Honduras rejects OAS appeal to restore president

People against ousted Honduras President Manuel Zelaya gather outside of the presidential residence in support of the interim government in Tegucigalpa, Friday July 3, 2009. Full Story
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“It's 420 here.”

Since: Jun 07

cold comfort farm

#1 Jul 3, 2009
What is so difficult to understand regarding the rule of law?

“Green card?”

Since: Jan 08

Tepic, Nayarit, Mexico

#2 Jul 3, 2009
Note the people upset about it, Chavez, Fidel, Obama.

“It's about the American People”

Since: Jun 07

Flushing, NY

#5 Jul 3, 2009
The African Islamic Dictator Barack Obama rushed to join his friend the dictator Chavez of Venezuela and Ahmadinajad and other brutal fascistic Marxist totalitarian regimes in their fight against Honduras that was able to get rid of dictator that was Chavez friend.
Even Hillary that was neglected and disregarded by axis of evil of North Korea and Iran that could not care less about her shrill demands was able to show her might against the tiny and poor Honduras.
Good for the delusional and clueless Hillary to go firmly after Honduras demanding bringing back to power the dictator Zelaya and against the isolated Jews in Israel blaming them for building houses for their new generation in Jerusalem.

Since: Jun 08

Q.C.

#6 Jul 4, 2009
Wasn't the nicest way of getting it done, but someone had to put the foot down to avoid another Chavez or Morales dictator.
Michelle

Los Angeles, CA

#7 Jul 4, 2009
This is what was on the ballot on Sunday 28th of June which got the oligarchs in Honduras in a panic:

"Do you think that the November 2009 general elections should include a fourth ballot box in order to make a decision about the creation of a National Constitutional Assembly that would approve a new Constitution?" Yes or No.
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blo...

If the majority had voted in favor of this, they could've had the opportunity in November 2009 to vote in favor or against "the creation of a National Constitutional Assembly that would approve a new Constitution"

BTW that same day on November 2009 they would have been also voting for a new president. Zelaya is not one of the candidates because it is not allowed in the Constitution for him to seek a second term.

But you keep believing all the lies about how on last Sunday he was going to become a dictator and how the military and Micheletti preserved democracy.
Michelle

Los Angeles, CA

#8 Jul 4, 2009
Rogerg wrote:
Note the people upset about it, Chavez, Fidel, Obama.
You forgot to mention the leaders of the rest of the world. Name me one president that says supports the new government.
Michelle

Los Angeles, CA

#9 Jul 4, 2009
Peron wrote:
Wasn't the nicest way of getting it done, but someone had to put the foot down to avoid another Chavez or Morales dictator.
The United States State Department will surely be interested on the information you have which leads you to characterize Chavez and Morales as dictators.
The State Department recognizes that these two are democratically elected leaders.

On February 2009 referendum in Venezuela:
State Department spokesperson Gordon Duguid stated that, "For the most part this was a process that was fully consistent with democratic process."

On January 2009 on Bolivia's voter approved new constitution:
The day after the vote, Wood [from the State Dept.] congratulated the Bolivian people on the referendum and stated, "We look forward to working with the Bolivian Government in ways we can to further democracy ..." When asked if he believed the referendum furthers democracy, he replied, "A free, fair, you know, democratic process certainly does contribute positively."
http://www.counterpunch.com/carlsen02192009.h...

Apparently, Presidents Chavez and Morales have been able to fool the US State Dept. in thinking democracy is alive and well in their respective countries, but they didn't fool you did they?

Since: Jun 08

Q.C.

#10 Jul 4, 2009
Michelle wrote:
<quoted text>
The United States State Department will surely be interested on the information you have which leads you to characterize Chavez and Morales as dictators.
...Presidents Chavez and Morales have been able to fool the US State Dept. in thinking democracy is alive and well in their respective countries, but they didn't fool you did they?
I'm not too surprised that the US State Dept. defends and enables Chavez and Morales and their likes. I think one reason for that is named Obama and his "change", which you may keep for yourselves.
Michelle

Los Angeles, CA

#11 Jul 4, 2009
Peron wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not too surprised that the US State Dept. defends and enables Chavez and Morales and their likes. I think one reason for that is named Obama and his "change", which you may keep for yourselves.
And your proof that Chavez and Morales are dictators?

My proof that they are not is that they have been democratically elected by their populace. Elections which other countries have recognized as democratic.

Since: Jun 08

Q.C.

#12 Jul 4, 2009
My proof is the actual situations in their countries.

I don't care whatever the Obama abomination State Dept. can burp up. I trust them as little as I trust their new "friends" in latin america.

Long live the cause for freedom. To hell with socialism and its enablers. Amen.

“Green card?”

Since: Jan 08

Tepic, Nayarit, Mexico

#13 Jul 4, 2009
Peron wrote:
My proof is the actual situations in their countries.
I don't care whatever the Obama abomination State Dept. can burp up. I trust them as little as I trust their new "friends" in latin america.
Long live the cause for freedom. To hell with socialism and its enablers. Amen.
Amen!

“Did U plug the damn hole yet?”

Since: Jan 08

Richardson, TX

#15 Jul 4, 2009
Michelle wrote:
<quoted text>
And your proof that Chavez and Morales are dictators?
Hugo Chavez appears to be where Hitler was in 1933.

He's still the legally elected elected president.

But Chavez has been shutting down newspapers and TV stations who refuse to say flattering things about him.

And he ammended the Venezulian constitution to allow him to remain in office for a second term.

I think pretty soon he will drop all pretense and just declare himself president for life.

“Green card?”

Since: Jan 08

Tepic, Nayarit, Mexico

#16 Jul 4, 2009
NEWS FLASH
"TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras - As the Organization of American States prepared to meet Saturday to consider suspending Honduras's membership in the group, the country's post-coup government tried to outflank the regional body by quitting first."
If Honduras keeps this up, I'm moving there!
Michelle

Los Angeles, CA

#17 Jul 4, 2009
Peron wrote:
My proof is the actual situations in their countries.
I don't care whatever the Obama abomination State Dept. can burp up. I trust them as little as I trust their new "friends" in latin america.
Long live the cause for freedom. To hell with socialism and its enablers. Amen.
In other words you have no proof.
Michelle

Los Angeles, CA

#18 Jul 4, 2009
Peron wrote:
My proof is the actual situations in their countries.
I don't care whatever the Obama abomination State Dept. can burp up. I trust them as little as I trust their new "friends" in latin america.
Long live the cause for freedom. To hell with socialism and its enablers. Amen.
The US is not the only country that recognizes their legit governments. I cannot think of a single country where Chavez and Morales are not accepted as the democratically elected leaders of their respective countries, can you?

“Did U plug the damn hole yet?”

Since: Jan 08

Richardson, TX

#19 Jul 4, 2009
Michelle wrote:
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In other words you have no proof.
Chavez is a strongman who would like to be a dictator.

He has not yet declared himself president for life but he's working on it.

Zelaya was trying to follow in Chavez's footsteps by extending his term in office past what the Honduran constitution authorized but came up a little short.
Roberto Zorro

United States

#20 Jul 4, 2009
Michelle wrote:
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The US is not the only country that recognizes their legit governments. I cannot think of a single country where Chavez and Morales are not accepted as the democratically elected leaders of their respective countries, can you?
Get a clue. Presidents of Nations are not chosen by international committees or by other nations. Honduras has already spoken and Zelaya has been rejected. In 4 more months the PEOPLE of Honduras will go the polls (Not Chalvez,Obama, or the UN) to decide who they want for President for the next 4 YEARS.
Michelle

Los Angeles, CA

#21 Jul 4, 2009
Mac-7 wrote:
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Hugo Chavez appears to be where Hitler was in 1933.
He's still the legally elected elected president.
But Chavez has been shutting down newspapers and TV stations who refuse to say flattering things about him.
And he ammended the Venezulian constitution to allow him to remain in office for a second term.
I think pretty soon he will drop all pretense and just declare himself president for life.
About your lament of the shutting down of newspapers “who refuse to say flattering things about him”

El Universal.[5] This is not only a stridently opposition newspaper, it has also, for the years during which it is cited, repeatedly fabricated news stories. For example, in a typical fabrication of the type deployed to libel government officials, El Universal reported that then Interior Minister Jesse Chacón had purchased a painting for $140,000.[6] This turned out to be completely false. There are many examples of fabrications in El Universal, as well as other opposition sources cited by the report.[7]

[7] A few more examples: On August 4, 2004, El Universal ran a story on their front page that a recent poll showed the Yes vote against Chávez was winning and that there was "evidence that indicates the exit of Hugo Chávez as president." The poll turned out to be non-existent. Another opposition newspaper cited by HRW, El Nacional, has also fabricated stories in attempts to discredit the government. On January 12, 2003, El Nacional reported that an oil worker had been burned to death in an accident at El Palito oil refinery. On the day that the article ran, the reportedly "dead" worker appeared on television in good health. The HRW report also frequently cites the opposition group Súmate; Súmate maintained, on the basis of faked exit polls (for which it helped gather data), that the 2004 recall referendum was actually stolen by a fantastic electronic fraud. See "Polling and the Ballot in Venezuela www.cepr.net/documents/presentations/venezuel... . The opposition media in general promoted this bizarre conspiracy theory.(Chávez won the referendum, which was certified by international observers including the OAS and the Carter Center, by a margin of 58-41 percent).
http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2008/12/...
Michelle

Los Angeles, CA

#22 Jul 4, 2009
Mac-7 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hugo Chavez appears to be where Hitler was in 1933.
He's still the legally elected elected president.
But Chavez has been shutting down newspapers and TV stations who refuse to say flattering things about him.
And he ammended the Venezulian constitution to allow him to remain in office for a second term.
I think pretty soon he will drop all pretense and just declare himself president for life.
The TV station not getting its license renewed. First a comparison with the US:

"In the 2004 U.S. Presidential election, the Sinclair Broadcast Group of Maryland, owner of the largest chain of television stations in the U.S., planned to show a documentary that accused candidate John Kerry of betraying American prisoners during the Vietnam War. The company ordered its 62 stations to show the film during prime-time hours just two weeks before the election. Nineteen Democratic senators sent a letter to the U.S. F.C.C. http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200410/101504.h... calling for an investigation into this proposed intervention by Sinclair in the campaign, and some made public statements that Sinclair's broadcast license could be in jeopardy if it carried through with its plans. As a result of this pressure, Sinclair backed down and did not broadcast the film.

This example is directly relevant to the HRW report on Venezuela, because it shows that, in order to have a broadcast license in the United States and other democratic countries, the licensee is expected to follow certain rules and not to become a major political actor, e.g. by intervening in elections. As Vivanco himself has noted, "lack of renewal of the contract [broadcast license], per se, is not a free speech issue." Yet this report cites the denial of RCTV's broadcast license renewal as a simple, and indeed its primary, example of the Venezuelan government's alleged attack on free speech. It does not seem to matter to the authors that the station had participated in a military coup and other attempts to topple the government and would not receive a broadcast license in any democratic country."

http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2008/12/...
Michelle

Los Angeles, CA

#23 Jul 4, 2009
Mac-7 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hugo Chavez appears to be where Hitler was in 1933.
He's still the legally elected elected president.
But Chavez has been shutting down newspapers and TV stations who refuse to say flattering things about him.
And he ammended the Venezulian constitution to allow him to remain in office for a second term.
I think pretty soon he will drop all pretense and just declare himself president for life.
He didn't amend the Constitution the people of Venezuela did,

"Electoral officials said Chávez had won 54% of votes in favour of the amendment to the constitution."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/feb/16/v...

but you keep believing the lies that he did so unilaterally.

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