10.2 hours my wife and I were missing from the stated 40. I was promised a return call that never materialized. In calling back several times I actually reached the elusive ‘Jo-Jo’ Sheble who told me, and I quote,“…I’m not up to speed on this, and nor do I need to be up to speed.” That very clearly says he doesn’t care about his poorly/dangerously/illegally/u nethically run business. Up to now, I have not received a follow up call from the outfit.

If you’re considering Sheble Aviation for any kind of flight training consider very seriously your other options.
Josh

Europe

#40 May 10, 2014
Here's the whole review in parts:

My wife and I signed up for Sheble’s 10-11 day instrument training course in early March for the purpose of acquiring our ratings in mid-April 2014. Our work schedules kept us on a hard departure date so our initial communications with Sheble addressed the need to checkride by a certain day. We were assured on schedule completion would not be a problem.
What follows is a day by day breakdown of our appallingly negative experience at Sheble Aviation. If you’re into quick and dirty here it is:
• An instructor that falls asleep on cross-country flights as readily as on a traffic filled approach at the North Las Vegas Airport
• Another instructor that took my wife on a 4.9 hour night cross-country in a C-172 with a published fuel endurance of 4.75 hours
• A ‘school’ with 6 instrument students, 2 CFII, 1.5 airplanes (two planes with one lacking the requisite equipment for instrument training) and a complete absence of organization
• An owner whose rare presence was highlighted by drinking Coors Light while having his mechanic install an engine in his race car while one of the 1.5 airplanes was down.
If you’re interested in the whole experience please read on.
The first day consisted of signing the requisite paperwork, paying for the course and ground school. Ground school was fairly well-organized and provided a great deal of information backed up by the training packet provided on the Sheble website. What we were not provided was a syllabus or overall plan for the course. I’ll come back to this fact repeatedly as the theme of our experience was absence of organization.
I should mention at this point if you’re expecting a typical classroom, don’t. The airport has been taken over by Sheble Aviation and most of the buildings (trailers) on site belong to the school. The main building is a pre-fab home with a front desk, a simulator (more on that later) room, kitchen and a couple empty bedrooms. The ground school was held in an aged trailer adjacent to the main building and required the students gather up a mish-mash of tables and chairs. Also littered about the airport are numerous cannibalized airplanes some of which, I was told, are in the boneyard from being landed gear up. Oops.
My day two was spent studying in the office studying followed by 1.5 hours of flight training. The initial instrument flight was challenging and I was spent after bouncing around in the desert heat chasing a needle and trying to read an approach plate.
Day three and four were spent on the simulator and studying the provided materials. I also grabbed an Oral Exam Prep guide off the shelf and began studying it as well. As there were two CFII for 5-6 students, I ended up teaching myself how to use the sim and flew on my own the first couple approaches. Day four I received more formal/supervised training. It should also be said that the “state of the art ATC-710 simulator” may have been state of the art in 1999 but certainly isn’t so in this millennia. It was awkwardly slow to get set up and froze up a few times. One instructor explained the software hadn’t been upgraded in quite a while.

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