Obama may push for ban on assault wea...

Obama may push for ban on assault weapons

There are 667 comments on the The Indian Express story from Oct 17, 2012, titled Obama may push for ban on assault weapons. In it, The Indian Express reports that:

Democratic President Barack Obama and Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney engaged in a rare tussle over gun control on Tuesday, and Obama opened the door to pushing for a ban on assault weapons if he wins a second term.

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“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#517 Nov 22, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>Is driving an automobile a "right?" You can't do it till you have gotten to a certain age.

Frivolous.

If something is a "right" why is there any requirement to have obtained a certain age?
Not exactly. That certain age is not legal adult age. I got my drivers license at age 15, when I was still under my parents rule.

Ok, if you want to be specific, I should have qualified my statement with adult age.

Better control that diarrhea of the mouth, you won't be able to eat any turkey. ; )
Tray

Belden, MS

#518 Nov 22, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Is driving an automobile a "right?" You can't do it till you have gotten to a certain age.
Frivolous.
If something is a "right" why is there any requirement to have obtained a certain age?
You forgot "On a government built and owned road". I was driving on the family farm at 10. Yet another fail, try again.
Village Mystery

Huntsville, AL

#519 Nov 22, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, there was a UN resolution that authorized it as an action of the UN for humanitarian reasons.
Since you want to insist that this incident was "the" cause for Benghazi, could you illuminate for us why so many in NYC, Pennslyvania and at the Pentagon were killed on 9-11? What was the act that the US committed that was directly responsible for that?
And yet Clinton was impeached for lying about a BJ. Could it be that he acted within US law despite the wishes of Congress? It seems to me that getting US military forces killed would be an impeachable offense if it was committed illegally.
Once again, you prove yourself to be the Village Idiot.
Because people in government are not convicted of wrongs then they commited no wrong? Because people like you twist and contort to excuse and justify the unjustifiable then the facts no longer exist? The laws either?

DID YOU NOT READ THAT QUOTE FROM OBAMA? What happens in your mind when you read that and then consider Libya and THEN spew denial in response? What kind of vile shit is going on in there? It appears some kind of panic and then a vomiting out of a generally contradictory response that ignores the facts presented.

Is it a desperate need for a political identity - a team to belong to? WELL WHAT?

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#520 Nov 23, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>
How do you "know" if you are selling to an ineligable buyer? Did they fail a background check? Would it be easy to prove you knew for criminal prosecution reasons?
It is if Billie Joe Bob is purchasing it for criminal intent.
Have you got a cell phone? They don't need an RFD chip. Further, they don't need a court order at this time to search it.
Do you know the meaning of the word knowingly?

If I sell to Billy Joe Bob and it’s a legal transaction I’m not liable for what Billy uses the firearm for after the sale.

Yes, they can find out where I am at any moment using my cell phone.
toadmann

Masontown, PA

#521 Nov 23, 2012
youtube.com/watch...
Elf Rant I dont see any such Ban happening,,I vision everybody Armed in this Country

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#522 Nov 23, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you know the meaning of the word knowingly?
If I sell to Billy Joe Bob and it’s a legal transaction I’m not liable for what Billy uses the firearm for after the sale.
Yes, they can find out where I am at any moment using my cell phone.
He thinks when you sell a firearm the seller can predict the future simply because car salesmen always know everyone who one day may drive drunk.

Since: Jul 12

Washington, DC

#523 Nov 25, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
Not exactly. That certain age is not legal adult age. I got my drivers license at age 15, when I was still under my parents rule.
Ok, if you want to be specific, I should have qualified my statement with adult age.
Better control that diarrhea of the mouth, you won't be able to eat any turkey. ; )
Even with age, if you can't pass the test you are not allowed to drive on public roads.

Since: Jul 12

Washington, DC

#524 Nov 25, 2012
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> You forgot "On a government built and owned road". I was driving on the family farm at 10. Yet another fail, try again.
Yes, and as you stood in the middle or the corn field you had all the free speech you ever needed. So lets define our "rights" as what you are allowed to do on your own propery, and only your own property. To include the 2nd Ammendment.

Since: Jul 12

Washington, DC

#525 Nov 25, 2012
Village Mystery wrote:
<quoted text>
Because people in government are not convicted of wrongs then they commited no wrong? Because people like you twist and contort to excuse and justify the unjustifiable then the facts no longer exist? The laws either?
DID YOU NOT READ THAT QUOTE FROM OBAMA? What happens in your mind when you read that and then consider Libya and THEN spew denial in response? What kind of vile shit is going on in there? It appears some kind of panic and then a vomiting out of a generally contradictory response that ignores the facts presented.
Is it a desperate need for a political identity - a team to belong to? WELL WHAT?
Unless you want to admit that all of the Republican Party to include Romney and Ryan are in on it, the obvious conclusion would be that you are incorrect about the legality of the activity in question.

It has nothing to do with who I do or do not support, it has to do with recent history since Vietnam.

I would rather it have come to a vote and the Republican vote down supporting freedom and democracy after the Rainbow Revolution of Easter Europe. Or the fact that one of the reasons for Iraq was to spur democracies in the middle east. And what would it have done to Romney's claim we were not helping out the Syrians enough?

And what of the Republicans in the House that thus far have refused to impeach him?

Politicians do "wrong" all the time. Few are convicted.

Since: Jul 12

Washington, DC

#526 Nov 25, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you know the meaning of the word knowingly?
If I sell to Billy Joe Bob and it’s a legal transaction I’m not liable for what Billy uses the firearm for after the sale.
Yes, they can find out where I am at any moment using my cell phone.
Yeah, "Knowingly" is a cover word for people who do not want to know. "You are legally eligable to purchases this gun aren't you?"

BTW: On a person to person sell how long you legally required to keep the records and what information is required by the government for you to obtain?

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#527 Nov 25, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>Even with age, if you can't pass the test you are not allowed to drive on public roads.
Yet there's fatal accidents numerous times every day. There's even vehicular homicide. Imagine that.
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#528 Nov 25, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, and as you stood in the middle or the corn field you had all the free speech you ever needed. So lets define our "rights" as what you are allowed to do on your own propery, and only your own property. To include the 2nd Ammendment.
Yes and no. My right to my freedom of religion, speech, ect. ect. don't end at my property line. I can't extend my rights to the point of infringing on anothers right like coming on YOUR property and setting up a church or carrying a gun on YOUR property. There is a provision to roads BEFORE they are built and that is the public must qualify to operate a car on it however the car itself is private property and my gun inside is not an infringement on other drivers. Could you imagine outlawing reading a news paper in public? Telling someone they can't believe in God in public? Could you imagine having to get a permit to speak outside of your own property? My rights are not ALLOWED they pre-exist the U.S. government or laws. The second amendment and others are not intended for me but as a firm stance that these are rights and the government has no power over them. The declaration of a right is telling the government "hands off".

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#529 Nov 26, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, "Knowingly" is a cover word for people who do not want to know. "You are legally eligable to purchases this gun aren't you?"
BTW: On a person to person sell how long you legally required to keep the records and what information is required by the government for you to obtain?
Bullshit. Knowingly is not a cover word. I’ve sold many firearms privately. If I get a feeling I shouldn’t make the sale I won’t.

As a private individual I’m not required to keep records of who I’ve sold to. I do, but I’m not required.
bushie

Richland, MI

#530 Nov 26, 2012
NRA made 422 million off of telling people lies and working for the gun maker last year. Anything to get the peoples money. IT's WORKS

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#531 Nov 26, 2012
bushie wrote:
NRA made 422 million off of telling people lies and working for the gun maker last year. Anything to get the peoples money. IT's WORKS
Funny, the National RIFLE Association would work with gun makers. Interesting, their big lie was that Obama would try to ban certain guns.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#532 Nov 26, 2012
RustyS wrote:
<quoted text>
Funny, the National RIFLE Association would work with gun makers. Interesting, their big lie was that Obama would try to ban certain guns.
We will see if it was a lie or not. Obama has four more years to prove the NRA correct. Look at Obama’s past voting on gun control bills.

Since: Jul 12

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#533 Nov 26, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet there's fatal accidents numerous times every day. There's even vehicular homicide. Imagine that.
Imagine that. People have been walking for some time now and they still fall down occassionally. You might even do it once in a while or come really close.

Since: Jul 12

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#534 Nov 26, 2012
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> Yes and no. My right to my freedom of religion, speech, ect. ect. don't end at my property line. I can't extend my rights to the point of infringing on anothers right like coming on YOUR property and setting up a church or carrying a gun on YOUR property. There is a provision to roads BEFORE they are built and that is the public must qualify to operate a car on it however the car itself is private property and my gun inside is not an infringement on other drivers. Could you imagine outlawing reading a news paper in public? Telling someone they can't believe in God in public? Could you imagine having to get a permit to speak outside of your own property? My rights are not ALLOWED they pre-exist the U.S. government or laws. The second amendment and others are not intended for me but as a firm stance that these are rights and the government has no power over them. The declaration of a right is telling the government "hands off".
So perhaps I was not that "wrong" when I talked about driving a car. If you have enough money or know the right people you might be able to drive a NASCAR Sprint Cup Car on a private track all by yourself. Or pay some money and you can do it on other tracks.

That is not quite the same as being in the Daytona 500.

On private property you can let your 9-year old target practice with his .22 unsupervised. Try dropping him off at the range or letting him hunt on public property unsupervised by an adult.

Since: Jul 12

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#535 Nov 26, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
Bullshit. Knowingly is not a cover word. I’ve sold many firearms privately. If I get a feeling I shouldn’t make the sale I won’t.
As a private individual I’m not required to keep records of who I’ve sold to. I do, but I’m not required.
So now you are "Hooked on a feeling."

And someone else with that same "feeling" could say "I never knew he was not eligable to purchase."

I will ask again: What are your legal requirements to sell a gun person-to-person?

Do you have to determine if they are eligable to purchase?

Do you have to confirm that they are who they say they are?

Do you have to write a "Bill of Sale?"

How long do you have to keep the records of the sale proving you did any of the above?

Since: Jul 12

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#536 Nov 26, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
Bullshit. Knowingly is not a cover word. I’ve sold many firearms privately. If I get a feeling I shouldn’t make the sale I won’t.
As a private individual I’m not required to keep records of who I’ve sold to. I do, but I’m not required.
OK, I got passed your first statement and your second answers a good part of my questions. The fact that you are not required to keep records indicates you really do not have to do anything other than hand over the gun as you accept the cash.

I kind of rest my case at this point.

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